Kawhi Leonard rumor

[threrf23]

Kawhi has surpassed 70 games played only [b]twice in his career (72 and 74).[/b] No thanks, tired of dealing with injured players. Kyrie can't seem to stay on the court, Hayward missed all of last season, trading for a constantly injured player like Kawhi makes no sense if you're giving up young cost controlled talent like Brown and Tatum.

Send them Rozier, the Kings pick, Memphis pick, whatever else. Not giving up Brown or Tatum for him.

This is partially due to Pops' penchant for resting players.

[robdog_5]

I've thought about the Kyrie for Kawhi swap but that's such an odd lineup. Does Brown go to Bench? Rozier likely starts. I mean if your really afraid of Kyrie leaving. I just down understand how you give away a guy who litteraly can get a bucket vs anyone at any time

[ConstableGeneva]

Kawhi has surpassed 70 games played only twice in his career (72 and 74). No thanks, tired of dealing with injured players. Kyrie can't seem to stay on the court, Hayward missed all of last season, trading for a constantly injured player like Kawhi makes no sense if you're giving up young cost controlled talent like Brown and Tatum.

Send them Rozier, the Kings pick, Memphis pick, whatever else. Not giving up Brown or Tatum for him.

I wonder how many games he's missed due to injury and how many were due to Pop just resting his main guys. Pop is famous for this, more than any other coach. That's why I can't rely on the number of games listed on basketball reference or wherever.

Even the games he missed during this season. Was he healthy enough to play but just refused because he was anticipating his exit?

[darrendaye]

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Good. Tatum can bring the ball up as he did at times in the ECF very very well a la KD.

Think they would let Leonard do so, personally. Pops experimented with him in the 2017 playoffs and he did pretty well as a point forward.

[ConstableGeneva]

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Good. Tatum can bring the ball up as he did at times in the ECF very very well a la KD.

Kawhi, Gordon, Horford, Tatum are all fine with bringing the ball up and even initiating the offense. If opponents pressure full court, they can bring in Smart or Rozier.

[Tyakack]

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Pretty sure pop would prefer brown unless kyrie commits, which he won't. Not sure how much I buy this. Trading kyrie for leonard makes us better but not nearly as great as we would be if we traded brown and kept kyrie to pair with leonard and hayward.

[Infinite Llamas]

Idk it seems Kyrie makes the most sense to trade. What happens if it fails and Kyrie and Kawhi both bail on us? If you lose Jaylen, rozier and the Kings pick on top of that, it's going to set us back. We were five minutes from the Finals. Add Hayward and Kawhi to the team and we could make some serious noise. I'm just thinking financially what a team with Hayward, Kawhi, Kyrie and Horford would look like.

[return2glory]

Tatum could end up better than Leonard.

Brown, Rozier, Morris, Memphis pick, Clippers pick.

Or Kyrie, Clippers pick, and this year’s 27th pick.

If Kyrie is dealt in a Leonard trade, might as well go after Lebron too.

PG: Lebron
SG: Hayward
C: Horford
SF: Tatum
PF: Leonard

Bench: Brown, Rozier, Theis, Baynes. Let Smart walk.

If GS can pay KD, Curry, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy, Boston can figure out a way to pay for Lebron and get a title.

[FeedReed]

f that. kyrie is more valuable to the team than leonard would be. brown i'd be ok with, not kyrie.

[thelarrybirdx]

f that. kyrie is more valuable to the team than leonard would be. brown i'd be ok with, not kyrie.

I mean we did just get to game 7 of the ECF without him.

[FeedReed]

they weren't winning anything without him. kyrie makes the games entertaining to watch. the guy is a true superstar, and they need him on the team. i wonder if reload can confirm if the c's are indeed putting kyrie on the table for leonard?

[Saint Lazarus]

f that. kyrie is more valuable to the team than leonard would be. brown i'd be ok with, not kyrie.

I mean we did just get to game 7 of the ECF without him.

We also got to game 7 without Leonard

[ChinaRegman]

What a heady and wild time to be a C's fan.

2 years ago we were happy to get a free agent the likes of Horford here and that was a great get for this franchise considering how hard it was prior to that to get any in prime star player in fee agency. Now just two years later we are loaded with young upcoming stars and 3 all stars to go with them and with a long window to challenge for championships. Consider this off season chatter on how crazy it is, we are debating the merits of whether to go after a Kawhi and or Labron and do it with a serious face. Wow!

And I am here to register strong NO!!! on shooting for Kawhi, knowing how special a player he has been and is in his prime.

