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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1941 » by League Circles » Fri Apr 3, 2020 10:14 pm

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Habs72 wrote:US hijacks medical shipment at airport supposed to go France by offering triple amount of cash...i cant even say how brutal this is.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests


Well. Sounds like Trump policy. Europe will be healty before US i guess and they will need help pretty soon. And it is not peoples foult who lead them. Well sorry, bacially it is atleast 51% who woted that chimp. Perhaps it won`t happend again???

But Europea is most powerful economic area in the world with or without Britain. Britain is just a little bonus. US needsoon medical help and they should get it. Even what some people do we must help US sooner or later. Seems like we in Finland are doing ok.It can change but now it looks solid. Still long way to go :(



Not even close to 51% voted for Trump because a lot of people here don't vote for one reason or another. It might be closer to 30% actually voted for him.

He got something like 25% of eligible voters.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1942 » by The Box Office » Fri Apr 3, 2020 11:35 pm

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Sorry about your brother in law and his wife, Transplant. This is terrible.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1943 » by The Box Office » Fri Apr 3, 2020 11:38 pm

fleet wrote:So after Gavin Newsome complimented the President, Trump and Co get all complimentary back. I see what Newsome did there. Odds that equipment flows into Cali are all of the sudden very high. Trump is training governors like puppies.


Gavin Newsome is playing the game being smart. That's all. The compliments don't mean anything. I would do the same.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1944 » by HomoSapien » Fri Apr 3, 2020 11:56 pm

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


I'm very sorry to hear this, transplant. Hoping he pulls through and you and your wife stay safe and healthy.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1945 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 4, 2020 1:26 am

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).


I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


So sorry Transplant. That’s so tough. Hoping for the best for you.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1946 » by Mbrahv0528 » Sat Apr 4, 2020 2:47 am

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fleet wrote:So after Gavin Newsome complimented the President, Trump and Co get all complimentary back. I see what Newsome did there. Odds that equipment flows into Cali are all of the sudden very high. Trump is training governors like puppies.


Gavin Newsome is playing the game being smart. That's all. The compliments don't mean anything. I would do the same.
Yup. We are in survival mode now, he's doing what he has to to protect the people of his State.

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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1947 » by dice » Sat Apr 4, 2020 3:04 am

trump says all voting in november should be in person w/ ID presented. of course, he has no say in the matter
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1948 » by musiqsoulchild » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:05 am

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Hear you loud and clear brother. Hang in there. They will pull through.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1949 » by robert76 » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:33 am

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Everyone here is rooting for you and your family!
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1950 » by BigUps » Sat Apr 4, 2020 11:54 am

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.

Sorry to read this Transplant. Had a similar situation with my Aunt and she pulled through. I hope your brother-in-law does the same.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1951 » by dougthonus » Sat Apr 4, 2020 2:18 pm

transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Good luck to your brother-in-law, I hope he's able to recover.

My friend's dad was also ~83 (I know in his mid-80s) and got this and went on a ventilator, and he just got taken off a couple days ago and looks like he will pull through. I know every case is different, and I know this isn't good, but keep up hope.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1952 » by transplant » Sat Apr 4, 2020 2:21 pm

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transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


It is tough when you can't even visit them. Did he catch it in the hospital he was being treated at?

Most likely he caught it at the rehab center.

Thanks to everyone for your kind wishes. I just got off the phone with one of my other sisters who told me that my brother-in-law was able to take a break from the ventilator and speak to his wife on the phone for 8 minutes. That may not sound like a big deal, but it completely changes my mental picture of their reality. Obviously, the situation is still very serious, but not as dire as I had imagined.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1953 » by coldfish » Sat Apr 4, 2020 2:30 pm

transplant wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:
transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


It is tough when you can't even visit them. Did he catch it in the hospital he was being treated at?

Most likely he caught it at the rehab center.

Thanks to everyone for your kind wishes. I just got off the phone with one of my other sisters who told me that my brother-in-law was able to take a break from the ventilator and speak to his wife on the phone for 8 minutes. That may not sound like a big deal, but it completely changes my mental picture of their reality. Obviously, the situation is still very serious, but not as dire as I had imagined.


Based on everything I am reading, that is a huge positive sign. Good luck transplant.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1954 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 4, 2020 2:51 pm

This is a bit scary to think about when you read about an actual plan to end the pandemic. “Moon shot.”

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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1955 » by Dresden » Sat Apr 4, 2020 3:46 pm

dice wrote:trump says all voting in november should be in person w/ ID presented. of course, he has no say in the matter


Of course, and he also said that if he went along with allowing more people to vote via absentee ballots or allow earlier voting (as democrats wanted to provide for in the stimulus bill), "republicans would never win another election". That says a lot about our democracy I think- when one party knows that the key to it's success is suppressing voter turnout.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1956 » by Dresden » Sat Apr 4, 2020 3:47 pm

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transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Good luck to your brother-in-law, I hope he's able to recover.

My friend's dad was also ~83 (I know in his mid-80s) and got this and went on a ventilator, and he just got taken off a couple days ago and looks like he will pull through. I know every case is different, and I know this isn't good, but keep up hope.


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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#1957 » by Mech Engineer » Sat Apr 4, 2020 4:38 pm

Dresden wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
transplant wrote:My brother-in-law tested positive. He's 83 years old. He had been hospitalized for back/leg problems and was then sent to a rehab center where the test was taken. He was transferred back to the hospital with pneumonia and is on a ventilator. It doesn't look good.

