College/Draft Thread Part 5 - NCAA Tournament Edition - Knicks #1 Baby!!!

[3toheadmelo]

someone can’t do basic math

Someone is still a bad poster. Did you send in that name change request in to Howard yet strawman?

[Tron Carter]

someone can’t do basic math

Someone is still a bad poster. Did you send in that name change request in to Howard yet strawman?

I will after you change your avy

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[3toheadmelo]

someone can’t do basic math

Someone is still a bad poster. Did you send in that name change request in to Howard yet strawman?

I will after you change your avy

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At least it isn’t as bad as rocking a Chris smith sig

[Capn'O]

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.

There's a 48% chance we get pick 5. That's pretty massive and a lot of guys are in play there. Maybe 10 guys could be argued for that spot.

I don’t see the Knicks taking Garland at #5 when he is being mocked in a lower range. Or keeping him if Kyrie is coming either. That’s all I said.

The only PG I possibly see the Knicks taking is Ja because of his similarities with Fox and how Perry likes those type of pg’s. He even said just said how they are going to draft similar players to what they drafted last year. Knox, Mitch, Trier are all athletic and Garland does not fit that bill. And even with all of that, I think it is still a low chance Ja is a Knick because of the whole Kyrie thing and I am not sure the Knicks are going to give up on DSJ so early. That is why I haven’t pushed the Ja to Knicks idea but i am open to it

He isn't at all though. Look at the individual rankings on Hoopshype's composite:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/03/19/nba-mock-draft-big-board-deandre-hunter-cameron-johnson-jordan-nwora/

Or RGM's draft board:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1818040

Many have him in the top 10. Some in the top 5. If he blows up in the combine and workouts, he's absolutely in play. He's one guy where because of his limited showcasing so far can really rise or fall. Right now he's down because the tourney is happening and he wasn't in it.

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Also, this is funny because I spent the first part of the season trying to talk KT down from picking him over Ja.

Which, btw, I still would. Hi KT.

[Tron Carter]

Someone is still a bad poster. Did you send in that name change request in to Howard yet strawman?

I will after you change your avy

Spoiler:

At least it isn’t as bad as rocking a Chris smith sig

[blueNorange]

i know why 3tohead doesn't like darius garland, youtube his name ... he doesn't have many highlight reels.

[HEZI]

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.

My dude, this is a college thread, we talk about college players all the time. You wasted key strokes talking about Ayton and Bagley and Doncic and Trae even after the lotto and knowing damn well the Knicks weren't gonna be in position to draft them. Don't act like people can't discuss college ball on here and talk about prospects without it having a direct link to the Knicks. You flooded us with Troy Brown pics on here last year, acting like he was the next coming or something, talk about unrealistic.

You can’t be serious. Literally all these arguments are about Garland being a KNICK. If you guys were talking about him in general then this wouldn’t even be a convo right now.

Did I talk about Ayton bagley Doncic being Knicks after the lottery? No.

Did I talk about Troy Brown being a Knick in April of last year? No.

I wasn’t saying no delusional schit. I talked about Sexton, Miles, Mikal, Knox bring potential Knicks because of where we were projected to pick.


Look y’all the ones mad cause I said Garland isn’t gonna be a Knick. Especially if Kyrie is coming. So idgaf at the end of the day

You are the only one who is mad tho. I know that because when you get all emotional you start making bets

But if the topic of discussion is bpa after Zion then that's what it is so when people say draft bpa then we get into bpa discussion and it goes to the Knicks. So are we drafting bpa or not? Or are we building around KD and Kyrie? That's still open for discussion

[3toheadmelo]

There's a 48% chance we get pick 5. That's pretty massive and a lot of guys are in play there. Maybe 10 guys could be argued for that spot.

I don’t see the Knicks taking Garland at #5 when he is being mocked in a lower range. Or keeping him if Kyrie is coming either. That’s all I said.

The only PG I possibly see the Knicks taking is Ja because of his similarities with Fox and how Perry likes those type of pg’s. He even said just said how they are going to draft similar players to what they drafted last year. Knox, Mitch, Trier are all athletic and Garland does not fit that bill. And even with all of that, I think it is still a low chance Ja is a Knick because of the whole Kyrie thing and I am not sure the Knicks are going to give up on DSJ so early. That is why I haven’t pushed the Ja to Knicks idea but i am open to it

He isn't at all though. Look at the individual rankings on Hoopshype's composite:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/03/19/nba-mock-draft-big-board-deandre-hunter-cameron-johnson-jordan-nwora/

Or RGM's draft board:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1818040

Many have him in the top 10. Some in the top 5. If he blows up in the combine and workouts, he's absolutely in play. He's one guy where because of his limited showcasing so far can really rise or fall. Right now he's down because the tourney is happening and he wasn't in it.

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Also, this is funny because I spent the first part of the season trying to talk KT down from picking him over Ja.

