Thibs needs to go

[KnicksGadfly]

I'm kind of thinking about the best coaches and how they bounce back, and the one who comes to mind is Popovich. Devastating loss to Miami in the finals, reinvents his team using the Summertime strategy, the precursor to what the Warriors did.

It took a lot to do what Pop did. He had to 1) rebuild his team emotionally, and then 2) adjust his tactics drastically

I don't see Thibs being able to do either 1 or 2. I don't think he can do what Pops did in terms of leading. I don't see his tactics changing much either, and I think that's really required if we want to win with KAT. Obviously, this is Pop and that's a championship level, Hall of Fame GOAT-level coach. Worse coaches than Pop have won.

However, I'd say that what Thibs is facing is an effort on that level. We've had multiple team meetings (showing the team is not on sync), we've had a postseason with inconsistent effort, we've had devastating losses on a historic sale, now locker room shat leaking, and a flawed team that just got wrecked offensively and defensively. We had Tyrese Haliburton taunting us the whole series...and it was like they just ate it. On a tactical and locker-room level, this team needs to rebuilt. Even if we argue that we're facing is 60% of what the Spurs faced...I'm not confident in Thibs being the guy.

[8516knicks]

EVERYONE (commentators) saying he's not going anywhere.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm kind of thinking about the best coaches and how they bounce back, and the one who comes to mind is Popovich. Devastating loss to Miami in the finals, reinvents his team using the Summertime strategy, the precursor to what the Warriors did.

It took a lot to do what Pop did. He had to 1) rebuild his team emotionally, and then 2) adjust his tactics drastically

I don't see Thibs being able to do either 1 or 2. I don't think he can do what Pops did in terms of leading. I don't see his tactics changing much either, and I think that's really required if we want to win with KAT. Obviously, this is Pop and that's a championship level, Hall of Fame GOAT-level coach. Worse coaches than Pop have won.

However, I'd say that what Thibs is facing is an effort on that level. We've had multiple team meetings (showing the team is not on sync), we've had a postseason with inconsistent effort, we've had devastating losses on a historic sale, now locker room shat leaking, and a flawed team that just got wrecked offensively and defensively. We had Tyrese Haliburton taunting us the whole series...and it was like they just ate it. On a tactical and locker-room level, this team needs to rebuilt. Even if we argue that we're facing is 60% of what the Spurs faced...I'm not confident in Thibs being the guy.

These guys let Haliburton bitch them out.

There was a lack of pride and effort in that 3Q that goes beyond coaching.

[sol537]

Why Thibs needs to go?

1) He's old. Coaching is now a younger man's game (under 50)
2) He has an archaic offensive scheme that maximizes the PG only
3) His defensive schemes have been exposed all playoffs long
4) He has overused the starters and has not developed his bench guys
5) He has over relied on Josh Hart in the playoffs
6) His most used line-up in these playoffs has a historically bad net rating
7) He choked away game 1 in historic fashion
8) His in game adjustments are almost non-existent
9) He is not a dynamic enough coach to lead us to a title

I know... grass is always greener. In this case, not trying a new coach is like setting a ceiling on our title chances right under where it needs to be.

[matchman]

I'm kind of thinking about the best coaches and how they bounce back, and the one who comes to mind is Popovich. Devastating loss to Miami in the finals, reinvents his team using the Summertime strategy, the precursor to what the Warriors did.

It took a lot to do what Pop did. He had to 1) rebuild his team emotionally, and then 2) adjust his tactics drastically

I don't see Thibs being able to do either 1 or 2. I don't think he can do what Pops did in terms of leading. I don't see his tactics changing much either, and I think that's really required if we want to win with KAT. Obviously, this is Pop and that's a championship level, Hall of Fame GOAT-level coach. Worse coaches than Pop have won.

However, I'd say that what Thibs is facing is an effort on that level. We've had multiple team meetings (showing the team is not on sync), we've had a postseason with inconsistent effort, we've had devastating losses on a historic sale, now locker room shat leaking, and a flawed team that just got wrecked offensively and defensively. We had Tyrese Haliburton taunting us the whole series...and it was like they just ate it. On a tactical and locker-room level, this team needs to rebuilt. Even if we argue that we're facing is 60% of what the Spurs faced...I'm not confident in Thibs being the guy.

These guys let Haliburton bitch them out.

There was a lack of pride and effort in that 3Q that goes beyond coaching.

This team is full of high character and nice people, but it seemed the humbleness and kindness become a restraint to this team's full potential, something like that heavy white coat on Piccolo's shoulder. Am I too corny or old to wish for an Oakley or a Mase to lead this team of good guys to become more fierce?

