Offseason Thread: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

[Starksfor3]

god damn golden state with their shady medical team, we were gonna be contenders. now we're out here f*cking everything that walks without a condom and saying "f*ck it, what's the worse that could happen."

+10000

It's called being a Knick fan. You should have known when things started looking good for us. The Knicks need to get some ritualistic cleansing done to cleanse their eternal bad juju.

I thought that happened when we picked Ewing to rep us at the lottery.

Naw, Jim Dolan needs to get on some "My name is Earl" ish and start making up for all the wrong stuff he's ever done. Start with making up with Oakley and quitting music for good.

[F N 11]

The plan was and has always been KD & Kyrie....

Stay Woke Peeps!!!!

I’m starting to think things turning around. The Nets being peddled into rumors to take the heat off the Knicks tampering

[VirginiaKnickFan]

It's just common sense that every team will want to see records. Its possible the records show that Durant has a torn achillies.

They have to fill up hours of nonsense before free agency even starts so have to hype everything up as breaking news from sources

Since the Net's doctor performed the surgery, they obviously are clued into the specifics of KD's achilles.

[robillionaire]

"The Golden State Warriors aren't seriously exploring the possibility of a delayed sign-and-trade of Kevin Durant.

There has been speculation in the media that the Warriors could sign Durant to a five-year, $221 million contract with the understanding that they trade him to his preferred destination at a later date. Durant will almost certainly miss the entire 19-20 season recovering from his Achilles injury.

For the Warriors, the path would be perilous due to the possibility of a CBA circumvention issue as well as expensive and internally awkward."

so we can put the psychotic idea of giving them assets to bed now

[Starksfor3]

Time for Rich Kleiman to show his colors.

If he allows Durant to sign with the Nets, he should be perma-banned from the Garden.

[Cookies4Life]

Seeing some of these posts make me realize a lot of posters weren't interested in a true rebuild, they're still wanting to go after big names even though there are huge red flags associated in this situation.

It's disheartening to see how many people here are so impatient and are just dying for injured 30 something year olds to take up over 30% of our salary cap.

Signing Durant would be one of the dumbest, dumbest moves this franchise has made in the history of their existence. I've been watching them since the 80's so I'm well aware of the ineptitude of this franchise.

[SelbyCobra]

Something's going to happen soon where someone with concrete info is going to come out and make all the "news" of the past week or so look stupid in retrospect. There's nothing real or solid out there right now, and anyone buying into the misdirection - intentional or not - being thrown around is going to have their mind blown when real facts start rolling in.

Until then.

[BBALLER4FR]

the problem with the Melo trade wasnt necessarily the assets given up it was the fact that Melo wasnt that good.

Trier, DS JR and Knox for Kevin Durant is an lol no brainer.

No brainer? When he'll be 32, coming off an Achilles tear and entering a 5 year max contract? You serious? And this is exactly like the Melo situation where Durant has every opportunity to come here, no strings attached but wanted the extra year and few extra dollars which causes NY to unnecessarily give back assets. This can be avoided if he'd just come here as a UFA. Instead, he'd be asking us to unnecessarily pony up for his services and you'd be cool with that. This is worse because we have no idea what Durant we'd be overpaying for and, like most players, they don't give a $#!t about the Knicks situation. You'd have to have no brains to place yourself behind that kind of ticking time bomb so I guess you're right...it WOULD be a lol no-brainer. Let him stay in GS if I have to max him with the 5th year, give up players and pray his old ass heals like a young buck after one of the worst injuries a basketball player can sustain. Sheesh.

I'd be cool with it because your proposal was for Trier, whos a replacement level player/undersized guard who holds the ball too much, Knox who was awful last season and Dennis Smith JR who is a borderline NBA player right now. Stop overrating the Knicks talent, there's a reason why they won 17 games. Kevin Durant at 32 off an injury is worth more than those 3 players combined and then some.

I'm not cool with it because outside of Mitchell Robinson, those 3 guys are the best players on the Knicks roster despite your attempt to minimize their talent level/fit. Dotson/Frank...how do you hand over our most productive assets and leave the disappointment that is Frank out when all we're talking about is a S&T just to get a guy who appears to want to move on from GS his extra year? No, you hand over your higher valued assets so we can REALLY SUCK next season while KD sits. The ONLY possible justification I could find for including Knox DSRj is moving their salary in the trade offsets about $9mil of KD's incoming salary, but why wouldn't you also add Frank's useless $5mil?

