Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs. (7) Brooklyn Nets

[celtxman]

One thing about the KD played bad narrative, then why didn't the Nets win when he played better in the 2nd half?

Because it was tied at half

He shot 2-10 in the first half with multiple TOs but his 2nd half wasn't as bad 7-14 with fewer TOs.

Kyrie also played better in the 2nd half then his first half with 24 of his 39 came in the 2nd half.

I was waiting to see something like this before posting it myself. Bottom line I don't think you can draw much from this in terms of who wins the series. The best thing for the Celtics is that they won a close game against ANYBODY. It could have been the Hornets. Their story this season was losing a bunch of close games against good and bad teams, then they figured it out and won a bunch of games that weren't competitive.

[Feed Your Head]

Kyrie and Tatum were insane going ISO yesterday lol.

[Jaqua92]

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Tatum defended Durant for 38 possessions (Jaylen, Al, and Smart combined for 27 possessions on KD). In those 38 possessions, Durant had 4 points on 2-6 shooting, with 4 turnovers and a blocked shot. No assists in that time either, since they didn’t have to over help.

Kyrie went 3-4 against Tatum, 3-3 against Jaylen, and 3-5 against Theis.

So basically no one could stop Kyrie, and as we discussed, Tatum guarded KD exceptionally well, and for more posessions than anyone else combined.

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[Jaqua92]

After thinking on it...I think Celtics win game 2 in a blow out. KD shot 50% in the second half, Kyrie went off, and they were still outscored in the 2nd half.

The likelyhood of Kyrie going off like that is low, KD probably plays better in game 2.

White was uncharacteristically bad and Jaylen probably could improve as he was bad for 3 quarters. Smart was great.

I think the Celtics have more to clean up from game 1, and looked quite rusty. It took a Kyrie explosion and an average 2nd half from KD just to keep the game close against a Celtics team that struggled to do it offensively.

Celtics have a higher ceiling of effectiveness, I get it now. And they're still without Rob.

Celtics win game 2 by 20.

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[sam_I_am]

I think Kyrie explained himself to reporters who weren’t really interested in what he was saying. His actions weren’t hostile but rather he was feeding off the energy of the building and giving it back. He doesn’t feel bad about his vulgar reactions because it was directed back at those sending negativity his way, so he says.

I honestly think that for him it was entirely about him accepting the negativity directed at him in order to fuel his performance which was truly incredible.

I don’t like the guy. I think he is self absorbed, narcissistic and treats those around him with disdain. I think he has a pattern of clashing with the people most admired in a given organization like Lebron, Brad Stevens and Ainge, Kenny Atkinson.

That said, although I think he will get fined for his actions because they were unprofessional, I believe he was simply going where he needed to go to bring out his best. In doing so, he has already helped elevate this series to the most ‘Must Watch’ sporting event there is right now.

[celtxman]

Celtics need to do a better job with fans using slur words against opponents. Most of the time they deal with those fans, but at this game they just let them say whatever they wanted. I don't know if that is a coincidence. According to NBA, you are not allowed to yell "F U" to a player. That can get you tossed from a game, though usually you get away with a warning for the first offense. There were no warnings given at this game.

ALL fans ought to stop this. We watched a whole arena in unison say F#$÷ Trey Young in New York. Wonder what would have been said if the exact same thing happened to Young in Boston. In NY or many other cities it's called "passionate" in Boston we use the word "slur."

[Jaqua92]

I think Kyrie explained himself to reporters who weren’t really interested in what he was saying. His actions weren’t hostile but rather he was feeding off the energy of the building and giving it back. He doesn’t feel bad about his vulgar reactions because it was directed back at those sending negativity his way, so he says.

I honestly think that for him it was entirely about him accepting the negativity directed at him in order to fuel his performance which was truly incredible.

I don’t like the guy. I think he is self absorbed, narcissistic and treats those around him with disdain. I think he has a pattern of clashing with the people most admired in a given organization like Lebron, Brad Stevens and Ainge, Kenny Atkinson.

