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Post#1921 » by damecurry » Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:29 pm

We've done a lot that mix-up the top-tier talent, I want to do something that mixes up the role-players more, specifically something that increases value of good players who don't get drafted cause they took more FGA. What about something like if they never made any all-nba or all-defensive team than their FGA are cut in half... would definitely change the value of some of the standard role-players... idk. Something in that vain.
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Post#1922 » by migya » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:47 am

A good one would be you have to pick a top 20 player ever from the Top 100 project. Picked in the last round. Would make planning difficult, as you don't know who's left when it's your pick.
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Post#1923 » by migya » Sun Nov 7, 2021 5:21 pm

migya wrote:A good one would be you have to pick a top 20 player ever from the Top 100 project. Picked in the last round. Would make planning difficult, as you don't know who's left when it's your pick.


For the next one?
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Post#1924 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:10 pm

damecurry wrote:We've done a lot that mix-up the top-tier talent, I want to do something that mixes up the role-players more, specifically something that increases value of good players who don't get drafted cause they took more FGA. What about something like if they never made any all-nba or all-defensive team than their FGA are cut in half... would definitely change the value of some of the standard role-players... idk. Something in that vain.


Maybe you have to spend a certain number of fga's on players who have never won a game? Or you are taxed based on how many wins they have? Maybe we've done some version of these but I wouldn't mind again.
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Post#1925 » by Laimbeer » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:18 pm

migya wrote:
migya wrote:A good one would be you have to pick a top 20 player ever from the Top 100 project. Picked in the last round. Would make planning difficult, as you don't know who's left when it's your pick.


For the next one?


So you couldn't pick a top twenty in the first seven rounds? We might want to exclude the 2010s and 2020s since there are great players too recent to be top 20.

You could build a complete team in the first seven rounds and pass on any top 20 players in the eighth, but that could be an alternate strategy if you want to eliminate uncertainty.

Another item is the people picking high in the last round have a big advantage. Maybe go true snake draft so the people picking high in the eighth are a bit disadvantaged earlier on?
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Post#1926 » by Colbinii » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:17 am

NBA Finalist Teammates

8 Rounds, at the end of the draft each player you select has to be a teammate of someone else on your team who played on the same Finals team.
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Post#1927 » by Colbinii » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:23 am

migya wrote:
migya wrote:A good one would be you have to pick a top 20 player ever from the Top 100 project. Picked in the last round. Would make planning difficult, as you don't know who's left when it's your pick.


For the next one?


I like the idea of incorporating the Top 100 List in some capacity.

Maybe it's a pairs type draft where each pair you draft needs to add up to 60 or 75.

If you want LeBron you can pair him with anyone #59 or worse but you could get better value with something like Pippen/Wade (#28 and #32).

Maybe the players just add up to 100 with anyone not on the list is 100.
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Post#1928 » by damecurry » Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:42 pm

I don't care what we do next but we should get something going soon or there won't be anything going on at all... How about the same game we just did but with the '70s or '90s instead of '80s? Or we can do that top 100 project if anyone can figure out how to do it haha.
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Post#1929 » by Laimbeer » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:59 pm

Colbinii wrote:NBA Finalist Teammates

8 Rounds, at the end of the draft each player you select has to be a teammate of someone else on your team who played on the same Finals team.


We did this as a pairs draft, but the twist of not being assured of which teammate is interesting.
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Post#1930 » by Laimbeer » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:04 pm

Colbinii wrote:
migya wrote:
migya wrote:A good one would be you have to pick a top 20 player ever from the Top 100 project. Picked in the last round. Would make planning difficult, as you don't know who's left when it's your pick.


For the next one?


I like the idea of incorporating the Top 100 List in some capacity.

Maybe it's a pairs type draft where each pair you draft needs to add up to 60 or 75.

If you want LeBron you can pair him with anyone #59 or worse but you could get better value with something like Pippen/Wade (#28 and #32).

Maybe the players just add up to 100 with anyone not on the list is 100.


The problem is players with shorter careers being low. For example, LeBron could be paired with Walton, Giannis, or Jokic.
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Post#1931 » by Colbinii » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:41 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
migya wrote:
For the next one?


I like the idea of incorporating the Top 100 List in some capacity.

Maybe it's a pairs type draft where each pair you draft needs to add up to 60 or 75.

If you want LeBron you can pair him with anyone #59 or worse but you could get better value with something like Pippen/Wade (#28 and #32).

Maybe the players just add up to 100 with anyone not on the list is 100.


The problem is players with shorter careers being low. For example, LeBron could be paired with Walton, Giannis, or Jokic.


One MVP per pair.
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Post#1932 » by Colbinii » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:31 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:NBA Finalist Teammates

8 Rounds, at the end of the draft each player you select has to be a teammate of someone else on your team who played on the same Finals team.


We did this as a pairs draft, but the twist of not being assured of which teammate is interesting.


