Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

JBreezeNY · Post #19181 » by **JBreezeNY** » Sun May 24, 2015 11:29 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:
Grinditout wrote:At this stage, Winslow seems like MKG but not as tall

Not even. MKG was a better prospect.

No way in the world you actually believe that. Please. For the sake of Knick fans. Please I beg you!

MKG was a better prospect though..

knickstape21 · Post #19182 » by **knickstape21** » Sun May 24, 2015 11:32 pm

JBreezeNY wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:
Not even. MKG was a better prospect.

No way in the world you actually believe that. Please. For the sake of Knick fans. Please I beg you!

MKG was a better prospect though..

Ugh.

3toheadmelo · Post #19183 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sun May 24, 2015 11:36 pm

if mudiay improves his jump shot we may have the best pick in the draft

god4gives · Post #19184 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:07 am

C--- Koufos or Ajinca/ Aldrich / Bachynski
PF---- Greg Monroe / JSmith / Travis Wear
SF---- Melo / Thomas / Early
SG---- Danny green / Hardaway / Thanasis
PG---- Galloway / D'Angelo or Mudiay / Calderon

or

4th pick=$3,326,700.
Trade down for 2 picks since Knicks don't have none for 2016 and select Kaminsky and Jerian Grant.

C--- Koufos or Ajinca/ Aldrich / Bachynski
PF---- Greg Monroe / Kaminsky / JSmith
SF---- Melo / Thomas / Early
SG---- Danny green / Hardaway / Thanasis
PG---- Galloway / Calderon / Jerian Grant

god4gives · Post #19185 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:08 am

what's the difference between mudiay and jerian grant. who's better and why? :-?

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19186 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:09 am

god4gives wrote:what's the difference between mudiay and jerian grant. who's better and why?

Age, vision, and athleticism.

HEZI · Post #19187 » by **HEZI** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:11 am

Winslow is basically Corey Brewer with a slightly better jumper. It doesnt mean he wont be a good player, I actually think he is physically ready to make an immediate impact in the league because of his energy and hustle, but I just would not waste a 4th overall draft pick to take him.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19188 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:12 am

SMAC-K wrote:Winslow is basically Corey Brewer with a slightly better jumper. It doesnt mean he wont be a good player, I actually think he is physically ready to make an immediate impact in the league because of his energy and hustle, but I just would not waste a 4th overall draft pick to take him.

Eh..I'm biased because I really don't like Brewer and don't think he should be in the rotation of most teams, but not even I see the comparison. Winslow is better creating for others, better handle, better defender (and has actual strength), and is better at creating contact going to the rim / finishing. Brewer is dog ****.

god4gives · Post #19189 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:21 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:what's the difference between mudiay and jerian grant. who's better and why?

Age, vision, and athleticism.

if you're saying that mudiay has better court vision and is more athletic than Jerian Grant then that's incorrect. :blank:

Post #19190 » by **Marcus** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:23 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:what's the difference between mudiay and jerian grant. who's better and why?

Age, vision, and athleticism.

was never overly impressed with Jerian when I watching him this past season. Not to say I don't think he could be solid in the league and come in day one and give decent minutes. I was just never super enamored with him watching him play.

hit a lot of tough shots one game and then nothing the next. put himself in the air quite a few times without really knowing what he was going to do with it when he got there.

good size, decent shot but not great, think his "vision" was helped by his experience in the system and with those teammates. didn't really appear to pass guys open as much as he knew they would be somewhere on the floor due to the play call.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19191 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:23 am

god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:what's the difference between mudiay and jerian grant. who's better and why?

Age, vision, and athleticism.

if you're saying that mudiay has better court vision and is more athletic than Jerian Grant then that's incorrect.

No it's not. :blank:

Mudiay changes direction and has a quicker first step than Mudiay and his vision IS better. He is more turnover prone, but that might change with age.

god4gives · Post #19192 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:35 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Age, vision, and athleticism.

if you're saying that mudiay has better court vision and is more athletic than Jerian Grant then that's incorrect.

No it's not. Mudiay changes direction and has a quicker first step than Mudiay and his vision IS better. He is more turnover prone, but that might change with age.

where's pleighboi moocow007? He's a Jerian fan. Can you please ask him to answer my question? He's more knowledgeable about Jerian's game.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19193 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:37 am

god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
if you're saying that mudiay has better court vision and is more athletic than Jerian Grant then that's incorrect.

No it's not. Mudiay changes direction and has a quicker first step than Mudiay and his vision IS better. He is more turnover prone, but that might change with age.

where's pleighboi moocow007? He's a Jerian fan. Can you please ask him to answer my question? He's more knowledgeable about Jerian's game.