Reasons, some have mentioned them already.
1. He selfishly quit on his playoff team
2. He is demanding a trade with conditions of who he wants to be traded to, again selfishly handcuffing any decent deal his team can get for him.
3. Boston is not one of them.
4. Has a mysterious injury
5. Is a free agent after the coming season (see 2&3).

So no not a good idea to trade any appreciable asset for him as a one year rental at this point especially when we may already have that in Kyrie and especially when our team is loaded and ready to challenge as is.

The only asset I would trade for him, if we want him, is Kyrie because either player would leave the C's/Spurs at about the same level and risk now and going forward. I would say the Spurs would be the better because they get rid of a player that definitely will not sign there for a player, that in theory, they would have a chance of resigning, that and knowing we at least we have a better than even shot of retaining Kyrie.

So NO!!!!!! even if we feel Kyrie is a risk. Myself I would wait to the trade deadline before any decision on Kyrie, if the tea leaves say to move him at the deadline I would try to swing a deal for a healing Porzingas.

Just my 2 cents and yes it is a crazy world where I am saying this. Now who is it the C's are thinking of drafting at 27?

Go C's

[Tai]

FWIW I’m against Lebron. I’m for Kawhi at the right price. I’m not interested in overpaying

So just FTR, Tatum and filler is overpaying for Kawhi?

Out of the question??

It’s not going to just be Tatum. It’s going to be Tatum + picks, likely the Sac pick and probably the Memphis pick along with it. You make the deal and Kawhi bolts to LA and your window slams shut

To be frank, the totality of your posts seems like someone on the GB trying to troll Celtics fans into believing they'll have to give up more than another team just because they're the Celtics. I saw this a lot last off-season where supposedly even if the Celtics seemed to have the best deal without the Nets pick on whoever, they tried to claim that the Celtics would have to give in the Nets pick has to not be fleeced by Danny. And I think this posts sums up that mentality; I dunno how else that explains you even implying a chance we give up ****ing Tatum to not even get Kawhi for more than a year when most here wouldn't even give up Brown for that scenario. Are you that committed to not wrapping your head around the idea that the Celtics could get Kawhi or are you just practicing your devil's advocate skills? Otherwise, it's very difficult to take your posts at face value right now.

No matter how you spin it, Brown + Rozier + Morris + Kings pick + filler is a hell of a deal for the Celtics to give up; at absolute worst it forces another team to put their best foot forward to outbid the Celtics, assuming a deal from said team is actually better. We think it's a better deal cause we're Celtics fans? Again, that sounds like something a GB poster says. You claimed it'll be painful for the Celtics to deal with the Spurs, how is that an easy deal to make? Cause it's the one tossed around a lot? Also, why would the Spurs be more keen to deal with the Lakers in conference than the Celtics? Wouldn't they want to give the Lakers a harder time if anything? Do the Spurs REALLY want to deal with Lavar Ball's son being dealt to Texas and it's not even Dallas or Houston?

If anything, this is between the Celtics and Sixers, and I'll take the deal I mentioned over Saric/Covington/#10 easy, unless the Spurs are looking to draft someone specific this year as opposed to next. Again, at worse we make them throw in Fultz, assuming the Spurs really wanna deal with whatever's going on there.

[ConstableGeneva]

FYI: Jabari Young, who covers the Spurs, is an interesting follow on Twitter. He seems to know more about the Kawhi situation than the average beat writer. Just take anything and everything with a grain of salt. And try to think for yourself when absorbing info (not really good at this part lol. I believe everything I read/hear. Gullible af.)

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

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So......in terms of salary matching, I'm guessing it means giving up Kyrie, or trading Brown/Morris/Rozier/Yabu/Nader.......

Kyrie, straight up
vs.
Brown/Morris/Rozier/Yabu/Nader/package of picks..............

Tough call. I'd hate to be Danny trying to sort this out right now. With that being said, I can't imagine the Spurs wanting a one year rental of Kyrie either.

[ermocrate]

He like to push the autodistruction button, there’s nothing worth trading for Kyrie beside KD but even then we will need to trade one between our wings for a top tier PG and they do not grow on trees.

[batabatuta]

Suns are offering the no.1 pick for Kwahi. Its over. Time to go home hahahaha.

[Tyakack]

Suns are offering the no.1 pick for Kwahi. Its over. Time to go home hahahaha.

Based off what? I just googled it and it came up nothing. That would be extremely idiotic of them.

[Parliament10]

f that. kyrie is more valuable to the team than leonard would be. brown i'd be ok with, not kyrie.

Agreed. Take Brown, Rozier, and some picks.
There's got to be a Gigantic Trade Exception involved in this. NO?