[NoStatsGuy]

I'm kind of thinking about the best coaches and how they bounce back, and the one who comes to mind is Popovich. Devastating loss to Miami in the finals, reinvents his team using the Summertime strategy, the precursor to what the Warriors did.

It took a lot to do what Pop did. He had to 1) rebuild his team emotionally, and then 2) adjust his tactics drastically

I don't see Thibs being able to do either 1 or 2. I don't think he can do what Pops did in terms of leading. I don't see his tactics changing much either, and I think that's really required if we want to win with KAT. Obviously, this is Pop and that's a championship level, Hall of Fame GOAT-level coach. Worse coaches than Pop have won.

However, I'd say that what Thibs is facing is an effort on that level. We've had multiple team meetings (showing the team is not on sync), we've had a postseason with inconsistent effort, we've had devastating losses on a historic sale, now locker room shat leaking, and a flawed team that just got wrecked offensively and defensively. We had Tyrese Haliburton taunting us the whole series...and it was like they just ate it. On a tactical and locker-room level, this team needs to rebuilt. Even if we argue that we're facing is 60% of what the Spurs faced...I'm not confident in Thibs being the guy.

These guys let Haliburton bitch them out.

There was a lack of pride and effort in that 3Q that goes beyond coaching.

This team is full of high character and nice people, but it seemed the humbleness and kindness become a restraint to this team's full potential, something like that heavy white coat on Piccolo's shoulder. Am I too corny or old to wish for an Oakley or a Mase to lead this team of good guys to become more fierce?

i feel like we were that team last year. not to the extend of the oldschool knicks how Oak and Mase did it. but we had that identity a little bit. we were pushing teams around.. this year we have been the team that got pushed around (espcially by the pistions). And getting Mikal and KAT here chagned that drastically. I really dont wanna hate on them or talk them down. but they have a more goofy, "im just having fun and am happy to be here" kind of persona. And i dont even dislike it that much or anything. i just feel like 2 of those guys completely changed that demeanor of the team. i like it more gritty and angry.

At the end of the day i understand why people want thibs gone. but i think its a bit too easy to put all blame on him. Thibs preached transition defense, if the players aint running back there is only so much a coach can do. Same goes for the offense tbh. Thibs can draw up all the nice plays and try to implement a system. Its on the players to execute and show the spirit and effort. And i hate to say it, it was lacking a couple too many times in the playoffs. i wish it was all on thibs and a coach would be the easy fix.

if i am an NBA player and i need coach to motivate me to run back on Defense in the ECF, i am in the wrong place.

[Kampuchea]

Why Thibs needs to go?

1) He's old. Coaching is now a younger man's game (under 50)
2) He has an archaic offensive scheme that maximizes the PG only
3) His defensive schemes have been exposed all playoffs long
4) He has overused the starters and has not developed his bench guys
5) He has over relied on Josh Hart in the playoffs
6) His most used line-up in these playoffs has a historically bad net rating
7) He choked away game 1 in historic fashion
8) His in game adjustments are almost non-existent
9) He is not a dynamic enough coach to lead us to a title

I know... grass is always greener. In this case, not trying a new coach is like setting a ceiling on our title chances right under where it needs to be.

Can’t even get past #1 here. Coaches like Carlisle and Spo just too old now, Pacers and Heat need to move on from them.

[Jonathan2347]

There is alot of changes needed. We made it to the ECF which is great. But, this shows we have the capability to do so. So how do we move forward? I think the only untouchable is Jalen Brunson.

What is KAT, Hart, Bridges, OG, Robinson and McBride value around the league?

If there is a fire sale and PHX gets rid of Durant and Booker becomes available?

Just for **** and giggles.

Durant/Booker for KAT/Bridges/Hart/Robinson


Center
OG
Durant
Booker
Brunson

Get yourself just a 7 foot banger, is this line up enough with a new coach to make a run to the Finals? The window would only be two years because of Durant. Would Book/Brunson Co-Exists?

please don't derail. we have a trades and transaction thread. this conversation is about thibs needing to go. -JVG

[Enzo954]

Fwiw the Pacers are not a great defensive team and just made the Finals. The FO needs to make a decision on what they want this team's main identity to be, then from there move on from KAT or Thibs.

I keep seeing a few of you guys saying that they are not a good defensive team, yet I saw them game after game disrupt the hell out of our offense and keep Brunson frustrated. I was sadly very impressed with their defense.

