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Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:53 am
by MartinToVaught
G35 wrote:
You didn't believe the Celtics would win a game, you charge it to the game and take the L.......
I didn't vote, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove there.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:53 am
by Patsfan1081
Why is it the Smart can only make threes in the post season? It's weird seeing a pg play good on both ends of floor for once.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:54 am
by Jedi32
CelticsPride18 wrote:Jedi32 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Kobe? The guy gave up in a series in 2006 against the Suns...game 7 I believe. You're generating false stories actually.
kobe scored over 20 points in the first half of that game and they were still down by double digits, so the team decided to go back to what had gotten them the 3-1 lead in the first place but the suns kept their foot on the gas.
Kobe lost a 24 pt lead against the Celtics in game 4 of 2008 finals.
true but boston was the better team that year,this year they aren't.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:54 am
by G35
MartinToVaught wrote:G35 wrote:
You didn't believe the Celtics would win a game, you charge it to the game and take the L.......
I didn't vote, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove there.
That you are full of hyperbole when you claim anyone thought the Celtics had a chance to win a game in this series. You are reaching......
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:54 am
by bakesale
infinite11285 wrote:G35 wrote:Jordan was not playing against a Detroit team missing their own best player, that had been playing lights out, on an 11 game playoff win streak, and coming off a 30 and 40 point blowout wins.......
Of the course the full context of both games won't be the same -- the point remains that Jordan got punked and furthers the point that even great players have bad games too.
But if you're going to make a comparison, then context does matter. If Detroit are allowed to flagrantly foul Jordan at home all the damn time, that makes a HUGE difference! Lebron is playing in an era where you can't touch him, especially when he's at home.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:54 am
by ___Rand___
mattstermh wrote:Brad Stevens is so obviously the coach of the year. His squad, on paper? And achieving what they have? You can't really tell me Spo and Lue are better.
LOL He's a very good coach in coaxing 53 wins he got out of this lineup. But Spo didn't have his lineup. No comparison. NOT EVEN CLOSE. No lottery picks, nothing. What Dantoni did in Houston was also nothing short of amazing. Outside of Harden, did the rest of the guys going to make an all-star team? That's a ragtag group man.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:55 am
by Atmanne

Lebron calling out that reporter. "Seems like you only come around when we lose."
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:56 am
by Hello Brooklyn
MartinToVaught wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Jordan was not in his prime in 1989 lol. Stop.
When did his prime begin, in your opinion?
Not to mention that the Pistons were a much better team and favored. And they weren't missing their best player. And the Bulls weren't at home (as you noted.)
The Celtics are the #1 seed in the conference. Nobody has them winning this series even after tonight, but them winning a game wasn't unthinkable. Let's not pretend you wouldn't be posting the same DRAMATIC ALL-CAPS RANTS about LeBron's legacy if he had this same performance in Boston instead of Cleveland.
And that wasn't a melt down. The Pistons were at home and had the lead the vast majority of the game.
And they used the Jordan Rules, and were basically flagrantly fouling Jordan every time he touched the ball.
Please don't compare that to this Celtics team that was supposed to be swept. Who's best player is Al Horford.
Yep, nothing but excuses and grasping at straws. Bottom line is, Jordan was passive and afraid to shoot in an ECF game. You were wrong, charge it to the game and move on.
I think Jordan got in his prime in '90 0r '91 at age 27/28. That's when most players have their prime years.
The Celtics are only the #1 seed because the Cavaliers let them have it. You know it and I know it.
They are not the #1 seed because they are a better team. The Detroit Pistons were a better team in '89. Thats why they won the Championship.
Everyone and their mother knows the Boston Celtics have no chance of winning the title this year. At all.
You can say Jordan was passive. You can't say he "melted down."
Sorry. Melting down is when you blow a huge lead at home, to a team that is favored, and are afraid to shot in the closing moments of a close game.
Jordan had a bad game against a superior team.
Lebron melted down.
You're the one whos wrong.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:57 am
by BeatDaCavs420
Atmanne wrote::lol: Lebron calling out that reporter. "Seems like you only come around when we lose."
Do you know who the reporter was and what was his response TIA lol
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:57 am
by TheGOATRises007
Did we travel back to 2011?
