Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Tomjas]

With that said.. can someone tell Maxey to be more selfish and jack up 20 shots a game?

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

[76ciology]

With that said.. can someone tell Maxey to be more selfish and jack up 20 shots a game?

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

[syntax]

With that said.. can someone tell Maxey to be more selfish and jack up 20 shots a game?

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

Mitchells growing pains as a rookie averaging 20.5pts? How did he ever get over it. It's hilarious watching you homers think Maxey could even sniff Mitchell's jockstrap.

[Tomjas]

With that said.. can someone tell Maxey to be more selfish and jack up 20 shots a game?

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

Simmons is 6’10, 240 & much quicker

Defence naturally collapses when someone that size runs at them at that pace

Urghh if only

Maxey is more late career Derrick Rose

[DCasey91]

With that said.. can someone tell Maxey to be more selfish and jack up 20 shots a game?

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

I think the book is already out on Maxey. He’s limited by his own flaws. Biggest red flag is the playmaking aspect which cuts off a portion of creating essentially.

It’s an easy read to defend. A slashing guard who isn’t a good shooter that can’t pass well and create for others is a player you won’t lose sleep over guarding. Means to say when the lane is cut off his skillset is actually quite small if everyone is here is honest about it.

If Sexton was pound for pound was the same size as Maxey he would still be a better prospect because he of what he showed from his College days. Numerous potential as a good scorer from day dot. And a better shooter to boot

I don’t take big looks at stat sheets, metrics etc but even so for guard play or a prospect in general there’s real indicators that needs to be up to scratch.

For me sell high on Maxey, Thybulle and Milton.

We don’t even have anywhere near enough offset to make it possible to prop them up because they need to be along with others.

[Lovetron Joe]

Appears BS will lose $360,000 per game and not be repaid. Shame.

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[DCasey91]

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Already out on 1/3 things for Maxey (no on playmaking)

Defense and Shooting has to become acceptable

2:40 is the textbook shot motion that should be replicated and drilled into him

Thybulle and Korkmaz hasn’t learnt their own deficiencies and flaws in their own shots (Korkmaz fluidity shorts/longs the motion, Thybulle has the Danny Green wonky wrist position). Don’t think they ever will imo

Hopefully someone at the Sixers knows to tell Maxey it’s the base up and down jump that’s pivotal to his outside shooting prowess (more skinny, 1:50 was okay, 2:40 was textbook).

See the differences? Therein lies the solution/problem.

He has three different shots for the outside, wide, skinny and split leg. That isn’t great news

Skinny is the way to go, every time it’s happened the shot comes off pure (more control, more power).

Westbrook still can’t shoot because he doesn’t know what’s wrong with it.

Also Joe will be the best shooter on our team outside of Curry. He knows exactly how it’s done to be an elite cold shooter.

[Tomjas]

Keep on telling you guys that Spurs are a natural trading partner unless Ben pulls his head out of his arse

We will need Murray’s defence and he’s levels above Maxey & Shake NOW (maybe not career)

Thad - quality and expiring

Primo

Unprotected picks

That’s the equivalent of many 1sts and cap flexibility

[DCasey91]

Keep on telling you guys that Spurs are a natural trading partner unless Ben pulls his head out of his arse

We will need Murray’s defence and he’s levels above Maxey & Shake NOW (maybe not career)

Thad - quality and expiring

Primo

Unprotected picks

That’s the equivalent of many 1sts and cap flexibility

I don’t rate Murray, it’ll just be Richardson again.

Rather White, Vassell, Primo and pick or White, Vassell and multiple picks.

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

I think the book is already out on Maxey. He’s limited by his own flaws. Biggest red flag is the playmaking aspect which cuts off a portion of creating essentially.

It’s an easy read to defend. A slashing guard who isn’t a good shooter that can’t pass well and create for others is a player you won’t lose sleep over guarding. Means to say when the lane is cut off his skillset is actually quite small if everyone is here is honest about it.