Those are personal big boards from realgm posters lol. I’m talking about recent mock drafts from valid sports analysts. I’ve seen plenty of him in the 6-10 range.

I still don’t see the Knicks picking him tho because of what Perry just said. He said he wants to replicate the type of players we have. If we are picking at #5, I can definitely see us taking Cam over Garland. Given the fact we have someone that’s similar to him (Knox). But hey if we pick Garland and decide to keep him, I’ll root for him.

[3toheadmelo]

My dude, this is a college thread, we talk about college players all the time. You wasted key strokes talking about Ayton and Bagley and Doncic and Trae even after the lotto and knowing damn well the Knicks weren't gonna be in position to draft them. Don't act like people can't discuss college ball on here and talk about prospects without it having a direct link to the Knicks. You flooded us with Troy Brown pics on here last year, acting like he was the next coming or something, talk about unrealistic.

You can’t be serious. Literally all these arguments are about Garland being a KNICK. If you guys were talking about him in general then this wouldn’t even be a convo right now.

Did I talk about Ayton bagley Doncic being Knicks after the lottery? No.

Did I talk about Troy Brown being a Knick in April of last year? No.

I wasn’t saying no delusional schit. I talked about Sexton, Miles, Mikal, Knox bring potential Knicks because of where we were projected to pick.


Look y’all the ones mad cause I said Garland isn’t gonna be a Knick. Especially if Kyrie is coming. So idgaf at the end of the day

You are the only one who is mad tho. I know that because when you get all emotional you start making bets

But if the topic of discussion is bpa after Zion then that's what it is so when people say draft bpa then we get into bpa discussion and it goes to the Knicks. So are we drafting bpa or not? Or are we building around KD and Kyrie? That's still open for discussion

I’m not mad bro. Trust me You my guy at the end of the day so it’s nothing personal.

Like I told Jeff van gully, if the Knicks think Garland is the BPA then by all means go for it. We have to go BPA, which is why I’m also open to JA. I don’t think Garland will be the BPA for us which is why there is a misconnect between us.

The thing is tho if we pick a PG and Kyrie decides to come, I think we will trade Ja or Garland along with DSJ and possibly Frank for win now pieces at different positions. I just find it hard to see us taking Garland and keeping him as a 6th man. That’s pretty much it. Nothing more to it

[blueNorange]

this is all pointless, we're getting the #1 so shut up everyone.

[3toheadmelo]

i know why 3tohead doesn't like darius garland, youtube his name ... he doesn't have many highlight reels.

I’ve actually said I don’t think Garland is a bad prospect. He just has flaws that imo doesn’t make him a top 5 pick. Not sold on his court vision and defense. If we are trading down for him, then that’s a different story

[RHODEY]

You can’t be serious. Literally all these arguments are about Garland being a KNICK. If you guys were talking about him in general then this wouldn’t even be a convo right now.

Did I talk about Ayton bagley Doncic being Knicks after the lottery? No.

Did I talk about Troy Brown being a Knick in April of last year? No.

I wasn’t saying no delusional schit. I talked about Sexton, Miles, Mikal, Knox bring potential Knicks because of where we were projected to pick.


Look y’all the ones mad cause I said Garland isn’t gonna be a Knick. Especially if Kyrie is coming. So idgaf at the end of the day

You are the only one who is mad tho. I know that because when you get all emotional you start making bets

But if the topic of discussion is bpa after Zion then that's what it is so when people say draft bpa then we get into bpa discussion and it goes to the Knicks. So are we drafting bpa or not? Or are we building around KD and Kyrie? That's still open for discussion

I’m not mad bro. Trust me You my guy at the end of the day so it’s nothing personal.

Like I told Jeff van gully, if the Knicks think Garland is the BPA then by all means go for it. We have to go BPA, which is why I’m also open to JA. I don’t think Garland will be the BPA for us which is why there is a misconnect between us.

The thing is tho if we pick a PG and Kyrie decides to come, I think we will trade Ja or Garland along with DSJ and possibly Frank for win now pieces at different positions. I just find it hard to see us taking Garland and keeping him as a 6th man. That’s pretty much it. Nothing more to it

So basically a win-win for us. He shows out during works outs we pick him and keep him to be part of a monster back court or he's great trade bait for someone like Beal. Either way Knicks gon' be ...

[3toheadmelo]

I will after you change your avy

Spoiler:

At least it isn’t as bad as rocking a Chris smith sig

That’s my point. The joke is trash. Do better

[2010]

There is no swayed now. I was saying if no Zion give me Garland back when he was still healthy.

II’d like to check receipts on that. Care to back that up with a quote?

A full year of seeing the other prospects only made it more clear that he's still worthy of it. He aint in a tier of his own, Ja and RJ and Culver are all options but he's certainly in that mix. None of those guys have created separation to be in separate tiers from him.