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Post#1933 » by Laimbeer » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:24 am

Dr Positivity wrote:First draft at pricing for 2009 players over $10, thoughts? ($100 rosters, no FGA)

Spoiler:
Lebron - $70
Dirk - $60
Wade - $60
Kobe - $60
Paul - $60
Dwight - $50
Duncan - $50
Nash - $40
Garnett - $40
Pierce - $30
Billups - $25
Allen - $25
Pau - $25
Roy - $20
Yao - $20
Deron - $20
Parker - $15
Granger - $15
Manu $15
Rashard - $15
Melo - $15
Durant - $15
Bosh - $15
West - $10
Shaq - $10
Amare - $10
Odom - $10
Kidd - $10
Rondo - $10
Vince - $10
Joe - $10
Kevin Martin - $10
Hamilton - $10
Battier - $10
Marion - $10

Deng - $10
Iguodala - $10
Gerald Wallace - $10
LMA - $10
Rasheed - $10


Went high for the superstars but it's such a clear dropoff, in a regular draft someone's first round pick would be Pierce or something.

We could also do non draft game if we wanted


Something like this would be good for a non-draft game during the lull.
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Post#1934 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:30 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:First draft at pricing for 2009 players over $10, thoughts? ($100 rosters, no FGA)

Spoiler:
Lebron - $70
Dirk - $60
Wade - $60
Kobe - $60
Paul - $60
Dwight - $50
Duncan - $50
Nash - $40
Garnett - $40
Pierce - $30
Billups - $25
Allen - $25
Pau - $25
Roy - $20
Yao - $20
Deron - $20
Parker - $15
Granger - $15
Manu $15
Rashard - $15
Melo - $15
Durant - $15
Bosh - $15
West - $10
Shaq - $10
Amare - $10
Odom - $10
Kidd - $10
Rondo - $10
Vince - $10
Joe - $10
Kevin Martin - $10
Hamilton - $10
Battier - $10
Marion - $10

Deng - $10
Iguodala - $10
Gerald Wallace - $10
LMA - $10
Rasheed - $10


Went high for the superstars but it's such a clear dropoff, in a regular draft someone's first round pick would be Pierce or something.

We could also do non draft game if we wanted


Something like this would be good for a non-draft game during the lull.


I think a simple best 2021 team non draft with FGAs is good enough, ban Giannis?

Actually now that I think of it pricing it and making Giannis stupidly expensive could be interesting.
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Post#1935 » by Laimbeer » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:12 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:First draft at pricing for 2009 players over $10, thoughts? ($100 rosters, no FGA)

Spoiler:
Lebron - $70
Dirk - $60
Wade - $60
Kobe - $60
Paul - $60
Dwight - $50
Duncan - $50
Nash - $40
Garnett - $40
Pierce - $30
Billups - $25
Allen - $25
Pau - $25
Roy - $20
Yao - $20
Deron - $20
Parker - $15
Granger - $15
Manu $15
Rashard - $15
Melo - $15
Durant - $15
Bosh - $15
West - $10
Shaq - $10
Amare - $10
Odom - $10
Kidd - $10
Rondo - $10
Vince - $10
Joe - $10
Kevin Martin - $10
Hamilton - $10
Battier - $10
Marion - $10

Deng - $10
Iguodala - $10
Gerald Wallace - $10
LMA - $10
Rasheed - $10


Went high for the superstars but it's such a clear dropoff, in a regular draft someone's first round pick would be Pierce or something.

We could also do non draft game if we wanted


Something like this would be good for a non-draft game during the lull.


I think a simple best 2021 team non draft with FGAs is good enough, ban Giannis?

Actually now that I think of it pricing it and making Giannis stupidly expensive could be interesting.


I'd prefer 2021. Make Giannis expensive, but only so it's a difficult decision, not to the extent no one even considers it.
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Post#1936 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:30 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Something like this would be good for a non-draft game during the lull.


I think a simple best 2021 team non draft with FGAs is good enough, ban Giannis?

Actually now that I think of it pricing it and making Giannis stupidly expensive could be interesting.


I'd prefer 2021. Make Giannis expensive, but only so it's a difficult decision, not to the extent no one even considers it.

I don't think Giannis needs to be banned or more expensive. There are three or four other players with arguments for best player in 2021.
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Post#1937 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:56 pm

With the current state of affairs, one of those speed drafts with predetermined time slots could be worth a try. A very limited pool like the 2020-21 season would be a good fit.
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Post#1938 » by damecurry » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:43 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
I think a simple best 2021 team non draft with FGAs is good enough, ban Giannis?

Actually now that I think of it pricing it and making Giannis stupidly expensive could be interesting.


I'd prefer 2021. Make Giannis expensive, but only so it's a difficult decision, not to the extent no one even considers it.

I don't think Giannis needs to be banned or more expensive. There are three or four other players with arguments for best player in 2021.

That's what I was thinking.
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Post#1939 » by Laimbeer » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:46 pm

damecurry wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
I'd prefer 2021. Make Giannis expensive, but only so it's a difficult decision, not to the extent no one even considers it.

I don't think Giannis needs to be banned or more expensive. There are three or four other players with arguments for best player in 2021.

That's what I was thinking.


This is the kind of thing that may also attract people who don't play a draft game.
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Post#1940 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:28 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
I think a simple best 2021 team non draft with FGAs is good enough, ban Giannis?

Actually now that I think of it pricing it and making Giannis stupidly expensive could be interesting.


I'd prefer 2021. Make Giannis expensive, but only so it's a difficult decision, not to the extent no one even considers it.

I don't think Giannis needs to be banned or more expensive. There are three or four other players with arguments for best player in 2021.


It's more how far ahead he is of every other PF that makes him the most obvious pick. I guess there there is a Draymond route, though.

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