Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

Kobblehead · Post #1881 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:47 am

Arsenal wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Morey is bringing in good shooters, not bad shooters. Sorry.

You don't know what Morey will or will not do. He just drafted a kid that shot 29% from three in the first round that will probably never shoot beyond the 34-36% range in the NBA.

I know Morey traded for Seth Curry and not Gary Harris like you wanted.

Yeah, Daryl makes a lot of mistakes.

Kobblehead · Post #1882 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:49 am

davesilver wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

That’s a good team on paper. Interesting to see how they mesh two star bigs.

Murray - Harris - MPJ - Blake - Jokic

Everyone can run point. That is a fascinating team

Not to mention they landed R.J. Hampton who in the very least can be a Zach Lavine-esque scorer off the bench and at the very best could be a legitimate star player in the NBA.

Post #1883 » by **sixers hoops** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:49 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
You don't know what Morey will or will not do. He just drafted a kid that shot 29% from three in the first round that will probably never shoot beyond the 34-36% range in the NBA.

I know Morey traded for Seth Curry and not Gary Harris like you wanted.

Yeah, Daryl makes a lot of mistakes.

Take it back!!!

Post #1884 » by **sixers hoops** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:55 am

Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

If I’m following this correct Grant is staying in Denver, so is Blake to Denver not likely?

Arsenal · Post #1885 » by **Arsenal** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:55 am

sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

If I’m following this correct Grant is staying in Denver, so is Blake to Denver not likely?

Grant and Plumlee are both going to Detroit.

eyeatoma · Post #1886 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:56 am

Arsenal wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Whoooooha, Wall wants out of Houston... Might be a chance to get Harden or Beal. Tobi for Beal hahah I know I'm dreaming, but Beal will be available...

You mean Wall wants out of Washington?

Haha yes...

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Post #1887 » by **sixers hoops** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:58 am

Arsenal wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

If I’m following this correct Grant is staying in Denver, so is Blake to Denver not likely?

Grant and Plumlee are both going to Detroit.

Sorry. I read shams tweet wrong. I thought he reported that Denver matched the offer sheet for Grant.

Post #1888 » by **sixers hoops** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:00 am

sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:If I’m following this correct Grant is staying in Denver, so is Blake to Denver not likely?

Grant and Plumlee are both going to Detroit.

Sorry. I read shams tweet wrong. I thought he reported that Denver matched the offer sheet for Grant.

I didn’t read it wrong. He tweeted that denver matched the offer sheet. Then tweeted Denver WAS WILLING to match the offer sheet.

the_process · Post #1889 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 am

sixers hoops wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Grant and Plumlee are both going to Detroit.

Sorry. I read shams tweet wrong. I thought he reported that Denver matched the offer sheet for Grant.

I didn’t read it wrong. He tweeted that denver matched the offer sheet. Then tweeted Denver WAS WILLING to match the offer sheet.

Offer sheet? Grant isn't restricted, though.

EDIT: NM, I see the tweet that DEN was willing to give him that money as well, but Grant wanted to leave for an expanded offensive role.

youngcrev · Post #1890 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:13 am

Yeah, it was that Denver was willing to give him the same amount, but he chose Detroit to expand his offensive role.

So not only is Detroit paying Jerami Grant $20M a year, they're also getting a version of that expects to up his usage significantly... Yikes

youngcrev · Post #1891 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:14 am

Jokic and Murray need to lock Jerami in a room like the Clippers did with Jordan back in the day. Bad contract, but they need him to be able to matchup with teams.

Kobblehead · Post #1892 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:18 am

Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Arsenal · Post #1893 » by **Arsenal** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:18 am

Bucks/Pels deal for Jrue is expanding. Hope we're the other team and getting Hill out of it.

youngcrev · Post #1894 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:22 am

Kobblehead wrote:Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Because now they have a pretty huge hole defensively in terms of big wing defenders, in a conference where they have to go through Kawhi and Lebron, and no real means to replace him.

Kobblehead · Post #1895 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:28 am

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Because now they have a pretty huge hole defensively in terms of big wing defenders, in a conference where they have to go through Kawhi and Lebron, and no real means to replace him.

I'm assuming that Michael Porter Jr. is going to become a 30 minute player, going forward. He's a tremendous defensive talent at that size range. Also, it shouldn't be hard to retain Torrey Craig if they want to retain athletic shot contesting, defensively. Also, Keita Diop possesses that shotblocking skill and has been in the rookie oven for a few years. Maybe he's about ready to contribute.

Post #1896 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:32 am

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Because now they have a pretty huge hole defensively in terms of big wing defenders, in a conference where they have to go through Kawhi and Lebron, and no real means to replace him.

Yeah big hit for them. Not sure who the obvious team to step up is though? Clippers should be trying like hell to get Gasol.

Dallas' group might just try to outscore everyone.

eyeatoma · Post #1897 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:32 am

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Because now they have a pretty huge hole defensively in terms of big wing defenders, in a conference where they have to go through Kawhi and Lebron, and no real means to replace him.

I'm assuming that Michael Porter Jr. is going to become a 30 minute player, going forward. He's a tremendous defensive talent at that size range. Also, it shouldn't be hard to retain Torrey Craig if they want to retain athletic shot contesting, defensively. Also, Keita Diop possesses that shotblocking skill and has been in the rookie oven for a few years. Maybe he's about ready to contribute.

Lol wtf? Porter Jr. was terrible defensively.

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ZarcMumoff · Post #1898 » by **ZarcMumoff** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:34 am

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why do you give Jerami Grant this elevated importance to the Nuggets?

Good for him for improving his shooting, but he still kinda sucks. He's just an athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Because now they have a pretty huge hole defensively in terms of big wing defenders, in a conference where they have to go through Kawhi and Lebron, and no real means to replace him.

I'm assuming that Michael Porter Jr. is going to become a 30 minute player, going forward. He's a tremendous defensive talent at that size range. Also, it shouldn't be hard to retain Torrey Craig if they want to retain athletic shot contesting, defensively. Also, Keita Diop possesses that shotblocking skill and has been in the rookie oven for a few years. Maybe he's about ready to contribute.

Someone just asked who will guard LeBron and Kawhi, and two of your answers were MPJ and Keita Bates-Diop.

Flagged.

Post #1899 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 am

Clearly the Sixers have one more "big" (most of MLE big) piece to add. I would prefer another forward, wouldn't surprise me if it was Reggie Jackson or some other guard though.

Kobblehead · Post #1900 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:37 am

ZarcMumoff wrote:Someone just asked who will guard LeBron and Kawhi, and two of your answers were MPJ and Keita Bates-Diop.

Flagged.

As if Jerami Grant could? Grant is a terrible defensive player. He's just another Aaron Gordon, defensively. Athletic weakside shotblocker that can't guard anyone.

Craig and Diop can't guard anyone, either, but they can block shots from the weakside. So same defensive skillset as Jerami.

Porter is a legitimate defensive talent. You'll see in due time.