Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[Skybox]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

God I hope not

It would probably be ideal for development as a continuation of what we’re already doing. Harris plays when available or when the team needs stability, otherwise he’s cool in a reduced role while we get Black, Jett and Houstan more minutes. Mills would be Cole insurance in an Ingles-like capacity.

I'd have no problem with Gary in a reduced role and a reduced salary. He's solid and seems to accept whatever role he's given. I'd prefer Jett or Caleb to step forward, since they're under contract anyway but, in a vacuum, Gary's not a problem...him being the best guy available to start is the problem.

[Knightro]

Bill Simmons floated out the idea of 3/100 for Monk and the Magic.

That's a little steep, but on a per year basis it is basically the equivalent of Fultz, Gary and Chuma.

[RookieStar]

Bill Simmons floated out the idea of 3/100 for Monk and the Magic.

That's a little steep, but on a per year basis it is basically the equivalent of Fultz, Gary and Chuma.

He also prefers Monk over the other choices like Grayson?

[Bensational]

God I hope not

It would probably be ideal for development as a continuation of what we’re already doing. Harris plays when available or when the team needs stability, otherwise he’s cool in a reduced role while we get Black, Jett and Houstan more minutes. Mills would be Cole insurance in an Ingles-like capacity.

I'd have no problem with Gary in a reduced role and a reduced salary. He's solid and seems to accept whatever role he's given. I'd prefer Jett or Caleb to step forward, since they're under contract anyway but, in a vacuum, Gary's not a problem...him being the best guy available to start is the problem.

Or… we don’t have a problem? Suggs having room to emerge as our #3 guy hasn’t been a problem. Black getting the chance to start hasn’t been a problem. Being the 3rd best team in the league post ASB isn’t a problem. Being a top 10 3pt shooting team post ASB hasn’t been a problem. Going from a bottom 6 team to fighting for HCA hasn’t been a problem.

I’m not trying to be snarky here, just pointing out that our problems haven’t been that problematic to date. That’s not also a commitment to the team forever either - Gary has already been part of a trade for a championship defining player in AG, so it could happen again in a couple of seasons.

[eyriq]

Bill Simmons floated out the idea of 3/100 for Monk and the Magic.

That's a little steep, but on a per year basis it is basically the equivalent of Fultz, Gary and Chuma.

Monk is a great fit, we thrive when a microwave scorer goes off

[AaronB]

I just feel like people are underestimating how good the Magic defense has been and how they have been able the hide the defense of their powers defenders to take advantage of their positive attributes.

It is possible to hide limited-ability defenders (like Van Vleet, for example, although he is a battler).

I don't think that it is possible to hide a guy that does not want to defend.

This presents a systemic issue that can easily move to the locker room.

Simons has the ability to defend; he does not have the "want to."

FVV has always been recognized as a good defender despite "looking" like a bad one. This narrative has really gained steam. Simons' scoring is apparently "empty stats on a bad team" but his defensive metrics on the same tanking vessel are gospel. He'd be fine here- he's fast and he's long and he'd feed off the vibe here. Just digging your heels in on the Simons' blemish to a ridiculous degree.

Monk's good enough. Cole's good enough. GTJ's good enough. Some want Kennard ...But Simons would bring down the whole thing

Unfortunately, your reading has never improved. Please, in the future, at least take the time to read what I actually write when you respond.

I never said FVV was a bad defender, I said he has limited ability (athletically) but overcomes it with sheer determination. I really admire his game, with the exception of when he starts playing "me ball".

Frankly, if the rumors about Simons are true, I don't want him anywhere near the young guys on this team. I would rather not take the chance either.

So, in addition to your near-daily stupid trades, you have now taken to stupid emojis.

It makes sense, I guess.

[CocoaFan]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[basketballRob]

Monk is a microwave bench scorer, not a $30m per year player.

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[RichCollab]

Bill Simmons floated out the idea of 3/100 for Monk and the Magic.

That's a little steep, but on a per year basis it is basically the equivalent of Fultz, Gary and Chuma.

That’s a hard pill to swallow.

