OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe

[HarthorneWingo]

No more strip clubs.

[thebuzzardman]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

I don't know. Could be. Just reading a few pandemic books/1918 flu books and it seems fairly similar to me.

[thebuzzardman]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Wow! I hadn't heard that yet. That is some crazy shizz.
Do you know if it is getting at younger people yet? Everything I hear is 90% with older people with other probs (like weaker hearts, kidneys, etc)

No, the government lab that produced didn't want to kill people in the 20-30 age group, but the sinister organization that makes the flue made sure the flu in 1918 did just that.

They tailor them for the cause.

There is only so much room on the spaceships to Mars, and no room for the fat, weak and/or old.

[Knick4Real]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Wow! I hadn't heard that yet. That is some crazy shizz.
Do you know if it is getting at younger people yet? Everything I hear is 90% with older people with other probs (like weaker hearts, kidneys, etc)

Yet??? Hell yeah it's getting younger people.

Folks in their 20s and 30s are having strokes out of nowhere and dying because of COVID. In fact, the 5-month-old daughter of an NYC firefighter died of COVID.

If anybody thinks this is only an "old people's" illness and all young people are immune, they are SORELY mistaken!!

[spree8]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...

[Jstarks3]

my father in laws company, a global engineering/construction company, is making him go to work tomorrow in Georgia. hes 72 with a heart condition. anything he can do short of losing his job?

[RHODEY]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Wow! I hadn't heard that yet. That is some crazy shizz.
Do you know if it is getting at younger people yet? Everything I hear is 90% with older people with other probs (like weaker hearts, kidneys, etc)

Yes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

[Knick4Real]

Come on guys. Nice to speculate about the virus being manufactured, but this behavior is pretty much viruses 101. It's what they do. Every so often a big one comes along. Epidemiologists have been warning about this POSSIBILITY for a while.

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...

If what you're saying is correct, what about the entire decade of the '90s with 2G when mobile phones replaced pagers and everybody everywhere started buying them?? No virus then.

With this theory, you could pick almost anything and pair it with a virus just to make a point. Maybe AIDS was caused by the first home computer in the '80s. Then, all the other viruses/diseases after it was caused by Apple and Microsoft releasing newer versions of desktops and laptops. Or, maybe these viruses are the cause of airlines upgrading the jet technology flying through the skies. Or, cable tv incrementally going digital then HD, etc.

Sounds silly, right? My point exactly!!

[RHODEY]

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...


I almost wish he were right because that would atleast mean we have identified a cause....

If what you're saying is correct, what about the entire decade of the '90s with 2G when mobile phones replaced pagers and everybody everywhere started buying them?? No virus then.

With this theory, you could pick almost anything and pair it with a virus just to make a point. Maybe AIDS was caused by the first home computer in the '80s. Then, all the other viruses/diseases after it was caused by Apple and Microsoft releasing newer versions of desktops and laptops. Or, maybe these viruses are the cause of airlines upgrading the jet technology flying through the skies. Or, cable tv incrementally going digital then HD, etc.

Sounds silly, right? My point exactly!!

I almost wish he were correct. That would be we would have at least identified a cause ....

[Pointgod]

Ive spoke to people in healthcare and they are saying the wide range of I'll effects from this virus are mad sus. Respiratory damage ok, but coupled with blood clots , liver damage, no immunity from reinfection..not "normal".

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...

If what you're saying is correct, what about the entire decade of the '90s with 2G when mobile phones replaced pagers and everybody everywhere started buying them?? No virus then.

With this theory, you could pick almost anything and pair it with a virus just to make a point. Maybe AIDS was caused by the first home computer in the '80s. Then, all the other viruses/diseases after it was caused by Apple and Microsoft releasing newer versions of desktops and laptops. Or, maybe these viruses are the cause of airlines upgrading the jet technology flying through the skies. Or, cable tv incrementally going digital then HD, etc.

Sounds silly, right? My point exactly!!

You notice how there’s a huge **** gap between the 1800s and 2000s even though things like microwaves, GPS and a whole bunch of other **** was invented during that time? Yeah that’s because that chart posted was bull. It took me less than a minute to debunk it on google. I really wish people would stop and think critically and do some research before posting complete bull.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-3g-sars-4g-swine-5g-coronav/false-claim-3g-4g-and-5g-caused-sars-swine-flu-and-the-new-coronavirus-idUSKBN21P27O

False claim: 3G, 4G and 5G caused SARS, swine flu and the new coronavirus

[spree8]

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...

If what you're saying is correct, what about the entire decade of the '90s with 2G when mobile phones replaced pagers and everybody everywhere started buying them?? No virus then.