**** just got real for me. My sister (his wife) got tested on Wednesday, but we won't know til next week (I guess the new quick tests are still on the shelf...****).

I wish I could find someone who I could hold responsible so I could kick the **** out of him. Instead, I'm just going to swallow this **** hard.


Good luck to your brother-in-law, I hope he's able to recover.

My friend's dad was also ~83 (I know in his mid-80s) and got this and went on a ventilator, and he just got taken off a couple days ago and looks like he will pull through. I know every case is different, and I know this isn't good, but keep up hope.


Glad to hear that Doug!


That's great to hear especially older folks recovering. As important as their recovery is, it's also the hope and cheer they bring to the society is invaluable. The world needs a lot of healing right now and good news is a great boost to the general mental health of many people.
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Post#1958 » by Dresden » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:42 pm

The Payroll Protection Program had a shaky rollout yesterday. It's a great concept- it gives business with fewer than 500 employees a loan that will turn into a grant that will cover up to 8 weeks of payroll (provided they don't fire anyone in the meantime). Yesterday was the first day you could apply, and a lot of people, myself included, experienced difficulty finding a lender. You have to go through a private lending institution, normally your bank. But Bank of America required you to not only have a business checking account with them, but also a business line of credit, or a credit card. I had the first but not the second. As did many other business owners. So we were automatically deemed ineligible when we went to apply on line. It was very frustrating. I've been with B of A for over 25 years. And there was nobody to turn to- other banks told people to go to where they normally bank, and B of A was not taking any phone calls on the subject, and you couldn't go into a branch to apply or even speak with somebody. It all was run through the website.

Needless to say, there were a lot of pissed off people. The NYT ran a story on it, specifically calling out B of A, as did the Wall Street Journal. Many anecdotes of business owners driving around for hours, from one lender to another, looking for a way to apply. The phone lines of all major banks were jammed beyond capacity. And everyone was worried that the money (349 Billion of it) would run out before they got their applications in. Quite a sh*t show. I emailed my rep in Congress and both senators, as well as the SBA, as I'm sure many others did. Marco Rubio, to his credit, called out B of A on his twitter account, saying that there was nothing in the law they wrote that required anyone to have a credit card with a bank before getting a loan of this type.

In any case, I'm glad to report that all the pressure forced B of A to change it's tune, and this morning I got through on their website and got my application in. It's a huge deal- my 14 employees now don't have to worry about what they are supposed to do for food, rent, bills, etc, at least for the next 2 months. I feel relieved, too, because I was telling them we'd find a way to cover them, and now that burden is gone. IF my loan gets approved. Still a big IF, but I'm hopeful.

if this does work out, I'll give our govt. a big clap on the back- this program is really going to be a lifeline for many businesses and their employees, and allow us to safely shelter in place instead of having to think about trying to sneak in some work here and there to keep ourselves afloat.
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Post#1959 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:39 pm

This is what I’ve been bracing for in less fortunate countries. Sadly, so much for coming too.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas/guayaquil-ecuador-overwhelmed-coronavirus-intl/index.html
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Post#1960 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:47 pm

Dresden wrote:The Payroll Protection Program had a shaky rollout yesterday. It's a great concept- it gives business with fewer than 500 employees a loan that will turn into a grant that will cover up to 8 weeks of payroll (provided they don't fire anyone in the meantime). Yesterday was the first day you could apply, and a lot of people, myself included, experienced difficulty finding a lender. You have to go through a private lending institution, normally your bank. But Bank of America required you to not only have a business checking account with them, but also a business line of credit, or a credit card. I had the first but not the second. As did many other business owners. So we were automatically deemed ineligible when we went to apply on line. It was very frustrating. I've been with B of A for over 25 years. And there was nobody to turn to- other banks told people to go to where they normally bank, and B of A was not taking any phone calls on the subject, and you couldn't go into a branch to apply or even speak with somebody. It all was run through the website.

Needless to say, there were a lot of pissed off people. The NYT ran a story on it, specifically calling out B of A, as did the Wall Street Journal. Many anecdotes of business owners driving around for hours, from one lender to another, looking for a way to apply. The phone lines of all major banks were jammed beyond capacity. And everyone was worried that the money (349 Billion of it) would run out before they got their applications in. Quite a sh*t show. I emailed my rep in Congress and both senators, as well as the SBA, as I'm sure many others did. Marco Rubio, to his credit, called out B of A on his twitter account, saying that there was nothing in the law they wrote that required anyone to have a credit card with a bank before getting a loan of this type.

In any case, I'm glad to report that all the pressure forced B of A to change it's tune, and this morning I got through on their website and got my application in. It's a huge deal- my 14 employees now don't have to worry about what they are supposed to do for food, rent, bills, etc, at least for the next 2 months. I feel relieved, too, because I was telling them we'd find a way to cover them, and now that burden is gone. IF my loan gets approved. Still a big IF, but I'm hopeful.

if this does work out, I'll give our govt. a big clap on the back- this program is really going to be a lifeline for many businesses and their employees, and allow us to safely shelter in place instead of having to think about trying to sneak in some work here and there to keep ourselves afloat.


Has B of A ever had requirements like those if you had to take loans out for your business. I wonder how much of this was to bend business owners to sign up for products to collect fees etc...
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