Otto Porter Part 2

[DCZards]

Capela is on his way to becoming the best center in the NBA. I got the rockets beating GS in the WCF.

Capela better than Karl Anthony Towns or Boogie Cousins? I don't see that happening.

I don't look at either of those two guys as competition. Rudy Gobert? maybe

I'd also take Embiid (assuming he can stay healthy) and Myles Turner over Capela.

[Coach76]

But back to Otto though...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/10/29/after-flirtation-with-kings-otto-porter-jr-elevates-his-game-for-the-wizards/?utm_term=.eeef52cc244c

[Shanghai Kid]

It's mind boggling how good of a shooter Otto is.

[Ruzious]

Otto is an advanced metrics superstar - by far the best on the Wiz this season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WAS/2018.html

Advanced metics folks might tell you that an Otto for Anthony Davis trade would favor the Pelicans.

[J-Ves]

Here's a good visual representaion of how good Porter has been thru 6 games:

Read on Twitter

And here is how he stacks up vs the rest of the league:

Read on Twitter

A quick explanation on the graph, players in the top right quadrant are good on both defense and offense, bottom right = good offense and bad defense, bottom left = bad offense and defense, and top left = bad offense and good defense.

And if you want to know more about the stat they are using here is the write up https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

[nate33]

Here's a good visual representaion of how good Porter has been thru 6 games:

Read on Twitter

And here is how he stacks up vs the rest of the league:

Read on Twitter

A quick explanation on the graph, players in the top right quadrant are good on both defense and offense, bottom right = good offense and bad defense, bottom left = bad offense and defense, and top left = bad offense and good defense.

And if you want to know more about the stat they are using here is the write up https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

So basically, Otto is the 4th best player in the league, behind Giannis and Cousins, about even with Lebron, and barely ahead of Drummond.

[Ruzious]

Here's a good visual representaion of how good Porter has been thru 6 games:

Read on Twitter

And here is how he stacks up vs the rest of the league:

Read on Twitter

A quick explanation on the graph, players in the top right quadrant are good on both defense and offense, bottom right = good offense and bad defense, bottom left = bad offense and defense, and top left = bad offense and good defense.

And if you want to know more about the stat they are using here is the write up https://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

So basically, Otto is the 4th best player in the league, behind Giannis and Cousins, about even with Lebron, and barely ahead of Drummond.

Drummond's always interested me. He's very limited offensively, and he can be easily outmaneuvered on defense, but he can effect the game positively because he's such a big gifted athlete who can dominate the boards.

[NatP4]

hey look, Sato is better than Frazier hmm

[dckingsfan]

Is Otto better than Beal now? I wonder how Beal would react if Otto became an All-Star before he did?

[keynote]

Oof. Is that Harrison Barnes way down there in that lower left quadrant? What's going on with him? Too busy facilitating subtweet-y IG videos at his wedding reception to work on his game in the offseason?

[Ruzious]

Is Otto better than Beal now? I wonder how Beal would react if Otto became an All-Star before he did?

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

[Dark Faze]

If Detroit and Orlando fall off I think we can get 3 all stars in there this year.

[tontoz]

Is Otto better than Beal now? I wonder how Beal would react if Otto became an All-Star before he did?

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

Beal should have made it last year and has less competition. Otto has a tougher road since LeBron and the Greek are locks.

Nice problem to have though.

[Illmatic12]

Is Otto better than Beal now? I wonder how Beal would react if Otto became an All-Star before he did?

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

Beal should have made it last year and has less competition. Otto has a tougher road since LeBron and the Greek are locks.

Nice problem to have though.

Otto has an easier road no? A bunch of All-Star forwards just left the East (George, Butler, Millsap, Anthony) and the one that did come out East is out for the season (Hayward). Guards are tougher , but Brad should’ve made it last year already and is in line to benefit from Isaiah Thomas being out until ASB.

I’d go so far as to say that if the Wizards are on pace to win as many games as last year or more, then Wall/Beal/Porter all three will be All-Stars

[keynote]

Is Otto better than Beal now? I wonder how Beal would react if Otto became an All-Star before he did?

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

Beal should have made it last year and has less competition. Otto has a tougher road since LeBron and the Greek are locks.

Nice problem to have though.

The roster will likely include 7 front court players. LeBron and Giannis will start. I'd guess the third starting F will be either Embiid or Porzingis, but both will likely make the team if healthy. After that, we're looking at Love, Aaron Gordon (if he continues his torrid start), Simmons, Porter, and Drummond competing for four spots. I suspect Love and Drummond get in before Porter. I figure it's more likely that CLE will get 2 and/or DET will get 1 over WAS getting 3.

[Ruzious]

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

Beal should have made it last year and has less competition. Otto has a tougher road since LeBron and the Greek are locks.

Nice problem to have though.

The roster will likely include 7 front court players. LeBron and Giannis will start. I'd guess the third starting F will be either Embiid or Porzingis, but both will likely make the team if healthy. After that, we're looking at Love, Aaron Gordon (if he continues his torrid start), Simmons, Porter, and Drummond competing for four spots. I suspect Love and Drummond get in before Porter. I figure it's more likely that CLE will get 2 and/or DET will get 1 over WAS getting 3.

Or, how about both Porter and Beal make it, but Wall doesn't - because of the competition at PG? Porter and Beal would have to say - "We wouldn't be here without John" 100 times each.

[nate33]

Interesting thought. Points, rebounds, and assists (mostly points) get you in the All-Star game, so while Porter probably is better, Beal is more likely to make the all-star team. Ironically, it may be up to Wall - will he pass more to Otto?

Beal should have made it last year and has less competition. Otto has a tougher road since LeBron and the Greek are locks.

Nice problem to have though.

The roster will likely include 7 front court players. LeBron and Giannis will start. I'd guess the third starting F will be either Embiid or Porzingis, but both will likely make the team if healthy. After that, we're looking at Love, Aaron Gordon (if he continues his torrid start), Simmons, Porter, and Drummond competing for four spots. I suspect Love and Drummond get in before Porter. I figure it's more likely that CLE will get 2 and/or DET will get 1 over WAS getting 3.

It's a shame. Otto leads all of those guys in nearly every advanced stat. He ranks 1st in WS/48, VORP, BPM, ORtg, DRtg, and he's just barely behind Porzingis and Gordon in PER. Yet it wouldn't surprise me if all of those guys beat out Otto to the All Star Game.



http://bkref.com/tiny/a6hOc

[Shanghai Kid]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that Otto is so far ahead of Beal and Wall in all the impact stats?

Like I'm watching the games and I'm seeing Otto being super efficient, but it never occurs to me that he is impacting the game more then Wall/Beal overall.

Wall in particular seems to come up unimpressive in advanced metrics but from the eye test you see him doing everything on the court.

It has to be Otto's scoring efficiency and his low turnover percentage that drives it, and he's been good defensively also.

[tontoz]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that Otto is so far ahead of Beal and Wall in all the impact stats?

Like I'm watching the games and I'm seeing Otto being super efficient, but it never occurs to me that he is impacting the game more then Wall/Beal overall.

Wall in particular seems to come up unimpressive in advanced metrics but from the eye test you see him doing everything on the court.

It has to be Otto's scoring efficiency and his low turnover percentage that drives it, and he's been good defensively also.

The problem for Wall is that "everything" includes a lot of missed shots and turnovers.

Porter shoots well, rarely turns it over, rebounds well and gets a lot of steals. He is actually leading the league in steals per game.

[tontoz]

Porter is averaging 20 pts per 36 with a TS of 66%. His assist to turnover ratio is over 4.