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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1881 » by bartlettbear » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:59 am

Try to get Young from the Spurs for a second round pick
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Post#1882 » by LAL1947 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:28 am

Hoopshype had an article some days ago saying Cam Reddish might be available for a protected lottery pick. I think the Mavs should make a strong play for him. He'd be a nice addition to DFS at SF, and provide a more attacking alternative there.

If the Mavs could then somehow turn Porzingis into Myles Turner + Lauri Markkanen, that would be great! I don't know if such a deal will be possible... and the Mavs will likely need to add something to make it work... but Turner's (18m) and Lauri's (15.7m) dollars are close enough to Porzingis (31.7m).

Dallas in: Turner, Markkanen
Indiana in: Porzingis, unprotected FRP from Dallas, + Brunson?
Cleveland in: TJ Warren

Luka, Brunson*
THJ, Bullock
Reddish, DFS
Markkanen, Kleber
Turner, WCS*

Anyone not listed or with an * above can be used in trades too.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1883 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:20 pm

LAL1947 wrote:Hoopshype had an article some days ago saying Cam Reddish might be available for a protected lottery pick. I think the Mavs should make a strong play for him. He'd be a nice addition to DFS at SF, and provide a more attacking alternative there.

If the Mavs could then somehow turn Porzingis into Myles Turner + Lauri Markkanen, that would be great! I don't know if such a deal will be possible... and the Mavs will likely need to add something to make it work... but Turner's (18m) and Lauri's (15.7m) dollars are close enough to Porzingis (31.7m).

Indiana in: Porzingis, protected FRP, + Brunson?
Cleveland in: TJ Warren
Dallas in: Turner, Markkanen

Luka, Brunson*
THJ, Bullock
Reddish, DFS
Markkanen, Kleber
Turner, WCS*

Anyone not listed or with an * above can be used in trades too.


Why would anyone take KP?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1884 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:21 pm

Turner could be available, he and Sabonis can't play together.
The problem is Carlisle, he never touch KP again.
We need a third team.

I think 1FRP + Powell and scrubs could work.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1885 » by daoneandonly » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:25 pm

Powell needs to be taken out of the starting unit immediately. Moving KP will be tough, but if we can get someone like Tobias, Barnes, or Grant for him, I;d do it. Otherwise, put him back at the 5, and trade Powell and Green for someone like Kuzma or Thad to be the 4.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1886 » by Mr B » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:29 pm

Would New Orleans be interested in KP/DFS for Valanciunas/Ingram? Would the Mavs be interested in something like that?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1887 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:40 pm

Mr B wrote:Would New Orleans be interested in KP/DFS for Valanciunas/Ingram? Would the Mavs be interested in something like that?


Barely impossible...
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1888 » by LAL1947 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:57 pm

Bob8 wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:Luka, Brunson*
THJ, Bullock
Reddish, DFS
Markkanen, Kleber
Turner, WCS*

Why would anyone take KP?

I can't answer that... but do you like the team and think it could be an actual long-term contender?

If yes, then it should be up to Cuban & Co to do what is needed to make it happen, no?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1889 » by King Ken » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:30 pm

It will be hard seeing a trade for KP that's not just for salary relief and DAL trading a draft asset.

A future 1st, KP for Favors - http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhfz3ls4
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1890 » by Mavrelous » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:34 pm

KP has 9.7 PER to begin the season, his trade value was dirt cheap with 20+ PER, beautiful...
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1891 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:58 pm

Trade KP now is a no sense move
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1892 » by arkuo » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:16 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Trade KP now is a no sense move



I'd like to see KP moved back to center. powell is useless without the lobs. A move to center doesn't require KP to bend down and defend quicker forwards, saving himself from injury. Instead, I'd like to see Bullock inserted jn the starting lineup and DFS to power forward.

C- Porzingis
PF- DFS
SF- Bullock
SG- THJ
PG- Doncic
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1893 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:53 pm

arkuo wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Trade KP now is a no sense move



I'd like to see KP moved back to center. powell is useless without the lobs. A move to center doesn't require KP to bend down and defend quicker forwards, saving himself from injury. Instead, I'd like to see Bullock inserted jn the starting lineup and DFS to power forward.

C- Porzingis
PF- DFS
SF- Bullock
SG- THJ
PG- Doncic


And who take rebounds? That's a big problem...
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1894 » by fuller4379 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:06 pm

KP is worthless. I can’t see anyone wanting to take that contract.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1895 » by Pinkyring » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:39 pm

Goodness its been 3 games, nobody has been good but thj to be honest, luka has sucked just as much as Porzingis has just chucking more shots so his numbers look good. At least give it 15 games or so unless we are talking about powell wcs dorian and maxi burke as we already know what they are
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1896 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:14 pm

LAL1947 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:Luka, Brunson*
THJ, Bullock
Reddish, DFS
Markkanen, Kleber
Turner, WCS*

Why would anyone take KP?

I can't answer that... but do you like the team and think it could be an actual long-term contender?

If yes, then it should be up to Cuban & Co to do what is needed to make it happen, no?


I would like to move him too, even for much less, but I don't understand what is a point of totally unrealistic scenarios? His value is negative at the moment and very unlikely to change in near future.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1897 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:16 pm

Pinkyring wrote:Goodness its been 3 games, nobody has been good but thj to be honest, luka has sucked just as much as Porzingis has just chucking more shots so his numbers look good. At least give it 15 games or so unless we are talking about powell wcs dorian and maxi burke as we already know what they are


Take Luka out and Mavs are 0:3. Take KP out, nothing changes.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1898 » by Pinkyring » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:19 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:Goodness its been 3 games, nobody has been good but thj to be honest, luka has sucked just as much as Porzingis has just chucking more shots so his numbers look good. At least give it 15 games or so unless we are talking about powell wcs dorian and maxi burke as we already know what they are


Take Luka out and Mavs are 0:3. Take KP out, nothing changes.

They definitely lose the rapts game without kp and to say otherwise is ridiculous, he was dominant defensively and made clutch shots to keep us within reach.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1899 » by fuller4379 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:25 pm

Pinkyring wrote:Goodness its been 3 games, nobody has been good but thj to be honest, luka has sucked just as much as Porzingis has just chucking more shots so his numbers look good. At least give it 15 games or so unless we are talking about powell wcs dorian and maxi burke as we already know what they are


Good thing the NBA did us a favor and put some weak teams at the front of our schedule. We will see if this team jells. We got a good upgrade from Richardson to Bullock. Hopefully, KP is just in a slump, but he is looking worse than last year to me.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1900 » by LAL1947 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:54 pm

Pinkyring wrote:Goodness its been 3 games, nobody has been good but thj to be honest, luka has sucked just as much as Porzingis has just chucking more shots so his numbers look good. At least give it 15 games or so unless we are talking about powell wcs dorian and maxi burke as we already know what they are

I'm fine with Porzingis, even though I think his dollars should be halved. Anyway, my trade suggestion above your post is not because of how the Mavs are playing right now (or any one player)... but because of how strong the rosters of the competition are. The Mavs need to make a lot of improvements to have a real chance but have no assets to trade with... and their drafting ability sucks a55 (I also can't see it getting better with a "relationships" guy at the helm rather than someone with a vision for the roster... but maybe I'm judging Nico wrongly & prematurely). So, as far as I can see, the only way to improving this roster is thru trades.

Maybe it's just me, but I think giving up KP and 2-3 FRPs is not too bad for Turner, Markkanen and Reddish... i.e., without giving up other important role players such as THJ, DFS and Kleber. Picks be darned TBH, the overall quality of the roster will increase enough with these kind of players and they are all young.

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