You still refusing to directly answer the series of Burke questions I asked you though

You can't handle it then cool, we gonna come back to this next year though and see what's what

I’m cool with revisiting this. You know I’m a stand up dude and willing to stand by my words. Definitely down to check receipts on this in the future.

But remember, I haven’t spoken in certainties. If anything I have spoken in uncertainties. I have clearly stated we don’t know either way. Your stance is far more radical. You have pegged him as Lillard and ignored and/or scoffed at all possibilities of him fitting the Burke archetype.

So if anything, you have way less wiggle room than I once we do revisit this.

So you just talking trash based on uncertainties and now want to use that as a way to cover tracks. Your escape route is all planned out I see

Nah, I don't talk "trash", I speak facts in my evaluations. You speak in opinions and try to misrepresent them as facts. That's the difference. You speak in certainties where things are uncertain. I acknowledge the variables where they exist. So why should I allow someone to try to paint my words in a different light than I originally presented them, in the future? Only a dummy would allow that.

This whole topic is based on you taking a radical stance that Garland is a #2 pick candidate. Then when dudes express their justified doubts about that you want to talk about revisiting things. You stand on your words and I'll stand on mines. Your foundation is shakier so now you mentioning "planned escape routes". Nah, I am just fastidious in the words I choose. Clearly you aren't. Don't knock me for being prepared. Even before we engaged in this debate I choose my words wisely. It's just the smart thing to do.

[Tron Carter]

At least it isn’t as bad as rocking a Chris smith sig

That’s my point. The joke is trash. Do better

thought we could relate to repping knicks who washed out in the league :/

[3toheadmelo]

You are the only one who is mad tho. I know that because when you get all emotional you start making bets

But if the topic of discussion is bpa after Zion then that's what it is so when people say draft bpa then we get into bpa discussion and it goes to the Knicks. So are we drafting bpa or not? Or are we building around KD and Kyrie? That's still open for discussion

I’m not mad bro. Trust me You my guy at the end of the day so it’s nothing personal.

Like I told Jeff van gully, if the Knicks think Garland is the BPA then by all means go for it. We have to go BPA, which is why I’m also open to JA. I don’t think Garland will be the BPA for us which is why there is a misconnect between us.

The thing is tho if we pick a PG and Kyrie decides to come, I think we will trade Ja or Garland along with DSJ and possibly Frank for win now pieces at different positions. I just find it hard to see us taking Garland and keeping him as a 6th man. That’s pretty much it. Nothing more to it

So basically a win-win for us. He shows out during works outs we pick him and keep him to be part of a monster back court or he's great trade bait for someone like Beal. Either way Knicks gon' be ...

I wish it was as easy like that. This draft is very tricky, it could go south for us easily. Hoping for the best

[2010]

Garland is the flavor of the week just like how Brandon Clarke was last week. Next week we gonna hear dudes calling for Deandre Hunter to be drafted at #2

no. those other guys have nothing in common with garland. people like him because he has the best skills out of anyone in the top 5 to create for himself off the dribble. in the nba, that's often what separates guys who become stars from guys who can't. his handle and his ability to use hesitation, create space and pull up is above everyone else.

Hmmm, sounds like you just described...

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Treyverson...

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[3toheadmelo]

That’s my point. The joke is trash. Do better

thought we could relate to repping knicks who washed out in the league :/

Nah I’m repping a HOFer. Idk wtf you repping

[HarthorneWingo]

Garland is the flavor of the week just like how Brandon Clarke was last week. Next week we gonna hear dudes calling for Deandre Hunter to be drafted at #2

no. those other guys have nothing in common with garland. people like him because he has the best skills out of anyone in the top 5 to create for himself off the dribble. in the nba, that's often what separates guys who become stars from guys who can't. his handle and his ability to use hesitation, create space and pull up is above everyone else.

Hmmm, sounds like you just described...

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Treyverson...

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True. That's why I like tall PGs. These midgets get eaten up on PNRs

[RHODEY]

I’m not mad bro. Trust me You my guy at the end of the day so it’s nothing personal.

Like I told Jeff van gully, if the Knicks think Garland is the BPA then by all means go for it. We have to go BPA, which is why I’m also open to JA. I don’t think Garland will be the BPA for us which is why there is a misconnect between us.

The thing is tho if we pick a PG and Kyrie decides to come, I think we will trade Ja or Garland along with DSJ and possibly Frank for win now pieces at different positions. I just find it hard to see us taking Garland and keeping him as a 6th man. That’s pretty much it. Nothing more to it

So basically a win-win for us. He shows out during works outs we pick him and keep him to be part of a monster back court or he's great trade bait for someone like Beal. Either way Knicks gon' be ...

I wish it was as easy like that. This draft is very tricky, it could go south for us easily. Hoping for the best

Well PIMPIN aint easy