That said, although I think he will get fined for his actions because they were unprofessional, I believe he was simply going where he needed to go to bring out his best. In doing so, he has already helped elevate this series to the most ‘Must Watch’ sporting event there is right now.

I agree. Why resist the environment. He's saying that he wasn't taking the crowds behavior as hostile.

It just blows my mind that he can't give a "I get why they're upset" comment.



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[Jadoogar]

That Celtics final play was a thing of f'n beauty.


Sick game.

I think this was all on KD man, he got caught checking the score board in the most important moment and lost his man completely. And from his body language, he knows it too. Just look what he does between 2:40 and 2:50

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KD's fatal mistake was he took a quick look at the clock and got caught flat-footed as Tatum slipped past him, which I don't really blame him for. He must have been thinking why the clock hadn't run out yet, that last play felt like it took forever to develop.

Durant was guarding 2 guys at the top of the key, it was a pick your poison kind of decision. Not to mention fantastic cut by tatum and read by Smart.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't get the butthurt about Kyrie talking **** to Boston fans.

I personally don't have a problem with them booing Kyrie. I would probably hate Kyrie if I was a Celtics fan too.

But don't dish out what you can't take back. Kyrie was this close to owning Boston and shutting everyone up.

[Slax]

Celtics need to do a better job with fans using slur words against opponents. Most of the time they deal with those fans, but at this game they just let them say whatever they wanted. I don't know if that is a coincidence. According to NBA, you are not allowed to yell "F U" to a player. That can get you tossed from a game, though usually you get away with a warning for the first offense. There were no warnings given at this game.

Not seen any video of what you're alleging, but I'm sure you have proof since you're putting it out there
There is video being circulated, however, of a fan yelling, "Kyrie, you suck," and Kyrie responding with, "Suck my dick, bitch".
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kyrie-irving-shouted-expletives-at-a-celtics-fan-on-his-way-to-the-locker-room/ar-AAWjhPa?cvid=ef4458c84f8644d2aff8ec3bb307d812
Based on how sensitive you are about rude and foul language, I'm assuming you believe Kyrie should have been kicked out of the arena for that too, right?
Or we could all stop acting so sensitive. Racist taunts, threats, etc. obviously should not be tolerated, but other than that there is no reason to clutch pearls here (though the article makes the claim that Kyrie's remark was both homophobic and sexist, so there is that).
Even Kyrie in his post-game presser said he doesn't really care about the heckling. He just feeds off the energy and enjoys giving it back (and I respect him for saying that, not trying to get fans booted for basic heckling like Westbrook or some of these other softies in the league do).
I know you're salty about the loss but be more like your boy Kyrie and embrace the dark side. Let the hate and the heckling flow through you

I was at the game, so I am not talking based on videos. And it wasn't just about Kyrie, there were "FU" directed to other players as well. Normally they are dealt with, but today they were not.
These are NBA rules, especially for seats close to the court/tunnel and they are really enforcing those rules for those seats.
Nobody is salty. it's just a game that doesn't affect your life, grow up and enjoy it.

"Slurs" are words used for targeted bigotry, for example against a racial group. I think maybe you just mean "swear" or something.

[Slax]

I don't get the butthurt about Kyrie talking **** to Boston fans.

I personally don't have a problem with them booing Kyrie. I would probably hate Kyrie if I was a Celtics fan too.

But don't dish out what you can't take back. Kyrie was this close to owning Boston and shutting everyone up.

Frankly I enjoy that Kyrie obviously wants to be our villain and acts accordingly. Personally I found him flipping off and swearing at fans hilarious.

[Pachinko_]

I think this was all on KD man, he got caught checking the score board in the most important moment and lost his man completely. And from his body language, he knows it too. Just look what he does between 2:40 and 2:50

Watch on YouTube

KD's fatal mistake was he took a quick look at the clock and got caught flat-footed as Tatum slipped past him, which I don't really blame him for. He must have been thinking why the clock hadn't run out yet, that last play felt like it took forever to develop.