With this theory, you could pick almost anything and pair it with a virus just to make a point. Maybe AIDS was caused by the first home computer in the '80s. Then, all the other viruses/diseases after it was caused by Apple and Microsoft releasing newer versions of desktops and laptops. Or, maybe these viruses are the cause of airlines upgrading the jet technology flying through the skies. Or, cable tv incrementally going digital then HD, etc.

Sounds silly, right? My point exactly!!

You notice how there’s a huge **** gap between the 1800s and 2000s even though things like microwaves, GPS and a whole bunch of other **** was invented during that time? Yeah that’s because that chart posted was bull. It took me less than a minute to debunk it on google. I really wish people would stop and think critically and do some research before posting complete bull.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-3g-sars-4g-swine-5g-coronav/false-claim-3g-4g-and-5g-caused-sars-swine-flu-and-the-new-coronavirus-idUSKBN21P27O

False claim: 3G, 4G and 5G caused SARS, swine flu and the new coronavirus

I have done research lol. I’m not the one who made that up... I just posted dates bruh. I’m not even saying I believe it 100%... I literally prefaced with that. Maybe you should read the post? But you posted one website that literally had no evidence whatsoever on it lol... none. Did you even read it? It just confirms the dates are correct and says it’s a coincidence. A fact is tho that police use 5G to disperse crowds and the military uses it as a weapon. Just sayin

[robillionaire]

you realize that correlation doesn't imply causation right

[spree8]

you realize that correlation doesn't imply causation right

No shyt

[HarthorneWingo]

Carlin called it

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

Read on Twitter

[Zenzibar]

I thought this was too cool. Good for the kids.

Thinking caps on: Chinese school kids return to classroom with the help of ‘social distancing hats’

Elementary schoolers in the Chinese megacity of Hangzhou have returned to school, sporting an unusual addition to their regular uniform: a winged cardboard hat reminding them to maintain distance from each other.
The longest ever winter vacation for Hangzhou’s elementary students ended this week, as first to third grades returned to the classroom. One school in the city, Yangzheng Primary School, gave its students an early assignment: fashion their own homemade “one-meter hats,” to remind the youngsters to stay a meter apart at all times.


Thinking caps on: Chinese school kids return to classroom with the help of ‘social distancing hats’





Schoolchildren in Hangzhou wearing 'one meter hats' in the classroom © Weibo
According to local media, students may only remove the hats during mealtimes. When leaving the classroom, the youngsters have to ‘crab walk’ through the door to avoid clipping their wings.

In addition, students are given face masks every day, and have their temperatures taken upon arrival. (Good luck here)

Winged hats have been mandatory in Hangzhou before, albeit not for a thousand years. When the city – then called Lin’an – was ruled by the Song Dynasty in the 10th century, emperors mandated that officials wear black hats with stiff flaps, to prevent them whispering to one another.

[HarthorneWingo]

Of course ...

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-administration-drove-him-back-to-china-where-he-invented-a-fast-coronavirus-test

The Trump Administration Drove Him Back to China, Where He Invented a Fast Coronavirus Test

A federal crackdown on professors’ undisclosed outside activities is achieving what China has long struggled to do: spur Chinese scientists to return home. In this crisis, it’s costing the U.S. intellectual firepower.

by David Armstrong, Annie Waldman and Daniel Golden March 18, 5 a.m. EDT

(This article was co-published with The Chronicle of Higher Education.)

On the fourth floor of the University of Florida cancer research building, the once-bustling laboratory overseen by professor Weihong Tan is in disarray. White lab coats are strewn over workbenches. Storage drums and boxes, including some marked with biohazard warnings, are scattered across the floor. A pink note stuck to a machine that makes copies of DNA samples indicates the device is broken.

No one is here on this weekday afternoon in February. On a shelf, wedged next to instruction manuals and binders of lab records, is a reminder of bygone glory: a group photo of Tan surrounded by more than two dozen smiling students and employees.

As the Florida lab sat vacant, a different scene unfolded half a world away in China, where a team of 300 scientists and researchers worked furiously to develop a fast, easy test for COVID-19. The leader of that timely project? Tan, the former Florida researcher.

The 59-year-old Tan is a stark example of the intellectual firepower fleeing the U.S. as a result of a Trump administration crackdown on university researchers with ties to China. Tan abruptly left Florida in 2019 during an investigation into his alleged failure to fully disclose Chinese academic appointments and funding. He moved to Hunan University in south-central China, where he now conducts his vital research.