[Kampuchea]

None of these are as good as Thibs

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[The KnicksFix]

you dont know the difference between calling a trade and speculating about players. KFTV doesnt know whats going on behind the scenes. he sometimes makes good educated guesses. thats it.

you are obsessed with this guy holy moly

Like I told you yesterday you should actually think before you post. CP is Dolan’s schilling and called the Kat trade over a year before it happened. It’s not speculation when he’s actually funded by Dolan and CAA. He also said they were trying to come off of quick and rj’s contract then the OG trade happens

you said Thibs is a top tier coach
I legit listed ten coaches better and you still can’t counter
I asked you how long have you been watching the Knicks and you still can’t Even answer that. It seems like your best counter is “but but but they’re gonna keep Thibs”. Ask yourself if you seriously think Thibs can win you a ring.

I see your location is Germany and based on the timing of your posts you’re definitely posting from Germany. Which means you have no clue about the 90s Knicks and their success. This also goes to show why you have no clue about content creators in the US and are willing to settle for mediocrity because you’ve only know thibs to be your only winning coach. For the last time. His coaching philosophy isn’t enough to put you over the top. Don’t believe me ? Have a look at this. And next time try to come back with facts or stats, and try not to live up to your name no stats guy

Watch on YouTube

you are a lost cause my guy. and you still dont know the difference between speculation and actually reporting. if shams and all those guys dont have insight KFTV sure as heck doesnt have insight.

i dont need to "counter" your list of coaches, because its pointless to debate with you. i also think its pretty funny how you type about your guy CP right now. when you call in you all over his nuts.

and i certainly dont need to defend my fandom, im a fan since around 99/00 because im a young guy you know. of course i havent lived through the 90s knicks like older people have. And now? whats your point? i have literally seen almost every game, especially the big ones since then and i also watched many many games back from the 94 run, etc. i probably been in the garden more often than you aswell.

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

[matchman]

Fwiw the Pacers are not a great defensive team and just made the Finals. The FO needs to make a decision on what they want this team's main identity to be, then from there move on from KAT or Thibs.

I keep seeing a few of you guys saying that they are not a good defensive team, yet I saw them game after game disrupt the hell out of our offense and keep Brunson frustrated. I was sadly very impressed with their defense.

I can't speak for them but I think defense, unlike offense, can be distinguished as individual D and team D. People screaming the bad D of Pacers are the individuals, for example while Toppin can jump high he's a bad rebounder, Nembhard constantly smoked by Brunson (well not this season anymore, he improved too), and of course Haliburton and Mathurin being treated as good offensive players and bad ones.

However, collectively Pacers aren't bad in team D. The team rebounding didn't lose a large margin to Knicks, despite we have some fierce rebounder in KAT, Mitch and Josh. They can force quite a sum of turnovers by intercepting the passing lanes and with double teams. Pacers as a team ain't that bad on D. Besides Nesmith you may not name the second good defensive player but they are good enough to cover each other's weakness as a team, and that's because of coaching.

Don't get me started on how we are the exact opposite even though Brunson and KAT are not famous from their D, at times, like Boston series game 6 we can be a tight knitted fabric that not even a fly can pass through, but how come we fail to do that consistently and collectively? Pointing to KAT is such an escapegoat move which we'll overlook the whole picture. And then we can come back to the theme of this thread.

[thebuzzardman]

If it ain't Thibs, then they need some personnel changes.

I'd say the team needs both.

Fire Thibs, and it needs a trade.

[nyknicks09]

If it ain't Thibs, then they need some personnel changes.

I'd say the team needs both.

Fire Thibs, and it needs a trade.

I believe Thibs is out. Now run it back with the same players and hire Mike Malone.

[Red Vines]

I'm still trusting that Rose will be aggressive trying to improve our weaknesses. If he brings Thibs back I will assume they agreed on a lot of changes for next year, using a deeper rotation, new offensive sets, ways to hold everyone accountable on defense, etc. But I do think the simpler answer will be a new coach rather than forcing an old dog to do new tricks.

[NoStatsGuy]

Like I told you yesterday you should actually think before you post. CP is Dolan’s schilling and called the Kat trade over a year before it happened. It’s not speculation when he’s actually funded by Dolan and CAA. He also said they were trying to come off of quick and rj’s contract then the OG trade happens

you said Thibs is a top tier coach
I legit listed ten coaches better and you still can’t counter
I asked you how long have you been watching the Knicks and you still can’t Even answer that. It seems like your best counter is “but but but they’re gonna keep Thibs”. Ask yourself if you seriously think Thibs can win you a ring.

