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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1841 » by LAL1947 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:48 am

What would it take to get Jerami Grant from Detroit? I'm seeing people say in the Trades section that it would only cost 1 FRP? The problem I'm seeing is in matching salary... as Dallas would have to include Powell, which will add to the price that needs to be paid to Detroit.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1842 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58 am

LAL1947 wrote:What would it take to get Jerami Grant from Detroit? I'm seeing people say in the Trades section that it would only cost 1 FRP? The problem I'm seeing is in matching salary... as Dallas would have to include Powell, which will add to the price that needs to be paid to Detroit.


I'd send Powell, Green, Terry, 1st and 2 2nds, and I'd eat Josh Jackson into TPE.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1843 » by Apz » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:32 am

Guess he costs too much. Not sure i want a good but still a roleplayer that want to be the star on this team if it costs us picks that might be needed in a future trade
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1844 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:16 am

KhalilS wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:What would it take to get Jerami Grant from Detroit? I'm seeing people say in the Trades section that it would only cost 1 FRP? The problem I'm seeing is in matching salary... as Dallas would have to include Powell, which will add to the price that needs to be paid to Detroit.


I'd send Powell, Green, Terry, 1st and 2 2nds, and I'd eat Josh Jackson into TPE.


That's a homerun!!

Grant+JJ for basically nothing.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1845 » by LAL1947 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:25 am

KhalilS wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:What would it take to get Jerami Grant from Detroit? I'm seeing people say in the Trades section that it would only cost 1 FRP? The problem I'm seeing is in matching salary... as Dallas would have to include Powell, which will add to the price that needs to be paid to Detroit.


I'd send Powell, Green, Terry, 1st and 2 2nds, and I'd eat Josh Jackson into TPE.

I'd do that... not sure if Detroit does, but we won't know unless the FO tries. :D

TBH, if Detroit asked to include Brunson instead of Terry and the Mavs were sure of getting Dragic on a buy-out, I'd do that too. Probably would do that even if not sure of getting Dragic since the Mavs can make do with Ntilikina/Burke temporarily.

Luka, Dragic, Ntilikina
THJ, Bullock, Brown
DFS, Jackson, Omoruyi
Jerami, Kleber, Hunt
Porzingis, WCS, Boban

That looks pretty darn good. :nod:
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1846 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:30 am

I think JJ is pretty much negative value at this point, he hasn't shown anything in his years in the league, I added taking him as a sweetner.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1847 » by Mike lorenzo » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:48 pm

Spurs cut Samanic..surprised I liked him..would you like us to catch him? Can we give him a 2-way JaQouri contract?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1848 » by Apz » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:54 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:Spurs cut Samanic..surprised I liked him..would you like us to catch him? Can we give him a 2-way JaQouri contract?


Well. If we cut or trade terry for a 2nd, then change eugenes contract to a real one, it would open up a 2 way contract. Honestly, I wouldnt mind to grab him as another pf. But atm im not even sure how many we got for our 15 roster spots. Is it 16 with or without frank atm? If it is without him, buyout burke and and get rid of twrry, give those spots to eugene and frank, and give samanic eugenes 2way contract
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1849 » by LAL1947 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:19 pm

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Mike lorenzo wrote:Spurs cut Samanic..surprised I liked him..would you like us to catch him? Can we give him a 2-way JaQouri contract?


Well. If we cut or trade terry for a 2nd, then change eugenes contract to a real one, it would open up a 2 way contract. Honestly, I wouldnt mind to grab him as another pf. But atm im not even sure how many we got for our 15 roster spots. Is it 16 with or without frank atm? If it is without him, buyout burke and and get rid of twrry, give those spots to eugene and frank, and give samanic eugenes 2way contract

I guess I wouldn't mind this either... since nothing else seems to be on the FO's radar... with the hope that a little J Kidd tough love can turn him into a useful player or a useful trade piece.

There's 20 peeps right now btw... so I'm not sure if it's possible or worthwhile to consider adding him though.

PG: Luka, Brunson, Burke, Terry
SG: THJ, Sterling, Ntilikina
SF: DFS, Bullock, Green
PF: Porzingis, Kleber
CE: Powell, WCS, Boban, Moses

2-way: McLaughlin, Omoruyi
Exhibit: Feron Hunt, Carlik Jones

If push came to shove, I think I'd actually prefer keeping Feron Hunt around to adding Luka Samanic. Samanic has better handles/shooting and probably fits better in theory with Omoruyi as the 3rd string forwards... but I like Hunt's athleticism, defensive ability and effort more.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1850 » by Mike lorenzo » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:29 pm

LAL1947 wrote:
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Mike lorenzo wrote:Spurs cut Samanic..surprised I liked him..would you like us to catch him? Can we give him a 2-way JaQouri contract?


Well. If we cut or trade terry for a 2nd, then change eugenes contract to a real one, it would open up a 2 way contract. Honestly, I wouldnt mind to grab him as another pf. But atm im not even sure how many we got for our 15 roster spots. Is it 16 with or without frank atm? If it is without him, buyout burke and and get rid of twrry, give those spots to eugene and frank, and give samanic eugenes 2way contract

I guess I wouldn't mind this either... since nothing else seems to be on the FO's radar... with the hope that a little J Kidd tough love can turn him into a useful player or a useful trade piece.

There's 20 peeps right now btw... so I'm not sure if it's possible or worthwhile to consider adding him though.