I thought Lebron being passive in playoff games was a thing of the past.
Wonder how he plays next game now.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:58 am
by bakesale
MartinToVaught wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Jordan was not in his prime in 1989 lol. Stop.
When did his prime begin, in your opinion?
Not to mention that the Pistons were a much better team and favored. And they weren't missing their best player. And the Bulls weren't at home (as you noted.)
The Celtics are the #1 seed in the conference. Nobody has them winning this series even after tonight, but them winning a game wasn't unthinkable. Let's not pretend you wouldn't be posting the same DRAMATIC ALL-CAPS RANTS about LeBron's legacy if he had this same performance in Boston instead of Cleveland.
And that wasn't a melt down. The Pistons were at home and had the lead the vast majority of the game.
And they used the Jordan Rules, and were basically flagrantly fouling Jordan every time he touched the ball.
Please don't compare that to this Celtics team that was supposed to be swept. Who's best player is Al Horford.
Yep, nothing but excuses and grasping at straws. Bottom line is, Jordan was passive and afraid to shoot in an ECF game. You were wrong, charge it to the game and move on.
If Lebron was getting hand checked and flagrantly fouled like Jordan was by Detroit, there's no way in hell Lebron would have the career that he has had.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:58 am
by Hello Brooklyn
MartinToVaught wrote:G35 wrote:Jordan was not playing against a Detroit team missing their own best player, that had been playing lights out, on an 11 game playoff win streak, and coming off a 30 and 40 point blowout wins.......
He was playing a Detroit team where Vinnie Johnson was their best player that night and Isiah, Laimbeer and Aguirre rode the pine for the entire fourth quarter. No excuses. MJ got straight-up punked and was afraid to shoot.
He was playing against the NBA CHAMPIONS.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:58 am
by jbk1234
BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Atmanne wrote::lol: Lebron calling out that reporter. "Seems like you only come around when we lose."
Do you know who the reporter was and what was his response TIA lol
Kenny Rhoda.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:59 am
by ___Rand___
TMU wrote:Pablo Escobar wrote:TMU wrote:The Celtics are mentally tougher than the Raptors.
True. Raptor players were sucking Lebron off during the series, they had no heart.
I'm still upset that the Raptors had basically given up in the middle of that series. Lowry deliberately saying that he won't be back in the series. Derozan basically conceding and acting as if the series is over after Game 2. The Celtics got blown out during the first two games, and won this game without their best player. They still won't win the series, but you have to give them a ton of credit tonight.
EXACTLY. That's what I was PISSED OFF ROYALLY ABOUT. It's one thing to respect your opponent. It's another to KOWTOW to them. Casey started it, way back after game 2 and Lowry and Derozan followed suit. Casey needs to go. He's mentally WEAK and out of ideas.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:59 am
by RCM88x
bakesale wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Jordan was not in his prime in 1989 lol. Stop.
When did his prime begin, in your opinion?
Not to mention that the Pistons were a much better team and favored. And they weren't missing their best player. And the Bulls weren't at home (as you noted.)
The Celtics are the #1 seed in the conference. Nobody has them winning this series even after tonight, but them winning a game wasn't unthinkable. Let's not pretend you wouldn't be posting the same DRAMATIC ALL-CAPS RANTS about LeBron's legacy if he had this same performance in Boston instead of Cleveland.
And that wasn't a melt down. The Pistons were at home and had the lead the vast majority of the game.
And they used the Jordan Rules, and were basically flagrantly fouling Jordan every time he touched the ball.
Please don't compare that to this Celtics team that was supposed to be swept. Who's best player is Al Horford.
Yep, nothing but excuses and grasping at straws. Bottom line is, Jordan was passive and afraid to shoot in an ECF game. You were wrong, charge it to the game and move on.
If Lebron was getting hand checked and flagrantly fouled like Jordan was by Detroit, there's no way in hell Lebron would have the career that he has had.
Yea Lebron is really weak, definitely would struggle in past era's where Jeff Hornacek could hand check.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:00 am
by DowJones
G35 wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:G35 wrote:Jordan was not playing against a Detroit team missing their own best player, that had been playing lights out, on an 11 game playoff win streak, and coming off a 30 and 40 point blowout wins.......