If Sexton was pound for pound was the same size as Maxey he would still be a better prospect because he of what he showed from his College days. Numerous potential as a good scorer from day dot. And a better shooter to boot

I don’t take big looks at stat sheets, metrics etc but even so for guard play or a prospect in general there’s real indicators that needs to be up to scratch.

For me sell high on Maxey, Thybulle and Milton.

We don’t even have anywhere near enough offset to make it possible to prop them up because they need to be along with others.

Yup, while watching the game all i can think of. This is exactly why we need Sexton.

We need a guy who’s so good on scoring that he wouldnt care about getting Niang the ball.

But hey, it’s just the first game of the preseason and we still have a long journey on Maxey this season.

Im just saying that he should be more aggressive in the future games

[Tomjas]

Keep on telling you guys that Spurs are a natural trading partner unless Ben pulls his head out of his arse

We will need Murray’s defence and he’s levels above Maxey & Shake NOW (maybe not career)

Thad - quality and expiring

Primo

Unprotected picks

That’s the equivalent of many 1sts and cap flexibility

I don’t rate Murray, it’ll just be Richardson again.

Rather White, Vassell, Primo and pick or White, Vassell and multiple picks.

Point is that they have the flexibility

I personally rate White as well

I can see this season going downhill very quickly unless the idiocy stops soon

Ideally, convince Ben to man up & let things play out

2nd best option is to rip off the plaster & move on

Worst case scenario is do neither of the above because a **** storm is coming

Joel is already frustrated

Just wait until the losses start piling up & the only response from Ben are cryptic photos of his shoes on Instagram

[Mik317]

we need more guards period.

Maxey is still green. Shake is in his head still. Seth showed more driving ability but is tiny...and thats about it lol. Joe should play more and Springer is greener than Maxey and may just suck lol.

Ben is still the best "guard" on the roster. Putting everything on Maxey and Shake is asking for trouble.

[Sixerscan]

Clearly Simmons had a lack of confidence issue with shooting in the play off series and the coaches couldn't address it in time. This type of thing is not uncommon in sport and is usually worked through with the coaches and a sports psychologists can really help also.

But look, there is no doubt that Philadelphia (Team & fans) broke up with Ben first and maybe that also played a big part in him losing confidence.

In any event Ben is not coming back and I think it's true he will be a better player somewhere else.

He demanded a trade then didn't show up to camp.

Org and fans told him to get better. He quit.

Please....give me a break, he "demanded" a trade when every man and his dog knew that Philadelphia wanted to trade him.

Teams "want" to trade players all the time. They can change their mind/if the value isn't there they don't trade them. The Sixers wanted to trade Iverson before 01 but couldn't find the right move and he convinced them that he would be better. The Lakers wanted to trade Kobe Bryant one summer. Celtics wanted to trade Pierce early in his career. Various teams offered players for Simmons all summer, you don't see any of those players sitting out.

Saying the Sixers thinking about trading him is "breaking up" with him is just some card game, you could just as easily say Ben "broke up" with Philadelphia by refusing to address his shooting over the years. Ben is the one saying he doesn't want to continue the relationship at this point.

[Tomjas]

He demanded a trade then didn't show up to camp.

Org and fans told him to get better. He quit.

Please....give me a break, he "demanded" a trade when every man and his dog knew that Philadelphia wanted to trade him.

Teams "want" to trade players all the time. They can change their mind/if the value isn't there they don't trade them. The Sixers wanted to trade Iverson before 01 but couldn't find the right move and he convinced them that he would be better. The Lakers wanted to trade Kobe Bryant one summer. Celtics wanted to trade Pierce early in his career. Various teams offered players for Simmons all summer, you don't see any of those players sitting out.

Saying the Sixers thinking about trading him is "breaking up" with him is just some card game, you could just as easily say Ben "broke up" with Philadelphia by refusing to address his shooting over the years. Ben is the one saying he doesn't want to continue the relationship at this point.