Because he agrees with you he is more knowledgable? I've watched a bunch of ND games because of my roommates. I'm not talking out of my ass. It's just what I have noticed. You can have a different opinion and be done with it.

god4gives · Post #19194 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:53 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
No it's not. Mudiay changes direction and has a quicker first step than Mudiay and his vision IS better. He is more turnover prone, but that might change with age.

where's pleighboi moocow007? He's a Jerian fan. Can you please ask him to answer my question? He's more knowledgeable about Jerian's game.

Because he agrees with you he is more knowledgable? I've watched a bunch of ND games because of my roommates. I'm not talking out of my ass. It's just what I have noticed. You can have a different opinion and be done with it.

It's not because he might agree with me. It's because he seems to talk about him more than you. So his opinion matters and he seems to be more objective than you are on certain things. I haven't seen you talk about Jerian's game throughout the season at all on here.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19195 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 1:55 am

god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
where's pleighboi moocow007? He's a Jerian fan. Can you please ask him to answer my question? He's more knowledgeable about Jerian's game.

Because he agrees with you he is more knowledgable? I've watched a bunch of ND games because of my roommates. I'm not talking out of my ass. It's just what I have noticed. You can have a different opinion and be done with it.

It's not because he might agree with me. It's because he seems to talk about him more than you. So his opinion matters and he seems to be more objective than you are on certain things. I haven't seen you talk about Jerian's game throughout the season at all on here.

Then you haven't been paying as much attention as you think you have...or it might have been during one of your suspensions. I have talked about him plenty of times on here and have said multiple times I'd love to pick him up as a late first round pick. Carry on, pleighboi.

god4gives · Post #19196 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:00 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Because he agrees with you he is more knowledgable? I've watched a bunch of ND games because of my roommates. I'm not talking out of my ass. It's just what I have noticed. You can have a different opinion and be done with it.

It's not because he might agree with me. It's because he seems to talk about him more than you. So his opinion matters and he seems to be more objective than you are on certain things. I haven't seen you talk about Jerian's game throughout the season at all on here.

Then you haven't been paying as much attention as you think you have...or it might have been during one of your suspensions. I have talked about him plenty of times on here and have said multiple times I'd love to pick him up as a late first round pick. Carry on, pleighboi.

don't forget to relay my message to him. thank you.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #19197 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:02 am

god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
It's not because he might agree with me. It's because he seems to talk about him more than you. So his opinion matters and he seems to be more objective than you are on certain things. I haven't seen you talk about Jerian's game throughout the season at all on here.

Then you haven't been paying as much attention as you think you have...or it might have been during one of your suspensions. I have talked about him plenty of times on here and have said multiple times I'd love to pick him up as a late first round pick. Carry on, pleighboi.

don't forget to relay my message to him. thank you.

message him yourself.

god4gives · Post #19198 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:05 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
god4gives wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Then you haven't been paying as much attention as you think you have...or it might have been during one of your suspensions. I have talked about him plenty of times on here and have said multiple times I'd love to pick him up as a late first round pick. Carry on, pleighboi.

don't forget to relay my message to him. thank you.

message him yourself.

realgm needs an @ option. my question isn't private message worthy. i only asked you because you like to send me messages. you stay on my dizzle like the police. :wink:

Blue Ninja · Post #19199 » by **Blue Ninja** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:29 am

knickstape21 wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:
Grinditout wrote:At this stage, Winslow seems like MKG but not as tall

Not even. MKG was a better prospect.

No way in the world you actually believe that. Please. For the sake of Knick fans. Please I beg you!

MKG did everything that Winslow did but with better length, height, and weight. He was a worse 3 point shooter, but was better in the post. He also shot free throws at a good percentage, unlike Winslow, indicating potential growth in his jumper which has happened this past year. They are similar prospects but because of size MKG was better.

djphan · Post #19200 » by **djphan** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:29 am

i guess all the ppl who love mudiay think that he has this out of this world athleticism and i just don't see it... the evidence certainly wasn't there in the china games... the guy was #1 or #2 in preseason rankings so there is some residue from that... the guy wasn't exactly dunking 5x a game and finishing every time he was in the paint...

i could point to his numbers.. but there is only some meaning in them given the lack of data from it... and it's not like anyone here knows what any of it means anyway... i'll just say there's a level of unknown with him that you don't get with the other guys who aren't exactly chopped liver ... and a guy who's going to dominate in this league on the level of wade or harden don't exactly have hard times getting into the paint and finishing as much as mudiay has against a weak league with better spacing than the ncaas...

but we can all hope and dream... i hope we make the best decision either way...