He was playing a Detroit team where Vinnie Johnson was their best player that night and Isiah, Laimbeer and Aguirre rode the pine for the entire fourth quarter. No excuses. MJ got straight-up punked and was afraid to shoot.
I don't care if Jordan did get punked that game, the Pistons were clearly the better team and they went on to win the finals. This Boston team is not anywhere near that Pistons team and they are not at home.
Those Pistons teams punked everybody for two years. This Boston team just came off a cumulative 70 pt loss at home. The Cavaliers are favored and the current champs, not even close to being the same. Jordan is getting punked by an ATG team and HOFers........
This argument is dumb. These games happen from time to time. LeBron wanted to win this game by just spreading the ball around. He clearly wasn't aggressive LeBron and they were up by 21 in the 2nd half. Then it all fell apart and thst is a switch thst is hard to turn on in the middle of a game. Cleveland as a team lost their aggression and Boston nailed a bunch of jumpers.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:01 am
by bakesale
Hello Brooklyn wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Jordan was not in his prime in 1989 lol. Stop.
When did his prime begin, in your opinion?
Not to mention that the Pistons were a much better team and favored. And they weren't missing their best player. And the Bulls weren't at home (as you noted.)
The Celtics are the #1 seed in the conference. Nobody has them winning this series even after tonight, but them winning a game wasn't unthinkable. Let's not pretend you wouldn't be posting the same DRAMATIC ALL-CAPS RANTS about LeBron's legacy if he had this same performance in Boston instead of Cleveland.
And that wasn't a melt down. The Pistons were at home and had the lead the vast majority of the game.
And they used the Jordan Rules, and were basically flagrantly fouling Jordan every time he touched the ball.
Please don't compare that to this Celtics team that was supposed to be swept. Who's best player is Al Horford.
Yep, nothing but excuses and grasping at straws. Bottom line is, Jordan was passive and afraid to shoot in an ECF game. You were wrong, charge it to the game and move on.
I think Jordan got in his prime in '90 0r '91 at age 27/28. That's when most players have their prime years.
The Celtics are only the #1 seed because the Cavaliers let them have it. You know it and I know it.
They are not the #1 seed because they are a better team. The Detroit Pistons were a better team in '89. Thats why they won the Championship.
Everyone and their mother knows the Boston Celtics have no chance of winning the title this year. At all.
You can say Jordan was passive. You can't say he "melted down."
Sorry. Melting down is when you blow a huge lead at home, to a team that is favored, and are afraid to shot in the closing moments of a close game.
Jordan had a bad game against a superior team.
Lebron melted down.
You're the one whos wrong.
YES! THIS IS SO GOOD!
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:01 am
by MartinToVaught
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Jordan got in his prime in '90 0r '91 at age 27/28. That's when most players have their prime years.
Wow, a year after the ECF meltdown. How convenient.
The Celtics are only the #1 seed because the Cavaliers let them have it. You know it and I know it.
That's not what haters like you were saying at the time. The second half of the regular season was full of concern trolling about how the Cavs were in the midst of a "crisis" and probably weren't going back to the Finals. Now the narrative is that the Cavs "let" the Celtics have the first seed? Can't have it both ways.
You can say Jordan was passive. You can't say he "melted down."
Sorry. Melting down is when you blow a huge lead at home, to a team that is favored, and are afraid to shot in the closing moments of a close game.
Jordan had a bad game against a superior team.
Lebron melted down.
You're the one whos wrong.
Whatever you say, dude. When you're grasping at semantics arguments, it's clear you have nothing. Maybe you should just stick to watching old '90s highlights on YouTube, because today's league clearly isn't for you.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:02 am
by DowJones
Atmanne wrote::lol: Lebron calling out that reporter. "Seems like you only come around when we lose."
They have a history. LeBron doesn't like him. LeBron is also a really sensitive guy.
Re: ECF: P2 | (1) Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavaliers (2) | CLE 2-1
Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:02 am
by Triple M
im tired of reading about which team is the 2nd best in the east and while i enjoyed the win tonight it doesnt change thst the Celtics are miles awsy from the Cavs. more importantly not only rte the 2nd teir teams in the east miles behind but they are also limited in ways they can surpsss the Cavs over next number of years.