PG: Luka, Brunson, Burke, Terry
SG: THJ, Sterling, Ntilikina
SF: DFS, Bullock, Green
PF: Porzingis, Kleber
CE: Powell, WCS, Boban, Moses

2-way: McLaughlin, Omoruyi
Exhibit: Feron Hunt, Carlik Jones

Wouldn't a team like Hornets want Burke ..? as a 3-rope guard .. I think he only has Ball / Ish / Rozier .. 2 start .. Something like Burke for Iwundu or Martin (which would be quickly cut) .. We free up one place and save the next one ... even send a 2 if necessary
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1851 » by Mike lorenzo » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:43 pm

I've been reading some notes on the Internet (on Knicks sites) and they talk about how Leon Rose seems to have a pretty strong bond with the Brunson family and I would love that Jalen was part of them ... They even proposed some commercial scenarios ... They seemed very interesting ... I like Jalen a lot, but I think that in Dallas it will be "wasted" .. it will only be a backup .. The offer was ...

Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..
taking into account, that Jalen expires and that it is a NY site ... not bad.
We would quickly have to go out in search of a replacement ... maybe not as good as Brunson (, but there are many backup guards that may be available) ..
Recovering our selection would give us a lot of flexibility and would put us in a very good commercial situation ...

I would just like to know what you think?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1852 » by LAL1947 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:45 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..

I would just like to know what you think?

If it's true, the Mavs should accept quickly. Since NY wants the trade too... it's win-win for both. The Mavs really need trade assets. This returns a FRP, adds 2 SRPs and a project... a very good return for Brunson. If Dallas can also get Jericho Sims through this trade instead of Knox or one of the 2nds (send them Moses in return if needed), that would be great!
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1853 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:05 pm

Only way I'd consider this trade is if Dragic comes, Brunson is too valuable, also at this point, I'd keep Burke and cut Terry, unless the FO knows something we don't, cut your losses, Burke sucks at the PG, but he's available there.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1854 » by Mike lorenzo » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:49 pm

LAL1947 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..

I would just like to know what you think?

If it's true, the Mavs should accept quickly. Since NY wants the trade too... it's win-win for both. The Mavs really need trade assets. This returns a FRP, adds 2 SRPs and a project... a very good return for Brunson. If Dallas can also get Jericho Sims through this trade instead of Knox or one of the 2nds (send them Moses in return if needed), that would be great!
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1855 » by Maverick41 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:15 pm

KhalilS wrote:Only way I'd consider this trade is if Dragic comes, Brunson is too valuable, also at this point, I'd keep Burke and cut Terry, unless the FO knows something we don't, cut your losses, Burke sucks at the PG, but he's available there.

Agreed. I love the idea of getting our FRP back for an expiring Brunson but if we don't somehow get another playmaker to replace him, there would be a huge issue for shot creation when Luka goes out.

My preference would be to trade Brunson for a FRP (like the NY trade previously posted) and re-route it with Green, Moses and maybe another FRP for someone like Sexton. I think Sexton would thrive with a big PG like Luka where his primary duties will be to score and also allow him to defend his natural position.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1856 » by LAL1947 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:21 pm

KhalilS wrote:Only way I'd consider this trade is if Dragic comes, Brunson is too valuable, also at this point, I'd keep Burke and cut Terry, unless the FO knows something we don't, cut your losses, Burke sucks at the PG, but he's available there.

Agreed about keeping Burke and cutting Terry. Brunson is expendable to me though, since the team has Ntilikina, Burke and McLaughlin... plus a potential Dragic buy-out to look forward to. Not only is he expiring and will need to be extended... but his size is a negative considering the level of defense from others on the team (Luka, THJ, Porzingis). On a team like NY, he can be covered better on defense. If a good offer like this is actually on the table and not just some rumor, I wouldn't let it slip by hesitating.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1857 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:27 am

LAL1947 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..

I would just like to know what you think?

If it's true, the Mavs should accept quickly. Since NY wants the trade too... it's win-win for both. The Mavs really need trade assets. This returns a FRP, adds 2 SRPs and a project... a very good return for Brunson. If Dallas can also get Jericho Sims through this trade instead of Knox or one of the 2nds (send them Moses in return if needed), that would be great!


Agree.

I like that package for Brunson, with Rick gone i hope we could trade him without problems.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1858 » by daoneandonly » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:47 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..

I would just like to know what you think?

If it's true, the Mavs should accept quickly. Since NY wants the trade too... it's win-win for both. The Mavs really need trade assets. This returns a FRP, adds 2 SRPs and a project... a very good return for Brunson. If Dallas can also get Jericho Sims through this trade instead of Knox or one of the 2nds (send them Moses in return if needed), that would be great!


Agree.

I like that package for Brunson, with Rick gone i hope we could trade him without problems.


Yea getting our first back opens up a great deal, and who knows if Kidd can unlock something in Knox. I'd even do it without the 2nds, or at least one of the seconds. But NY now has Kemba, Quickley, and Rose, so dont think they're interested
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1859 » by jpengland » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:45 pm

Brunsons regular season stats were outstanding last year. Incredible impact and advanced stats. He's a high character guy too

Yes he's getting paid. But I certainly wouldn't give him up for a likely 20-24 pick 2 years from now.

Only way Brunson gets moved is to bring back a borderline starter at the 3 or 4.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1860 » by jpengland » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:46 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Dallas 23 + 2 seconds + Knox for Brunson ..

I would just like to know what you think?

If it's true, the Mavs should accept quickly. Since NY wants the trade too... it's win-win for both. The Mavs really need trade assets. This returns a FRP, adds 2 SRPs and a project... a very good return for Brunson. If Dallas can also get Jericho Sims through this trade instead of Knox or one of the 2nds (send them Moses in return if needed), that would be great!


Agree.

I like that package for Brunson, with Rick gone i hope we could trade him without problems.


Hi Luka, yeah we are going to trade one of your best teammates for a guy who should be in the G League and a likely 20ish pick two years from now.

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