RaptorLakerJay wrote:How about FVV for Lowry + Martin. Allows more ball movement, and a solid role player off the bench.
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RaptorLakerJay wrote:How about FVV for Lowry + Martin. Allows more ball movement, and a solid role player off the bench.
tdotrep2 wrote:herb and dyson for og would be fantastic imo
navyblue wrote:I don't see magic as buyers (fringe sellers Harris, Bamba, Ross). They are probably just being used by other teams to drive up price.
Gavin_TDThree wrote:navyblue wrote:I don't see magic as buyers (fringe sellers Harris, Bamba, Ross). They are probably just being used by other teams to drive up price.
I tend to agree. The magic wanting to be buyers seems odd considering where they are in their rebuild.
The only logic I could see is that they want to surround their young guys with real veteran leadership that won't impact the win columns drastically. Obviously FVV gets them a few more wins but I don't see him turning them into a playoff team on his own. Good leadership for their young players
RaptorLakerJay wrote:FVV + Flynn for Monte Morris + Will Barton + Kispert + Gafford.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Gavin_TDThree wrote:navyblue wrote:I don't see magic as buyers (fringe sellers Harris, Bamba, Ross). They are probably just being used by other teams to drive up price.
I tend to agree. The magic wanting to be buyers seems odd considering where they are in their rebuild.
The only logic I could see is that they want to surround their young guys with real veteran leadership that won't impact the win columns drastically. Obviously FVV gets them a few more wins but I don't see him turning them into a playoff team on his own. Good leadership for their young players
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Zeno wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Gavin_TDThree wrote:
I tend to agree. The magic wanting to be buyers seems odd considering where they are in their rebuild.
The only logic I could see is that they want to surround their young guys with real veteran leadership that won't impact the win columns drastically. Obviously FVV gets them a few more wins but I don't see him turning them into a playoff team on his own. Good leadership for their young players
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Magic have contract structures the Raps tend to like in Bamba and Harris so if they really don't want Fred getting the Chicago pick and a flyer on a young player might be really appealing. Even if you don't like Bamba or Harris as players, their non-guaranteed contracts for next year preserve Fred's salary slot.
Fred, Khem, Juancho for Bamba, Harris, Suggs and Chicago's 1st. I'd probably do.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Zeno wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Magic have contract structures the Raps tend to like in Bamba and Harris so if they really don't want Fred getting the Chicago pick and a flyer on a young player might be really appealing. Even if you don't like Bamba or Harris as players, their non-guaranteed contracts for next year preserve Fred's salary slot.
Fred, Khem, Juancho for Bamba, Harris, Suggs and Chicago's 1st. I'd probably do.
I just don't buy that they'd cough up the Chicago lotto pick for a sneak preview at Fred when they can sign him outright.
Zeno wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Gavin_TDThree wrote:
I tend to agree. The magic wanting to be buyers seems odd considering where they are in their rebuild.
The only logic I could see is that they want to surround their young guys with real veteran leadership that won't impact the win columns drastically. Obviously FVV gets them a few more wins but I don't see him turning them into a playoff team on his own. Good leadership for their young players
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Magic have contract structures the Raps tend to like in Bamba and Harris so if they really don't want Fred getting the Chicago pick and a flyer on a young player might be really appealing. Even if you don't like Bamba or Harris as players, their non-guaranteed contracts for next year preserve Fred's salary slot.
Fred, Khem, Juancho for Bamba, Harris, Suggs and Chicago's 1st. I'd probably do.
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Not that I would support it.
But I wonder what type of player we could get if we traded our unprotected first this year which is currently sitting at #6.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Lord_Zedd wrote:Zeno wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Magic have contract structures the Raps tend to like in Bamba and Harris so if they really don't want Fred getting the Chicago pick and a flyer on a young player might be really appealing. Even if you don't like Bamba or Harris as players, their non-guaranteed contracts for next year preserve Fred's salary slot.
Fred, Khem, Juancho for Bamba, Harris, Suggs and Chicago's 1st. I'd probably do.
Orlando can just unguarantee Bamba/Harris to sign VanVleet outright this summer. If anything, Orlando will shove Cole Anthony down our throats, and/or the contract of Hampton which got Jalen Smith'ed this year.
There's no reason for Orlando to cough up a juicy pick + Suggs unless they want to narrow down the FVV sweepstakes between them and the Spurs.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
ItsDanger wrote:I get the impression that Suggs is available from Orlando.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Lord_Zedd wrote:Zeno wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
The Magic have a lot of redundant garbage that they'd love to pawn off on someone for good players. They're probably really happy with Banchero and how Wagner has been the best player out of the previous draft. That's 1-2 right there. I don't see an advantage for the Raptors in trading with them other than fearing losing Fred for nothing. Jonathan Isaac or Wendell Carter are the best young players that could fit our style of player, and Isaac is probably too different to fit into our locker room and Carter is too good to be traded for an incoming UFA. Bamba just isn't good. He's struggling to get minutes over Mo Wagner. Suggs is potential, but usually players that started off that bad are already in the bust zone or develop into overpaid role players if they pull it together.
Magic have contract structures the Raps tend to like in Bamba and Harris so if they really don't want Fred getting the Chicago pick and a flyer on a young player might be really appealing. Even if you don't like Bamba or Harris as players, their non-guaranteed contracts for next year preserve Fred's salary slot.
Fred, Khem, Juancho for Bamba, Harris, Suggs and Chicago's 1st. I'd probably do.
Orlando can just unguarantee Bamba/Harris to sign VanVleet outright this summer. If anything, Orlando will shove Cole Anthony down our throats, and/or the contract of Hampton which got Jalen Smith'ed this year.
There's no reason for Orlando to cough up a juicy pick + Suggs unless they want to narrow down the FVV sweepstakes between them and the Spurs.
DonDoolie wrote:After last nights game management probably thinks we are title contenders. We are about to trade all our picks
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:ItsDanger wrote:I get the impression that Suggs is available from Orlando.
they got trapped with him lol they didn't work him out or did enough homework - but he was supposedly a "consensus" top 4 pick on paper - Magic didn't know what they had in him - whether good or bad. but would look dumb if they passed on him at that moment.
i'd imagine they would pick Suggs at 7 when it came back around to them though if they picked up a guy like Giddey or Kuminga at #5 if Suggs wasn't picked up by OKC and Warriors.