Thank Nation! Raps Pick 9th - Draft on June 23rd 8pm (Part 6)

CoachJReturns · Post #1901 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:19 am

BillyGM wrote:

No one's speaking about Timothe!

I still like him. Definitely in my top 5 at 9th.

0 - 100 · Post #1902 » by **0 - 100** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:06 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic/status/742699220575096832[/tweet]

CoachJReturns · Post #1903 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:24 pm

0 - 100 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic/status/742699220575096832[/tweet]

Nice. Thanks for the update.

0 - 100 · Post #1904 » by **0 - 100** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:45 pm

I forgot Taurean Prince played a role in Mortal Kombat movie

CoachJReturns · Post #1905 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:53 pm

0 - 100 wrote:I forgot Taurean Prince played a role in Mortal Kombat movie

Ahhh... Sonya and Katana....Good times.

Risk101 · Post #1906 » by **Risk101** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:12 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JonathanTjarks/status/742699710151045120[/tweet]

PaperHoops · Post #1907 » by **PaperHoops** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:15 pm

Luwawu at 9 would be fine. I really don't see any of the prospects that are expected to be available there making an impact right away.
#27 - there is a better chance of a more mature player coming in and getting minutes.

If you don't get Chriss or Dunn at 9 - go after Luwawu. I think Luwawu > Kork

CoachJReturns · Post #1908 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:23 pm

PaperHoops wrote:Luwawu at 9 would be fine. I really don't see any of the prospects that are expected to be available there making an impact right away.
#27 - there is a better chance of a more mature player coming in and getting minutes.

If you don't get Chriss or Dunn at 9 - go after Luwawu. I think Luwawu > Kork

I think Korkmaz and Luwawu or about even. Luwawu isn't quite as thin and seems a bit more explosive, while Korkmaz has the lights out shooting ability. They are both among a larger group of guys that all have roughly the same odds of becoming star players.
I might prefer either to Brown, who I was okay with taking until I saw some more tape of him. His ball handling is just as bad as Luwawu without the shooting. He looks like Demar, or a slimmer Joey Graham!

ATLTimekeeper · Post #1909 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:36 pm

You can find Luwawu-types in the 2nd round.

0 - 100 · Post #1910 » by **0 - 100** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:39 pm

If Masai is trading this 9th pick and not trading back, we better be getting something big in return.

CoachJReturns · Post #1911 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:41 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:You can find Luwawu-types in the 2nd round.

Someone in particular you're referring to?

Risk101 · Post #1912 » by **Risk101** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:00 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:You can find Luwawu-types in the 2nd round.

Not only that we had a Luwawu type with Axel Toupane who ended up signing with the Nuggets.

And shoutout to Masai for assembling such a talented group of guys like we had this past year. Delon, Norm, Suggs, Bruno, Roberts, Toupane, and Bebe would have been trash if that was a team you put in the NBA but they would have mopped the floor with teams like the Nets, Lakers and Sixers. Our D-league team alone was pretty impressive talent wise.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #1913 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:04 pm

CoachJReturns wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:You can find Luwawu-types in the 2nd round.

Someone in particular you're referring to?

I don't know who will be drafted in the 2nd this year, but off the top of my head, Isaiah Cordinier, Pat McCaw, Malcom Brogdan. I don't think Luwawu offers anything better than those prospects, personally.

CoachJReturns · Post #1914 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:06 pm

A name we haven't brought up before who could fill some minutes if Biz leaves;

Pascal Siakam.
Sophomore, 6'10 and 230, 7'3 wingspan, 20.3ppg, 11.6reb, 2.2 blk, .539fg, .200 3pt, .678ft.

Seems like he should be in the conversation at 27 along with the other dozen or so players.

Nyce_1 · Post #1915 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:13 pm

Gonzaga’s Domantas Sabonis is said to have a soft promise in the top 12. It’s believed he may be Toronto’s guy at No. 9 or Orlando’s guy at No. 11, which would explain why he’s refused to work out for anyone outside the top 12. The Magic are also one of the teams linked to Kentucky big man Skal Labissiere.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

0 - 100 · Post #1916 » by **0 - 100** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:19 pm

Where do the Bulls go for a point guard, you ask? Other scuttle from Italy is that Vanderbilt guard Wade Baldwin may have what’s called a “soft promise” from the Bulls at No. 14. The problem with a soft promise is there is no guarantee for the Bulls that Baldwin will be there when they draft or that a more attractive player won’t fall to them.