[Knick4Real]

It's just common sense that every team will want to see records. Its possible the records show that Durant has a torn achillies.

They have to fill up hours of nonsense before free agency even starts so have to hype everything up as breaking news from sources

Since the Net's doctor performed the surgery, they obviously are clued into the specifics of KD's achilles.

No doctor can discuss a patient's medicals without their permission -- even if he is the team doctor.

[god shammgod]

you can stop arguing about who to include in the sign and trade because it's already been shot down

[Cookies4Life]

Time for Rich Kleiman to show his colors.

If he allows Durant to sign with the Nets, he should be perma-banned from the Garden.

On the contrary, he should receive courtside tickets for the rest of his life.

I'm appalled at these posts I'm reading. I thought the Knicks were known for having an intelligent fanbase. I guess people don't understand how bad Achilles injuries are in general, let alone for a 30 something year old player.

[Knick4Real]

Time for a new thread!

[god shammgod]

Time for a new thread!

i saw an old thread the other day and it got to 400 pages. i wonder what the record is ?

[3toheadmelo]

you can stop arguing about who to include in the sign and trade because it's already been shot down

[Starksfor3]

Time for Rich Kleiman to show his colors.

If he allows Durant to sign with the Nets, he should be perma-banned from the Garden.

On the contrary, he should receive courtside tickets for the rest of his life.

I'm appalled at these posts I'm reading. I thought the Knicks were known for having an intelligent fanbase. I guess people don't understand how bad Achilles injuries are in general, let alone for a 30 something year old player.

I don't care about Durant. I just hate the Nets and the optics will look awful for us.

[Futureisnow]

Except we’re not giving up any assets to sign Durant, assuming he wants to come here. Hell, by the time he can play we’ll have several lottery picks still on their first deal, Mitch and all our picks going forward. Signing Durant in no way compromises the goal, unless you’re assuming his career is already over and he’ll be liability going forward.

[Jay10]

The thing that makes no sense in all of this though is the Nets stuff.

KD was rumored to come here all year then out of nowhere after the injury he decides he wants to go to Brooklyn?

I think Brooklyn has only recently come into play as a pawn to get the Knicks' attention. I don't believe any true intention of KD to go to the Nets. It's all gamesmanship.

They're a pawn because the media wants a Nets vs Knicks free agency angle.

[Billy Goat]

Time for Rich Kleiman to show his colors.

If he allows Durant to sign with the Nets, he should be perma-banned from the Garden.

On the contrary, he should receive courtside tickets for the rest of his life.

I'm appalled at these posts I'm reading. I thought the Knicks were known for having an intelligent fanbase. I guess people don't understand how bad Achilles injuries are in general, let alone for a 30 something year old player.

Im appalled that the board thinks the likes of Alonzo Trier and DS JR are assets. It's Kevin Durant. The team has been a disaster for 20 seasons and is irrelevant nationally. It's a risk you can take that no one will second guess.

Having Durant prevents the Knicks from doing what exactly? They have the cap space. Unless Kawhi wants to be here, then its a signing you make.

[bigfnjoe96]

C'mon y'all. There's tooooooooooo many things in place for KD to sign with Brooklyn. It's US and GSW. And from what's being said KD ain't happy with GSW. Also why is KD still in NYC????? I get he's set up business wise, but could be anywhere in the world right now. It's not like he's bed ridden.

His spiritual advisor is here Carl Lentz. Who BTW is also Kyrie's spiritual advisor. We have 2 of KD's closes friends in the organization and finally Rich FN Kleinman...

It's happening and you all will like it!!!

[god shammgod]

C'mon y'all. There's tooooooooooo many things in place for KD to sign with Brooklyn. It's US and GSW. And from what's being said KD ain't happy with GSW. Also why is KD still in NYC????? I get he's set up business wise, but could be anywhere in the world right now. It's not like he's bed ridden.

His spiritual advisor is here Carl Lentz. Who BTW is also Kyrie's spiritual advisor. We have 2 of KD's closes friends in the organization and finally Rich FN Kleinman...

oh no, not that guy.