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Tan, a chemistry professor whose research has focused on diagnosing and treating cancer, quickly pivoted to working on a coronavirus test when the outbreak began in China. Boosted by a Chinese government grant, he teamed up with researchers at two other universities in China and a biotechnology company to create a test that produces results in 40 minutes and can be performed in a doctor’s office or in non-medical settings like airport screening areas, according to a 13-page booklet detailing the test’s development and benefits. It has been tried successfully on more than 200 samples from hospitals and checkpoints, according to the booklet, which Tan shared with a former Florida colleague. It’s not clear how widely the test is being used in China.

Epidemiologists say that testing is vital to mitigate the spread of the virus. But the U.S. has lagged well behind China, South Korea, and Italy in the number of people tested. It’s hard to know if Tan’s test would have made a difference. The slow U.S. ramp-up has been blamed largely on bureaucratic barriers and a shortage of chemical agents needed for testing.

A star researcher funded by the National Institutes of Health, Tan taught for a quarter century at Florida and raised two sons in Gainesville. He was also a participant in the Thousand Talents program, China’s aggressive effort to lure top scientists from U.S. universities, and had been working part time at Hunan University for even longer than he had taught at Florida. Last year, alerted by NIH, Florida began investigating his outside activities.

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[Zenzibar]

Yea I’m sorry but it’s def suspect... the list of symptoms is enormous, and some people having zero symptoms while others are dying a terrible death is not normal... c’mon.

Headaches
Dry cough
Sore throat
Fatigue
Chills
Fever
Body aches
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Loss of smell
Lost of taste
Etc etc etc

Now people are having strokes and heart attacks.

Wtf kind of virus is this? At this point, I’m not even ruling out the 5G shyt lol. I laughed at that theory until I read up on it a bit...

If what you're saying is correct, what about the entire decade of the '90s with 2G when mobile phones replaced pagers and everybody everywhere started buying them?? No virus then.

With this theory, you could pick almost anything and pair it with a virus just to make a point. Maybe AIDS was caused by the first home computer in the '80s. Then, all the other viruses/diseases after it was caused by Apple and Microsoft releasing newer versions of desktops and laptops. Or, maybe these viruses are the cause of airlines upgrading the jet technology flying through the skies. Or, cable tv incrementally going digital then HD, etc.

Sounds silly, right? My point exactly!!

You notice how there’s a huge **** gap between the 1800s and 2000s even though things like microwaves, GPS and a whole bunch of other **** was invented during that time? Yeah that’s because that chart posted was bull. It took me less than a minute to debunk it on google. I really wish people would stop and think critically and do some research before posting complete bull.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-3g-sars-4g-swine-5g-coronav/false-claim-3g-4g-and-5g-caused-sars-swine-flu-and-the-new-coronavirus-idUSKBN21P27O

False claim: 3G, 4G and 5G caused SARS, swine flu and the new coronavirus

Just cause you can selectively Google things to falsify claims neither makes it true.

Case in point an article from John Hopkins Hospital themselves:
https://www.hopkinsallchildrens.org/Patients-Families/Health-Library/HealthDocNew/Radiation-Sickness

Radiation Sickness

When large amounts of radiation are released into the air over a short period of time (as from a nuclear blast), it can make people and other living things very sick. Radiation sickness can cause flu-like symptoms, hair loss, skin burns, and even death.

Fortunately, radiation sickness is rare and the risk to people more than a few miles from a blast is extremely low.

If radiation remains in the soil or water supplies, long-term exposure can increase a person's risk of cancer. But even then, it's much lower than the overall risk of cancer to most people living in the United States today.

Here's more about radiation and what happens when people are exposed to high amounts of it....


Two types of radiation:

Non-ionizing radiation. This type of energy is mostly emitted through "waves" — like sound waves, radio waves, and ultraviolet (heat) waves. It's what makes things like cell phones, light bulbs, microwave ovens and diagnostic ultrasound machines work. Although non-ionizing radiation can be harmful in very high doses, this type of radiation cannot change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing.

Ionizing radiation. Some natural sources of ionizing radiation are cosmic rays from the sun and stars, and radon (an element found in soil). Manmade sources include X-ray machines and radiation therapy for cancer treatment. Ionizing radiation is powerful enough to split an atom and change the molecular chemistry of a person or thing. It can be useful (like when it's used for cancer therapy). But ionizing radiation can also be harmful if a person is exposed to too much. It's this type of radiation that can lead to radiation sickness — and even death if the amount of radiation is really high.


---So let's give posters a break if they reach out of your belief system.

[movingon]

5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.

[Zenzibar]

5G is non-ionizing. Get a grip.

What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?