I see your location is Germany and based on the timing of your posts you’re definitely posting from Germany. Which means you have no clue about the 90s Knicks and their success. This also goes to show why you have no clue about content creators in the US and are willing to settle for mediocrity because you’ve only know thibs to be your only winning coach. For the last time. His coaching philosophy isn’t enough to put you over the top. Don’t believe me ? Have a look at this. And next time try to come back with facts or stats, and try not to live up to your name no stats guy

Watch on YouTube

you are a lost cause my guy. and you still dont know the difference between speculation and actually reporting. if shams and all those guys dont have insight KFTV sure as heck doesnt have insight.

i dont need to "counter" your list of coaches, because its pointless to debate with you. i also think its pretty funny how you type about your guy CP right now. when you call in you all over his nuts.

and i certainly dont need to defend my fandom, im a fan since around 99/00 because im a young guy you know. of course i havent lived through the 90s knicks like older people have. And now? whats your point? i have literally seen almost every game, especially the big ones since then and i also watched many many games back from the 94 run, etc. i probably been in the garden more often than you aswell.

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

you really want me to believe that you are a doctor or an actual adult? the way you acting?

all you do is get personal and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking aswell. do you really think one video proves anything? and you still havent even understood the point. in my initial post i said i agree with a lot of the criticism. so what is your little video going to achieve?

you are defensive because i checked you on your statements, that thibs is coaching his final game. you look like a fool.

[drp07644]

There is alot of changes needed. We made it to the ECF which is great. But, this shows we have the capability to do so. So how do we move forward? I think the only untouchable is Jalen Brunson.

What is KAT, Hart, Bridges, OG, Robinson and McBride value around the league?

If there is a fire sale and PHX gets rid of Durant and Booker becomes available?

Just for **** and giggles.

Durant/Booker for KAT/Bridges/Hart/Robinson


Center
OG
Durant
Booker
Brunson

Get yourself just a 7 foot banger, is this line up enough with a new coach to make a run to the Finals? The window would only be two years because of Durant. Would Book/Brunson Co-Exists?

please don't derail. we have a trades and transaction thread. this conversation is about thibs needing to go. -JVG

Go back to 2K

[kNicksGmen]

Fwiw the Pacers are not a great defensive team and just made the Finals. The FO needs to make a decision on what they want this team's main identity to be, then from there move on from KAT or Thibs.

I keep seeing a few of you guys saying that they are not a good defensive team, yet I saw them game after game disrupt the hell out of our offense and keep Brunson frustrated. I was sadly very impressed with their defense.

I can't speak for them but I think defense, unlike offense, can be distinguished as individual D and team D. People screaming the bad D of Pacers are the individuals, for example while Toppin can jump high he's a bad rebounder, Nembhard constantly smoked by Brunson (well not this season anymore, he improved too), and of course Haliburton and Mathurin being treated as good offensive players and bad ones.

However, collectively Pacers aren't bad in team D. The team rebounding didn't lose a large margin to Knicks, despite we have some fierce rebounder in KAT, Mitch and Josh. They can force quite a sum of turnovers by intercepting the passing lanes and with double teams. Pacers as a team ain't that bad on D. Besides Nesmith you may not name the second good defensive player but they are good enough to cover each other's weakness as a team, and that's because of coaching.

Don't get me started on how we are the exact opposite even though Brunson and KAT are not famous from their D, at times, like Boston series game 6 we can be a tight knitted fabric that not even a fly can pass through, but how come we fail to do that consistently and collectively? Pointing to KAT is such an escapegoat move which we'll overlook the whole picture. And then we can come back to the theme of this thread.

brunson still torched nemhard the entire series for the most part. game 6 they played so aggressive up brunson could never get the ball in a position to go to work on him. he couldn't guard brunson going down hill or in the post etc. but nemhard is good on the perimeter - especially if the refs allow fouling/hand checking which is what the pacers did game 6.

it was pretty embarrassing the knicks offense couldn't execute when they were playing small or that bum bryant. they had zero rim protection but knicks couldn't break through the perimeter to get to the rim.

[The KnicksFix]

you are a lost cause my guy. and you still dont know the difference between speculation and actually reporting. if shams and all those guys dont have insight KFTV sure as heck doesnt have insight.

i dont need to "counter" your list of coaches, because its pointless to debate with you. i also think its pretty funny how you type about your guy CP right now. when you call in you all over his nuts.

and i certainly dont need to defend my fandom, im a fan since around 99/00 because im a young guy you know. of course i havent lived through the 90s knicks like older people have. And now? whats your point? i have literally seen almost every game, especially the big ones since then and i also watched many many games back from the 94 run, etc. i probably been in the garden more often than you aswell.