Durant was guarding 2 guys at the top of the key, it was a pick your poison kind of decision. Not to mention fantastic cut by tatum and read by Smart.

Yeah sure, but when you're guarding 2 guys and you have to make a decision the correct answer is never "Ima stand here and do nothing" LOL
He just got distracted for a crucial moment, that's all. It happens.

[G R E Y]

Kyrie and Tatum were insane going ISO yesterday lol.

Mitchell ISO though... OOF!

[DaeDae]

KD's fatal mistake was he took a quick look at the clock and got caught flat-footed as Tatum slipped past him, which I don't really blame him for. He must have been thinking why the clock hadn't run out yet, that last play felt like it took forever to develop.

Durant was guarding 2 guys at the top of the key, it was a pick your poison kind of decision. Not to mention fantastic cut by tatum and read by Smart.

Yeah sure, but when you're guarding 2 guys and you have to make a decision the correct answer is never "Ima stand here and do nothing" LOL
He just got distracted for a crucial moment, that's all. It happens.

Agreed. I have a MUCH bigger issue with the layup they gave on the possession before the final one. That was a TRASH defensive possession, and in my view, THATS where they lost the game.

[Hsker4Life]

I don’t mind Kyrie giving it to Celtics fans at all. I don’t think most people do. But his whining during the presser after the game was annoying.

[Slax]

Can't get past that you actually think it's acceptable to punch another fan for insulting a player on a team you like as long as it's "in the heat of the moment".

No that's the predictable bit. The acceptable is for insults directly to your person.

I believe what he's saying (and Slax, correct me if I'm wrong) is that the idea of it being acceptable to punch someone secondary to insults when you're a paid professional is a little much. What two folks outside of a bar wanna do after someone mouths off too much is maybe one thing, but for $33 million, Kyrie really ought to shut the hell up and play basketball and let the league handle it.

Frankly I think any violence in a sports arena is bad, players or fans. If someone is being **** to you, use your words or call security. There are families at these games, millions of people watching on TV. A little swearing or flipping the bird isn't going to traumatize a kid (although I personally wouldn't do it), but a fight could leave someone seriously injured and sets a horrible example. While I do agree players should be held to higher standards than fans, "He swore at me so I punched him" should be treated seriously (lifetime ban, possible prosecution if it could have resulted in serious injury) even from fans.

I'm not really a fan of people starting bar fights over insults either, I like to think violence is only for self defense, but yeah at least if that sort of behavior is going to happen, it's better if it's isolated to an untelevised venue with only adults.

Anyway none of this matters because thankfully - to the best of my knowledge - there was NOT any violence, just some vulgar language and gestures, which isn't that big a deal imo. If they punish Kyrie I hope it's no more than the tiniest of token fines.

[Jadoogar]

Durant was guarding 2 guys at the top of the key, it was a pick your poison kind of decision. Not to mention fantastic cut by tatum and read by Smart.

Yeah sure, but when you're guarding 2 guys and you have to make a decision the correct answer is never "Ima stand here and do nothing" LOL
He just got distracted for a crucial moment, that's all. It happens.

Agreed. I have a MUCH bigger issue with the layup they gave on the possession before the final one. That was a TRASH defensive possession, and in my view, THATS where they lost the game.

Absolutely, way too easy for Brown and gave away an easy 2 for 1

[Pachinko_]

No that's the predictable bit. The acceptable is for insults directly to your person.

I believe what he's saying (and Slax, correct me if I'm wrong) is that the idea of it being acceptable to punch someone secondary to insults when you're a paid professional is a little much. What two folks outside of a bar wanna do after someone mouths off too much is maybe one thing, but for $33 million, Kyrie really ought to shut the hell up and play basketball and let the league handle it.

