2025 NBA Draft

Orl_Magic · Post #1881 » by **Orl_Magic** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 12:27 am

basketballRob wrote:I think Fears could be good in around 3-4 years.

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3 or 4 games more like it

basketballRob · Post #1882 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 12:39 am

Orl_Magic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I think Fears could be good in around 3-4 years.

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3 or 4 games more like it

His EFG last was 480. He had 4.1 apg and 3.4 TOVs. It's going to take him a while to be a good player.

Edwards had a 473 EFG in college, so it could work out for him.

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yoyojw17 · Post #1883 » by **yoyojw17** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:29 am

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RichCollab · Post #1884 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:31 am

basketballRob wrote:
Orl_Magic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I think Fears could be good in around 3-4 years.

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3 or 4 games more like it
His EFG last was 480. He had 4.1 apg and 3.4 TOVs. It's going to take him a while to be a good player.

Edwards had a 473 EFG in college, so it could work out for him.

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Trading assets to move up and draft Fears is definitely not a win now move.

Fears has risk but a high ceiling. Sure if we could grab him at 16. But trading up doesn’t seem like a sound decision.

basketballRob · Post #1885 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:54 am

RichCollab wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Orl_Magic wrote:

3 or 4 games more like it
His EFG last was 480. He had 4.1 apg and 3.4 TOVs. It's going to take him a while to be a good player.

Edwards had a 473 EFG in college, so it could work out for him.

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Trading assets to move up and draft Fears is definitely not a win now move.

Fears has risk but a high ceiling. Sure if we could grab him at 16. But trading up doesn’t seem like a sound decision.

I think he's going to be really good, but he probably wouldn't be in our rotation next season.

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RookieStar · Post #1886 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:28 am

cedric76 wrote:
SOUL wrote:https://www.rareslums.com/articles/2025-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round

i wrote a mock draft for the entire draft y'all check it out if you want some content!

also aren't we kinda around the late lotto anyway? i wonder who they have their eye on and what it would even cost.

A lot to give away for Simons

Exactly... like... werent they prqctically giving him away?

thelead · Post #1887 » by **thelead** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:40 am

SOUL wrote:https://www.rareslums.com/articles/2025-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round

i wrote a mock draft for the entire draft y'all check it out if you want some content!

also aren't we kinda around the late lotto anyway? i wonder who they have their eye on and what it would even cost.

Little edit for you on the last line:

I hope the Clippers feel the same.

Post #1888 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:09 am

thelead wrote:
SOUL wrote:https://www.rareslums.com/articles/2025-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round

i wrote a mock draft for the entire draft y'all check it out if you want some content!

also aren't we kinda around the late lotto anyway? i wonder who they have their eye on and what it would even cost.

Little edit for you on the last line:

I hope the Clippers feel the same.

Thank you

cedric76 · Post #1889 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:03 am

SOUL wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
SOUL wrote:https://www.rareslums.com/articles/2025-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round

i wrote a mock draft for the entire draft y'all check it out if you want some content!

also aren't we kinda around the late lotto anyway? i wonder who they have their eye on and what it would even cost.

A lot to give away for Simons

Yep that's why I would be very careful in doing it, that's what it'll cost to match salaries basically!

Very nice article though, well done

Post #1890 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:22 am

SOUL wrote:https://www.rareslums.com/articles/2025-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round

i wrote a mock draft for the entire draft y'all check it out if you want some content!

also aren't we kinda around the late lotto anyway? i wonder who they have their eye on and what it would even cost.

Trade 16 for Simons and draft Clayton at 25? I like it.

basketballRob · Post #1891 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:38 pm

I'm not sure Clayton makes it to 25.

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basketballRob · Post #1892 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:48 pm

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jezzerinho · Post #1893 » by **jezzerinho** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:14 pm

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There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

RichCollab · Post #1894 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:25 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
basketballRob wrote:

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There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.

VFX · Post #1895 » by **VFX** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:30 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
basketballRob wrote:

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There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

Seth Curry, Jordan Clarkson, Cole Anthony.

Best case is he is Devonte Graham

basketballRob · Post #1896 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:33 pm

RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
basketballRob wrote:

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There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.

FVV is a lot smaller. Clayton is like 3 inches taller. Fears is .5" taller than Clayton. Clayton is the same height and wingspan as Steph.

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RichCollab · Post #1897 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:44 pm

basketballRob wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.
FVV is a lot smaller. Clayton is like 3 inches taller. Fears is .5" taller than Clayton. Clayton is the same height and wingspan as Steph.

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So you agree it’s a bad comparison then. LOL

jezzerinho · Post #1898 » by **jezzerinho** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:00 pm

RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
basketballRob wrote:

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There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.

I was aware about Fred's position.

Fred has become that on/off guard who can do a bit of everything and defend well for his size using a beefy frame, technique and good anticipation.

I see that being Claytons key to success in the pros. Develop his on-ball skills, build his distribution chops and become a better defender. Be that on-off all rounder.

RichCollab · Post #1899 » by **RichCollab** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:03 pm

jezzerinho wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
There really hasn't been another Fred VanVleet since the man himself. Could Clayton develop into that guy?

FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.

I was aware about Fred's position.

Fred has become that on/off guard who can do a bit of everything and defend well for his size using a beefy frame, technique and good anticipation.

I see that being Claytons key to success in the pros. Develop his on-ball skills, build his distribution chops and become a better defender. Be that on-off all rounder.

FVV showed signs of that in college and had less to develop. FVV isn’t a good comp.

jezzerinho · Post #1900 » by **jezzerinho** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:09 pm

RichCollab wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
FVV was an actual PG in college. Not a converted one.

I’m not sure I see the parallels.

I was aware about Fred's position.

Fred has become that on/off guard who can do a bit of everything and defend well for his size using a beefy frame, technique and good anticipation.

I see that being Claytons key to success in the pros. Develop his on-ball skills, build his distribution chops and become a better defender. Be that on-off all rounder.

FVV showed signs of that in college and had less to develop. FVV isn’t a good comp.

Yeah but you see I'm not comparing Clayton to Fred, so it doesn't really matter whether it is or it isn't.

I'm wondering if Clayton could/should mould himself on what FVV has become, as I see him being capable of that archetype.

He could just stay an attack-minded combo that's mainly off ball and not defensively amazing. He might hit McCollum levels if he sticks at it.

What should we do?