Everyone with a pulse knows he’s gone

Only question is what’s coming back & when

[Sixerscan]

Please....give me a break, he "demanded" a trade when every man and his dog knew that Philadelphia wanted to trade him.

Teams "want" to trade players all the time. They can change their mind/if the value isn't there they don't trade them. The Sixers wanted to trade Iverson before 01 but couldn't find the right move and he convinced them that he would be better. The Lakers wanted to trade Kobe Bryant one summer. Celtics wanted to trade Pierce early in his career. Various teams offered players for Simmons all summer, you don't see any of those players sitting out.

Saying the Sixers thinking about trading him is "breaking up" with him is just some card game, you could just as easily say Ben "broke up" with Philadelphia by refusing to address his shooting over the years. Ben is the one saying he doesn't want to continue the relationship at this point.

Everyone with a pulse knows he’s gone

Only question is what’s coming back & when

Agreed!

[Tomjas]

Teams "want" to trade players all the time. They can change their mind/if the value isn't there they don't trade them. The Sixers wanted to trade Iverson before 01 but couldn't find the right move and he convinced them that he would be better. The Lakers wanted to trade Kobe Bryant one summer. Celtics wanted to trade Pierce early in his career. Various teams offered players for Simmons all summer, you don't see any of those players sitting out.

Saying the Sixers thinking about trading him is "breaking up" with him is just some card game, you could just as easily say Ben "broke up" with Philadelphia by refusing to address his shooting over the years. Ben is the one saying he doesn't want to continue the relationship at this point.

Everyone with a pulse knows he’s gone

Only question is what’s coming back & when

Agreed!

Costing himself hundreds of Thousands PER DAY just to be a dick

I don’t get it

[Damienfan]

This is my fear

He’s not Simmons or a traditional pg so don’t have him try to replicate either or it will stunt his growth

We’re already seeing it with Shake

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

Mitchells growing pains as a rookie averaging 20.5pts? How did he ever get over it. It's hilarious watching you homers think Maxey could even sniff Mitchell's jockstrap.

Why are you here?

[DCasey91]

Bouknight looked good, so did Naw, Kira, Thomas, Murphy, Vassell, I like Simons and obv Garland. Maledon has PG aspects to him. I just think we are not trying to remedy the issue the right way.

If Ben is really the smoking bullet to get a player of worth it’s the wrong approach.

Side moves should be just as important to address the ongoing problem. Cooper doesn’t even have a real NBA contract atm.

On our squad his importance would be sky high.

There’s such a high influx of talent each year and a high enough turnover list that we shouldn’t be enamored with one dimensional roleplayers with low ceilings.

It should be Embiid is safe then everyone else is on the table.

[Bum Adebayo]

He was playing like Ben in yesterday’s preseason, kicking and passing up to shooters who are guarded.

He has to realize that you need to be “score first”. Once the defense respect you as a scorer, then you’d be able to collapse and it would be easier to kick it out.

Watch the tape. When he was driving the defense dont respect him. And the defenders would stay on the shooters making it hard for him to get the ball to the shooters.

He has to jack it up. Like I said in the other thread, he has to go through the growing pains like how Donovan Mitchell started his career early on. And there’s no better way to do it than the preseason.

Mitchells growing pains as a rookie averaging 20.5pts? How did he ever get over it. It's hilarious watching you homers think Maxey could even sniff Mitchell's jockstrap.

Why are you here?

Ben is still a Sixers player. the moment he is traded to another team, he will leave, except when we lose badly he will come here to laugh at us.

[Rastas]

Everyone with a pulse knows he’s gone

Only question is what’s coming back & when

Agreed!

Costing himself hundreds of Thousands PER DAY just to be a dick

I don’t get it

He will be back in November if they don't get a deal done.
No way he is pissing off that much money.
And no idea what version of Ben returns , but I expect a disrupting type.
This does not feel like business - it feel's like War.