I can get to 4/92. How much did Brunson get leaving Mavs?

[basketballRob]

Houstan is starting.

I've noticed Josh Robbins posting Magic stuff the last couple of days.

Oops, wrong thread.

Read on Twitter

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[RichCollab]

Monk is a microwave bench scorer, not a $30m per year player.

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5.3 assists this year for Monk in 26 minutes. He closes almost all games. He isn’t worth Brunson money but he is more than just a Microwave scorer. Also gets to the line 3 times a game.

[Bensational]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

[RookieStar]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

Not now... im expecting it to manifest during the post season where our weaknesses gets exposed

[CocoaFan]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

Those results are coming from Harris and Ingles. We could use 2 better players.

[CocoaFan]

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

Those results are coming from Harris and Ingles. We could use 2 better players.

Aren't

[Bensational]

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

Those results are coming from Harris and Ingles. We could use 2 better players.

I think the hope would be that Houstan or Jett become one or both of those guys for us. If they aren’t on track for that, then we still have cap space in 2025 to fill gaps that internal growth hasn’t been able to fill.

[Skybox]

It is possible to hide limited-ability defenders (like Van Vleet, for example, although he is a battler).

I don't think that it is possible to hide a guy that does not want to defend.

This presents a systemic issue that can easily move to the locker room.

Simons has the ability to defend; he does not have the "want to."

FVV has always been recognized as a good defender despite "looking" like a bad one. This narrative has really gained steam. Simons' scoring is apparently "empty stats on a bad team" but his defensive metrics on the same tanking vessel are gospel. He'd be fine here- he's fast and he's long and he'd feed off the vibe here. Just digging your heels in on the Simons' blemish to a ridiculous degree.

Monk's good enough. Cole's good enough. GTJ's good enough. Some want Kennard ...But Simons would bring down the whole thing

Unfortunately, your reading has never improved. Please, in the future, at least take the time to read what I actually write when you respond.

I never said FVV was a bad defender, I said he has limited ability (athletically) but overcomes it with sheer determination. I really admire his game, with the exception of when he starts playing "me ball".

Frankly, if the rumors about Simons are true, I don't want him anywhere near the young guys on this team. I would rather not take the chance either.

So, in addition to your near-daily stupid trades, you have now taken to stupid emojis.

It makes sense, I guess.

I guess you tricked me with your wordsmithing brilliance…I assumed you weren’t complimenting FVV when you suggested you can HIDE him maybe read your own

[Skybox]

It would probably be ideal for development as a continuation of what we’re already doing. Harris plays when available or when the team needs stability, otherwise he’s cool in a reduced role while we get Black, Jett and Houstan more minutes. Mills would be Cole insurance in an Ingles-like capacity.

I'd have no problem with Gary in a reduced role and a reduced salary. He's solid and seems to accept whatever role he's given. I'd prefer Jett or Caleb to step forward, since they're under contract anyway but, in a vacuum, Gary's not a problem...him being the best guy available to start is the problem.

Or… we don’t have a problem? Suggs having room to emerge as our #3 guy hasn’t been a problem. Black getting the chance to start hasn’t been a problem. Being the 3rd best team in the league post ASB isn’t a problem. Being a top 10 3pt shooting team post ASB hasn’t been a problem. Going from a bottom 6 team to fighting for HCA hasn’t been a problem.

I’m not trying to be snarky here, just pointing out that our problems haven’t been that problematic to date. That’s not also a commitment to the team forever either - Gary has already been part of a trade for a championship defining player in AG, so it could happen again in a couple of seasons.

You’re right- everything is great. Measure for rings.

[jibba jones]

I still like Monk even after the 0-11

[eyriq]

I think Gary Harris is earning himself a return right now. 49% from 3 Post ASB, but only on 3.8 attempts per game.

He knows the team, is happy sharing minutes with young guys, and he’s successfully filling a need right now.

Fultz goes, Harris and Ingles are brought back and maybe someone like Patty Mills gets a look in as a 3rd string guard.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Eh. I don’t see too many people throwing up from the results right now.

Harris is injury prone and ineffective