Frankly I think any violence in a sports arena is bad, players or fans. If someone is being **** to you, use your words or call security. There are families at these games, millions of people watching on TV. A little swearing or flipping the bird isn't going to traumatize a kid (although I personally wouldn't do it), but a fight could leave someone seriously injured and sets a horrible example. While I do agree players should be held to higher standards than fans, "He swore at me so I punched him" should be treated seriously (lifetime ban, possible prosecution if it could have resulted in serious injury) even from fans.

I'm not really a fan of people starting bar fights over insults either, I like to think violence is only for self defense, but yeah at least if that sort of behavior is going to happen, it's better if it's isolated to an untelevised venue with only adults.

Anyway none of this matters because thankfully - to the best of my knowledge - there was NOT any violence, just some vulgar language and gestures, which isn't that big a deal imo. If they punish Kyrie I hope it's no more than the tiniest of token fines.

I think you're lucky because NBA fans don't travel in an organised manner, it's just not in the culture, the distances are too great and it gets too expensive. But at their core fans are fans, no better or worse than other countries and sports where you have real violence. Mix them together, give them enough beer and eventually someone will start something.

Just keep the fans apart and you don't really need to worry about anything, whatever isolated incidents you have in the NBA is basically nothing. Super family-friendly league. Real problems start when you see a convoy of buses with opposition fans pulling up at the arena, all under 30 and full of pills. Just never gonna happen in America

[Slax]

I believe what he's saying (and Slax, correct me if I'm wrong) is that the idea of it being acceptable to punch someone secondary to insults when you're a paid professional is a little much. What two folks outside of a bar wanna do after someone mouths off too much is maybe one thing, but for $33 million, Kyrie really ought to shut the hell up and play basketball and let the league handle it.

Frankly I think any violence in a sports arena is bad, players or fans. If someone is being **** to you, use your words or call security. There are families at these games, millions of people watching on TV. A little swearing or flipping the bird isn't going to traumatize a kid (although I personally wouldn't do it), but a fight could leave someone seriously injured and sets a horrible example. While I do agree players should be held to higher standards than fans, "He swore at me so I punched him" should be treated seriously (lifetime ban, possible prosecution if it could have resulted in serious injury) even from fans.

I'm not really a fan of people starting bar fights over insults either, I like to think violence is only for self defense, but yeah at least if that sort of behavior is going to happen, it's better if it's isolated to an untelevised venue with only adults.

Anyway none of this matters because thankfully - to the best of my knowledge - there was NOT any violence, just some vulgar language and gestures, which isn't that big a deal imo. If they punish Kyrie I hope it's no more than the tiniest of token fines.

I think you're lucky because NBA fans don't travel in an organised manner, it's just not in the culture, the distances are too great and it gets too expensive. But at their core fans are fans, no better or worse than other countries and sports where you have real violence. Mix them together, give them enough beer and eventually someone will start something.

I'm not trying to do a deep dive into the root cause of hooliganism and violence in sporting events, not insulting cultures where it happens, not making broad social commentary. I'm just saying I consider any actual acts of sports-related violence themselves to be unacceptable, and would like them to be punished if/when they happen, whereas I don't care as much about insults and swearing and would rather let them slide unless they reach the level of offensive slurs or threats.

Just keep the fans apart and you don't really need to worry about anything, whatever isolated incidents you have in the NBA is basically nothing. Super family-friendly league.

Yes, and I want to keep it that way.

[DaeDae]

Yeah sure, but when you're guarding 2 guys and you have to make a decision the correct answer is never "Ima stand here and do nothing" LOL
He just got distracted for a crucial moment, that's all. It happens.

Agreed. I have a MUCH bigger issue with the layup they gave on the possession before the final one. That was a TRASH defensive possession, and in my view, THATS where they lost the game.

Absolutely, way too easy for Brown and gave away an easy 2 for 1

I've seen elite 5th grade youth basketball players get benched for that, at 11 years old. They didn't even TRY to put up resistance.