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Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

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Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

Okafor
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Towns
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1961 » by Worm Guts » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:09 am

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Grits n Gravy wrote:The more I've thought about it I've come around and flipped Porzingis and Okafor in my big board, I'd rather take him at #1 than Okafor.


I wouldn't do that, all your doing is setting yourself up for a bigger disappointment, you know Porzingis isn't likely an top at #1. :lol:


We could very well end up with Porzingis but that is because a team few spots below us offers an acceptable package for our #1 pick. Will have no problems taking on the European KG. :lol:


I'd bet a lot of money that won't happen. If we don't end up with Towns or Okafor I'd be shocked.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1962 » by Murphs56 » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:24 am

The way all this stuff sounds you would think Flip is the only guy debating this selection. I'm sure in the room there will be the Okafor supporters and Towns supporters. Everyone will make their arguments using film, stats, etc and an informed decision will be made lol
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1963 » by Calinks » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:37 am

I feel like a lot of the Flip likes Okafor more talk is Flip smoke screening. Maybe he's trying to drum up a trade, maybe he just likes messing with people. That's not to say Flip doesn't really like Okafor but I doubt he seems him as the guy barring something extreme from Tows.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1964 » by Worm Guts » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:49 am

I'm not sure what the benefit of pretending he likes Okafor would be, maybe it would encourage more offers if teams believe we're willing to pass on Towns. I tend to think he really likes him though.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1965 » by AQuintus » Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:58 am

I feel like a lot of the Flip likes Okafor more talk is just the media echo chamber regurgitating the tiny amount of information that they have, even if it's months old.
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Post#1966 » by Saltine » Sun Jun 7, 2015 4:02 am

Walters does have the best connection with Glen Taylor of all our local scribes, so he may know what's up in this particular case. Glen did give him the exclusive on the Wiggins/Love deal and pissed of the StarTribune (Minneapolis paper) guys quite a bit, as he'd just bought their paper then given the scoop to the PioneerPress (St.Paul's paper). :lol:
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Post#1967 » by Hogified05 » Sun Jun 7, 2015 4:22 am

I think either guy you end up with will team up with Wiggins for a long contention run. Good for you guys been crummy ever since KG left.

That's why I don't get this lack of either of them wanting to play for Minnesota. I mean look I am sure at 19 years old both of them would prefer to go play in LA for the Lakers, who the hell wouldn't, it's freaking LA. But they gotta realize playing with Wiggins (who I feel is a future MVP) would be a hell of a 1-2 punch. You would think that would be very appealing as well. As long as you win in the NBA you are going making a bunch of money and will be famous. You can live in LA in the offseason. I mean KD is the 2nd biggest draw in the NBA and he is in damn OKC.

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Post#1968 » by m2002brian » Sun Jun 7, 2015 4:22 am

My guess is a lot of media (and possibly other team management) trolling. #1 pick = DownTowns (R) and Rubio is not going anywhere.
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Post#1969 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 4:40 am

Calinks wrote:I feel like a lot of the Flip likes Okafor more talk is Flip smoke screening. Maybe he's trying to drum up a trade, maybe he just likes messing with people. That's not to say Flip doesn't really like Okafor but I doubt he seems him as the guy barring something extreme from Tows.

Here's what I think:

Before and during the season, much of the consensus was that Okafor was the guy. With Flip's coaching duties, he didn't have much of an opportunity to watch either. The one time he saw Towns in the NCAA Tournament, Towns had a yawner of a game (1 pt, 2 reb in 13 min) and it didn't affect the outcome at all. Usually, if a player who's supposed to be that impactful has that bad of a game, his team should struggle, not win by 39.

I think that's why it's taken Flip longer to make a change atop his draft board. His only time watching him in person was a bad game. But once he watches Towns work out, I think he'll see that Karl-Anthony oozes potential.
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Post#1970 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 5:34 am

I think one of the greatest things Towns can bring to Minnesota is his versatility. We don't have to change anything or make sure he's only on the court with a certain player. I think he'll be able to play next to Garnett, Pekovic, Dieng, Payne, Bennett, and Hummel at either PF or C. That's something you definitely cannot say about Okafor. Not only that, but he can space the floor, opening room for Wiggins and Muhammad, etc., to post up or cut to the basket. He's also a good enough passer that you can run high/low action with him.

I know I'm late to the party on Towns, and these are all things that you have probably tried to tell me about his game. Sometimes I have to wait a while to let a player's full ability sink in. I remember a year ago, I didn't warm up to Teddy Bridgewater as an NFL quarterback until right before the draft. But the more footage I watched, the more I fell in love with him. I think that's the case with Towns here. During the season, there weren't a lot of good videos of Towns on Youtube. And as a cord-cutter, I can't really watch him on TV, so that's where I do most of my "scouting." As the videos roll in and I see the full scope of his skillset, I am really getting intrigued.
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Post#1971 » by Feilong » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:12 am

AQuintus wrote:I feel like a lot of the Flip likes Okafor more talk is just the media echo chamber regurgitating the tiny amount of information that they have, even if it's months old.


