Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch

[T-Cat]

If we are looking for a future PG, it will be based on how well they would each compliment our current core players!

Right now our current back court is small and unless we have an athletic 2 guard (maybe Harkless) drafting Burke makes more sense. He makes others better and has leadership qualities we really need (as does M. Smart)

Marcus Smart may not have the classic point guard skills like Burke may possess but again he has the physical tools that Burke does not possess. Ultimately both have the leadership and intangibles we need going forward.

We maybe looking at this discussion like the 2005 NBA draft and compare the two prospects like CP3 and Deron Williams.

One last little personal reason why I would choose Smart over Burke is that we have Derrick Rose to worry about next year in the east and I would much have him guarding Rose over Burke ( Burke has the skills and Smart the potential...it's a coin toss)

Both should be great PG's if they continue to put in work~

[londoncollin]

What do Marcus Smart, Otto Porter, Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Anthony Bennett, Alex Len, and Willie Cauley-Stein have in common?

They're all about 19 with the potential to be great NBA players?

Cuz let's be real, the tournament doesn't matter as much as you guys are making it seem. Being a great college player doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NBA. Thomas Robinson was seen as the most NBA ready player in the draft last year. Are any of you pickin him over Drummond, Lillard, etc. now?

[BaunceyChillups]

Thomas Robinson's awful percentage on 2 point baskets for a power forward was a pretty large red flag about him going in the draft, it's just another case of a good tournament performance inflating draft stocks. A bad tournament performance won't hurt a player's stock since guys like Smart, Porter, etc have been scouted for an entire season and a relatively known quantities; as far as I can see as long as you're a lottery pick the tournament can only help you.

[magicman123]

the book is already out on Zeller and Olidapo, they cant improve their stocks but only hurt themselves even more, imo

[dsg2021]

I remember people talking about Kyrie Irving like he wasn't athletic enough to be an elite PG. I'll trust our scouts.

True that

[Neon1]

I am going through and updating my database and i just updated Shabazz Muhammad. Crazy crazy numbers.

He has more offensive rebounds then defensive rebounds 2.7 offensive boards per game.....No wonder he is never back on defense, He also uses a 29.8% usage rate to only get 20.9ppg (on 20.0 true shot attempts per game) and 0.9asts PER36????

Wow that you would litterally have to NEVER EVER pass to only get 0.9apg with a usage that insanely high.

[thelead]

I am going through and updating my database and i just updated Shabazz Muhammad. Crazy crazy numbers.

He has more offensive rebounds then defensive rebounds 2.7 offensive boards per game.....No wonder he is never back on defense, He also uses a 29.8% usage rate to only get 20.9ppg (on 20.0 true shot attempts per game) and 0.9asts PER36????

Wow that you would litterally have to NEVER EVER pass to only get 0.9apg with a usage that insanely high.

Thanks for confirming what I've been saying since last year.

[OrlandoMagician]

Oladipo has started well, 3/3 from the floor w/ 3 rebs and a 5point lead for Indiana.

[Noonskadoodle]

Players to watch today:

Deshaun Thomas OSU finished with 22 points & 5 boards

Will Clyburn (6'7" 2 Guard) Iowas St finished with 17 points

Victor Oladipo Indiana has 6 points & 3 boards so far

Ben McLemore KU plays at 5:15
PJ Hairston UNC
Reggie Bullock UNC

Jamaal Franklin SDSU plays at 7:10

Brandon Paul Illinois plays at 8:40
Shane Larkin Miami
Durand Scott Miami



I will be paying most attention to Jamaal Franklin & def Durand Scott.

Both are 2 guards capable of defending, play making, & knocking down shots.

[OrlandoMagician]

If Trey Burke leads Michigan past Kansas (assuming Kansas wins - no sure thing of course), then he'll have to be considered a top 10 pick. Especially considering the underwhelming performances of other lottery guys.

[Neon1]

Will Clyburn (6'7" 2 Guard) Iowas St finished with 17 points

I had never really heard of this guy until today, i say him ranked 57th in the latest www.nbadraft.net mock this morning in the 2nd round (late enough to snag with our 2nd rounder). Neither draftnet or draftexpress really has a scouting report on him (only had a year old youtube highlight mix), but at 6-7 SG had caught my attention, so i watched his video (looked like a great athlete and good catch/spot and shoot guy, also had a lot of pass lane steal highlights) so then ran his numbers through my database (numbers look pretty good).


and i also watched the Iowa State game, He got completely robbed, he had the game winner foul and-1 shot wiped away on the most BS charge EVER. It would have put Iowa St up 3 and possibly up 4 with very little time left.

He is very intriging if he ends up available at our 2nd round pick. Looks like the makings of a 2nd round steal if he lasts that long.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/will-clyburn
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VWVfFt4Cw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfkbP8D-yZ0[/youtube]

[dsg2021]

Lucious and Wyatt impressing me today. Most interesting player is Oladipo starting 2nd half right now.

[Neon1]

FYI......The guy for Temple #33 that is guarding Oladipo is listed at 6-6......Oladipo is 6-2 or 6-3 man im telling you. I dont want a 6-2 SG without even having NBA guard skills.

[Noonskadoodle]

FYI......The guy for Temple #33 that is guarding Oladipo is listed at 6-6......Oladipo is 6-2 or 6-3 man im telling you. I dont want a 6-2 SG without even having NBA guard skills.

Yea I highly doubt he is 6-5.


Clyburn is extremely smooth & makes the game look effortless at times. I have only seen Iowa St 3-4 times this year but he has def stood out every time. Seems like his game would translate really well to the NBA.

I like his length & offensive mindset. Not afraid to dig in on defense as well.

[magicman123]

Oladipo is so weak around the rim, he uses his speed nice but he gets completely shut down around the basket

[Noonskadoodle]

Oladipo is a guy who can be had later in the draft in the form of Durand Scott. (Hell Scott is not even listed in the 2nd round in mocks)

Oladipo & Scott are both listed at 6-5 & both players height has been in question.

Both are their conferences defensive players of the year.

Scott may not be as tenacious on D but he certainly is not far behind. Scotts offense is much much better/smoother than Oladipos whereas Oladipo is a better rebounder & more explosive.

[dsg2021]

I'm not sure Oladipo is 6'5 either but he's both NBA fast and NBA athletic easily. He's also straight up taken the assignment on Wyatt, where on last possession all Wyatt wanted to do was stand in the corner in a whole possession that ended up a TO for Temple.

6-11 FG 12 pts, 7 boards, 1 assist. 2nd half so far.

[BaunceyChillups]

Oladipo is so weak around the rim, he uses his speed nice but he gets completely shut down around the basket

This is why watching only tournament games is a bad idea when evaluating players

Oladipo is one of the best finishers in the NCAA (he converts in the high 60s at the rim) but you'd never know by watching this game

[magicman123]

Oli shouldn't even be on our draft board

[Neon1]

Oladipo is a guy who can be had later in the draft in the form of Durand Scott. (Hell Scott is not even listed in the 2nd round in mocks)

Oladipo & Scott are both listed at 6-5 & both players height has been in question.

Both are their conferences defensive players of the year.

Scott may not be as tenacious on D but he certainly is not far behind. Scotts offense is much much better/smoother than Oladipos whereas Oladipo is a better rebounder & more explosive.

Draftexpress has Scott "listed" as a 6'3" 195 PG/SG (NBA projection). 6'3" looks accurate visually imo.