Hahahahah now you’re talking about my nuts? Bro at least take me out to dinner with the way that you’re talking. I know you like my posts but you can’t just start talking about my nuts man, it’s not a good look for you…. Anyway you being around 25 years old proves my point that this is the first successful team you’ve watched. Although Thibs has been the first successful coach you’ve watched, it doesn’t make him a world beater. That makes him better than the rest of the pile of garbage we have had to coach us. If you understood what a continued run of success was during the early 90s and early 00s, you’d see that top tier coaching helped us to get there too from Riley to SVG. Before Thibs we didn’t have a good coach, but it’s not as though you can’t get better than him. That’s my point.

It’s like if you accept a girl who treats you like hot garbage, but you still accept her because the last one cheated on you. From the way you type it sounds as though you’re the kinda guy that would accept that behavior, hence you accept thibs.

I highly doubt you’ve been in the garden more than than me, not to flex but I’m a highly successful doctor in NY and have sat multiple games courtside in the delta lounge this season. You on the other hand live in Germany…. Like I said stop it and get help while you still can.

Furthermore it seems as though you actually listen to KFTV so you would see that I actually go toe to toe with him. And in my last call argued that we do not run offensive sets including floppy, horns, double drag screen or Spain pick and roll. Instead it’s iso brunson. If you actually listened to the call you would see that I’m not buying the narrative that it’s all on the players, and I go toe to toe with CP, it’s usually Alex and CK who agree with me. Whether or not I’d like to admit it, CP is wayyyyyy more plugged in with the Knicks than any of those reporters you listed from Shams, to Windy. They’re represented by the CAA mafia, numb nuts. Are you that oblivious or are these forums your only source??

Anyway it’s useless arguing with a guy over the internet who lives in Germany (not NY), wasn’t around to see what continued success was in the 90s, and would rather talk about my nuts than saying Thibs ain’t the coach to lead us to a chip. I showed you a video of his lack of coaching did you watch it? Or do you beee it translated to German?

you really want me to believe that you are a doctor or an actual adult? the way you acting?

all you do is get personal and apparently your reading comprehension is lacking aswell. do you really think one video proves anything? and you still havent even understood the point. in my initial post i said i agree with a lot of the criticism. so what is your little video going to achieve?

you are defensive because i checked you on your statements, that thibs is coaching his final game. you look like a fool.

I never said Thibs is coaching his final game. Go up and read what I posted. I said that Knicks brass is noticing the same head scratching things that we are and that he is coaching on thin ice. It seems as though you’re reading comprehension needs work, or could it be there is a language discrepancy since you’re German.

Other posters on this forum know who I am and know what I do for a living. They know what I’m about, there was even an entire THREAD that I posted recently regarding that, check the facts and the statements before you step. Guys like you is what makes discussing the Knicks impossible. You come out and say “whether or not you like it Thibs’ is staying”. I didn’t know that you were hair on Thibs’ nutsack.

When you said he’s a top tier coach, I showed you ten coaches who are better (one third of the league). You then say I ride with KFTV, when multiple posters have commented and said that KFTV is well connected with Knicks brass. Not only do you look stupid, but it shows that your Knick knowledge is sorely lacking outstide of the forums. You’re the type of dood that when shown why the sky is blue, will argue that it’s not at night. Provided facts, you deviate and dodge. You’re 25 years old maximum, and sound like an ignorant, bloviated fool with similar behind the ears. I could tell that as soon as you started typing that you’re a young kid who don’t really understand the nuances of the game. Furthermore No disrespect, but you’re in Germany, wtf do you know about the 90s Knicks ? You aint from the NY and didn’t come up here, and you dont understand that Thibs comes from that era. HIS COACHING PHILOSOPHY DOES NOT WIN A RING IN TODAY’S BALL, AND THE PACER SERIES SHOWED YOU WHY. You should change your location to hair on Thibs’ nutsack, maybe then you would garner more respect on these forums.

I’ve given you facts based on
1. List of coaches
2. Video on his lack of coaching adjustment in game 6
3. KFTV having connections with CAA and Knicks front office and previous transactions they’ve called months in advance

PM me if you want to keep this going. I aint duckin’ no smoke, but I dont think other posters want to see this back and forth and by you calling me a fool and saying I’m on KFTV’s nuts, it shows that you resort to name calling like the little baby you are. I know you’re 25 but its time for the widdle German fella to step up and be a man, PM me. Otherwise hop off

[CharlesOakley]

It's a lot easier to change out our coach than move Kat for value. We can't just run it back, we need a real offense and a real defense.