I think Flip genuinely likes Okafor more, he reminds him 90's basketball which he favors but when 95% of the basketball world tells you that Towns is the better choice for x,y,z, reasons then you have to reconsider everything.

I hope Flip feels the pressure, especially from the fans, to choose Towns because he can become the anchor for the next decade.
He can/should watch every player, say to media any misdirection he likes. Just when the moment comes, pick the better player.

What i would like is when he (hopefully) brings Towns and Okafor for a workout is to have a big guy like KG or Dieng or even Payne to workout with each of them. That's when Towns virtues will be highlighted. 1 on 0 gives you so little information.

Mudiay's release is so slow, reminds me of Ricky's release of 2 years ago.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1972 » by Murphs56 » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:29 am

Feilong wrote:
AQuintus wrote:I feel like a lot of the Flip likes Okafor more talk is just the media echo chamber regurgitating the tiny amount of information that they have, even if it's months old.


I think Flip genuinely likes Okafor more, he reminds him 90's basketball which he favors but when 95% of the basketball world tells you that Towns is the better choice for x,y,z, reasons then you have to reconsider everything.

I hope Flip feels the pressure, especially from the fans, to choose Towns because he can become the anchor for the next decade.
He can/should watch every player, say to media any misdirection he likes. Just when the moment comes, pick the better player.

What i would like is when he (hopefully) brings Towns and Okafor for a workout is to have a big guy like KG or Dieng or even Payne to workout with each of them. That's when Towns virtues will be highlighted. 1 on 0 gives you so little information.

Mudiay's release is so slow, reminds me of Ricky's release of 2 years ago.


I'm opposed to Flip going with Towns because the fans and media are calling for it. I'm hopeful that after due diligence, all the tape watched, interviews, workouts etc., he finds Towns to be the better choice.
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Post#1973 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 6:38 am

Murphs56 wrote:I'm opposed to Flip going with Towns because the fans and media are calling for it. I'm hopeful that after due diligence, all the tape watched, interviews, workouts etc., he finds Towns to be the better choice.

Seriously!

Making a decision because of fan pressure is the worst way to run an organization.
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Post#1974 » by Feilong » Sun Jun 7, 2015 7:17 am

Murphs56 wrote:I'm opposed to Flip going with Towns because the fans and media are calling for it. I'm hopeful that after due diligence, all the tape watched, interviews, workouts etc., he finds Towns to be the better choice.


That's the case when you have a good GM, that has a plan and has a good track record.
When your GM has made so many bad decisions and when it's obvious that Towns is the better fit + player then fans should speak their mind and let Flip know what they think.
We already had a GM who thought he was smarter than the rest, although everybody else disagreed with him.
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Post#1975 » by Klomp » Sun Jun 7, 2015 7:38 am

Feilong wrote:We already had a GM who thought he was smarter than the rest, although everybody else disagreed with him.
You remember Kahn? Remember his thoughts about e.g. Milicic? Remember his draft choices?

Everyone doesn't disagree with Flip. You're one of the only ones.

Fan pressure results in things like drafting CJ McCollum instead of trading down for Shabazz Muhammad and Gorgui Dieng. Which would you rather have today?
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Post#1976 » by wildvikeswolves » Sun Jun 7, 2015 8:24 am

The only thing Media has to judge off of is Flip saying a loooong time ago that he loves Okafor. Yes Flip saw Towns worst performance in person, but at the end of the day Flip is gonna see every single highlight that we see. He's also gonna see them workout in person and he's gonna end up picking the better big guy. He hasn't ONLY seen the bad Towns game in person. In the end, he's gonna see every minute of each guys game.
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Post#1977 » by TRKO » Sun Jun 7, 2015 8:30 am

To me Towns' versatility to play next to our current bigs isn't a selling point. To me our current bigs are irrelevant. If we pick Towns I think he should be plugged into the 5 and left there. Let him learn the position and grow. I don't think Pek can be a starter in the league and stay healthy, and I'm not sure Dieng is going to be a starting caliber player anyways. I think he will be a very good rotational bench big. I think Towns' versatility could be a factor a few years down the road, but next year I would rather we stick him at the 5 and let him learn it.
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Post#1978 » by packforfreedom » Sun Jun 7, 2015 8:55 am

TRKO wrote:To me Towns' versatility to play next to our current bigs isn't a selling point. To me our current bigs are irrelevant. If we pick Towns I think he should be plugged into the 5 and left there. Let him learn the position and grow. I don't think Pek can be a starter in the league and stay healthy, and I'm not sure Dieng is going to be a starting caliber player anyways. I think he will be a very good rotational bench big. I think Towns' versatility could be a factor a few years down the road, but next year I would rather we stick him at the 5 and let him learn it.


to our current bigs, yes. But Towns will give us much more flexibiltily with our future bigs, since he can coexist with almost everybody. Okafor on the other hand need someone like KG, a good defender (esp. pick and roll and help), rim protector, who has the range to hit at least mid range jumpers.

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