League sources pegged Baldwin and Notre Dame’s Demetrius Jackson as the top options for the Bulls at 14 and that moving Rose this summer seems to be what the Bulls are thinking. That’s at least the talk from Eurocamp.

Bulls sources have maintained since the end of the season that they were going to look at all possibilities in trade and around the draft, so rumors about Butler or Rose should not be surprising. The question is, will the Bulls ultimately pull the trigger on something? At this point, they seem pretty open to conversations.

Promises Galore

It’s pretty rare that an NBA team guarantees they will draft someone, but in an industry where everyone works with everyone, a “soft promise” holds value – enough so that agents will keep their player from working out below a certain pick and, in some cases, will shut down workouts altogether.

There are a quite a few guys that have “soft promises,” according to league sources.

It seems Providence guard Kris Dunn may have enough of a promise in the top six that he’s basically told teams he won’t work out for any of them one-on-zero, meaning a private individual workout. The only way he’s getting on a plane is if he gets the chance to go head to head with anyone on the board in front of him. So far, none of the teams have been able to make that happen, so Dunn seems content with the commitment he has.

There is a sense that the Boston Celtics want to trade the third overall pick, but more and more executives believe the Celtics take Kentucky’s Jamal Murray or Cal’s Jaylen Brown if they keep the pick. Washington’s Marquese Chriss could be the dark horse for the Celtics in a bet-on-the-upside move. If the Celtics do not take Brown, its believed Denver and Sacramento are the next two teams extremely high on him as a prospect.

Syracuse’s Malachi Richardson is believed to have a soft promise in the teens. He is said to be one of the favorites of the Memphis Grizzlies, who also are also said to have eyes for Demetrius Jackson. This could come down to who’s there at No. 17 for the Grizz.

Gonzaga’s Domantas Sabonis is said to have a soft promise in the top 12. It’s believed he may be Toronto’s guy at No. 9 or Orlando’s guy at No. 11, which would explain why he’s refused to work out for anyone outside the top 12. The Magic are also one of the teams linked to Kentucky big man Skal Labissiere.

CoachJReturns · Post #1917 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:20 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
CoachJReturns wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:You can find Luwawu-types in the 2nd round.

Someone in particular you're referring to?

I don't know who will be drafted in the 2nd this year, but off the top of my head, Isaiah Cordinier, Pat McCaw, Malcom Brogdan. I don't think Luwawu offers anything better than those prospects, personally.

McCaw measures similarly at the same height and only an inch shorter wingspan. He's also 20-25 pounds lighter which is quite significant. Brogdan is 2 inches shorter and 3 years older. Cordinier is also 2 inches shorter.
I'm not saying Luwawu is some star in the making, but he measures out better than those guys for whatever that's worth. If nothing else, it has value on the defensive end where he should be able(at least on paper) to defend small forwards.

Lukeem · Post #1918 » by **Lukeem** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:23 pm

0 - 100 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic/status/742699220575096832[/tweet]

would love to see this

CoachJReturns · Post #1919 » by **CoachJReturns** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:23 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Gonzaga’s Domantas Sabonis is said to have a soft promise in the top 12. It’s believed he may be Toronto’s guy at No. 9 or Orlando’s guy at No. 11, which would explain why he’s refused to work out for anyone outside the top 12. The Magic are also one of the teams linked to Kentucky big man Skal Labissiere.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

If we're taking a rotation guy like Sabonis at 9th, I hope someone with more upside falls to 27th. Skal, Maker etc...

gerrit4 · Post #1920 » by **gerrit4** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:23 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Gonzaga’s Domantas Sabonis is said to have a soft promise in the top 12. It’s believed he may be Toronto’s guy at No. 9 or Orlando’s guy at No. 11, which would explain why he’s refused to work out for anyone outside the top 12. The Magic are also one of the teams linked to Kentucky big man Skal Labissiere.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/

If it's us, I think it's pretty soft. My belief is that Masai wants to trade the pick, but won't get a good enough offer for it. So if that's the case, I just don't see why he'd make a promise.