Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 4.0

[ejftw]

Do the Clippers have any positive value players outside of Kawhi, George and Mann?

Zu, Batum...I'd say Ibaka as well. Then BJ and Keon should also have positive value.

Though, the headline and article is squadoosh.

32. How long must a player be with one team before the Larry Bird exception can be used?


Bird rights accrue for a player signed to a Two-Way contract (see question number 82) the same as for a player signed to a standard NBA contract.

Thanks.

Hoping Clips are able to find a way to keep Coffey wit his birds

I just looked at his stats and he is better than at least one SG that has three years of NBA service and joined the league as a first round pick in the same year that Coffey did as a Two Way.

What is a fair salary for Coffey and do the Clippers love him enough to match an Offer Sheet with a salary in that area of a fair salary?

I, personally, would give Amir a 3/15 deal, maybe 3/18 with the final year being non or partial guarantee. Though, is guess his market value is around the minimum, maybe the BAE, so it bodes well for the Clips if they chose to keep him

[Texas Chuck]

Im not buying anything major but am a believer in not worrying about sunk costs. It should not matter how good a pick they convey.

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Anybody buying this? One the one hand, PG does have a history of upper body issues keeping him out. On the other, it's Fischer, and the article talks about "taking a step back" in a "gap year" without acknowledging that OKC has their unprotected 1st.

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[MoneyTalks41890]

Im not buying anything major but am a believer in not worrying about sunk costs. It should not matter how good a pick they convey.

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Anybody buying this? One the one hand, PG does have a history of upper body issues keeping him out. On the other, it's Fischer, and the article talks about "taking a step back" in a "gap year" without acknowledging that OKC has their unprotected 1st.

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I mean I agree, and obviously that would inure to OKC's benefit, but I don't really see the point in a sell-off if it doesnt yield an asset like a better draft pick. Maybe you do something with Ibaka and Bledsoe, but I would think you'd want to still try to make the playoffs if possible. Why not?

[Consequence]

In that article, there's a proposed Bledsoe - Dragic swap. What's the compensation like for that when LAC adds to their tax bill for this year but gets off $4 million for next?

[ejftw]

Im not buying anything major but am a believer in not worrying about sunk costs. It should not matter how good a pick they convey.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Anybody buying this? One the one hand, PG does have a history of upper body issues keeping him out. On the other, it's Fischer, and the article talks about "taking a step back" in a "gap year" without acknowledging that OKC has their unprotected 1st.

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I mean I agree, and obviously that would inure to OKC's benefit, but I don't really see the point in a sell-off if it doesnt yield an asset like a better draft pick. Maybe you do something with Ibaka and Bledsoe, but I would think you'd want to still try to make the playoffs if possible. Why not?

Which is why it's an absolute attention seeking piece by Fisher. Clippers selling doesn't help the pick situation (they also didn't tank after tearing down Lob City, when they had picks) and they aren't going to be able to clear useable cap space for the summer in any case either.

Just makes absolutely no sense. Trimming the fat and giving Batum a chance to compete, maybe. But selling?

No

[loserX]

Do the Clippers have any positive value players outside of Kawhi, George and Mann?

If nobody else wants Batum, Utah will happily take him. He'd be a terrific fit here.

Zubac I would also have as positive, and some of their kids (Johnson, Boston) on the basis of potential, not production.

[K_chile22]

Im not buying anything major but am a believer in not worrying about sunk costs. It should not matter how good a pick they convey.

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Anybody buying this? One the one hand, PG does have a history of upper body issues keeping him out. On the other, it's Fischer, and the article talks about "taking a step back" in a "gap year" without acknowledging that OKC has their unprotected 1st.

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I mean I agree, and obviously that would inure to OKC's benefit, but I don't really see the point in a sell-off if it doesnt yield an asset like a better draft pick. Maybe you do something with Ibaka and Bledsoe, but I would think you'd want to still try to make the playoffs if possible. Why not?

Yeah, I'm not buying it either. It would make sense if they had valuable expiring guys for example, refill the asset base and use those assets to make next year's team better, but everyone on the roster that they'd be willing to part with is at best worth a blah second so why not just keep them around for next year?

Maybe the sitting PG and Kawhi part could be true but not the sellers part

[MoneyTalks41890]

I'd be interested in taking on Ibaka for a few seconds.

I wonder about something like Bledsoe, Ibaka, Keon for Favors, Kenrich?

They save a ton of money.

[Colbinii]

Im not buying anything major but am a believer in not worrying about sunk costs. It should not matter how good a pick they convey.

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I mean I agree, and obviously that would inure to OKC's benefit, but I don't really see the point in a sell-off if it doesnt yield an asset like a better draft pick. Maybe you do something with Ibaka and Bledsoe, but I would think you'd want to still try to make the playoffs if possible. Why not?

Yeah, I'm not buying it either. It would make sense if they had valuable expiring guys for example, refill the asset base and use those assets to make next year's team better, but everyone on the roster that they'd be willing to part with is at best worth a blah second so why not just keep them around for next year?

Maybe the sitting PG and Kawhi part could be true but not the sellers part

I'm quite sure they are willing to reduce the tax bill and I expect them to come trade deadline, assuming they drop even more in the standings.

[ejftw]

I'd be interested in taking on Ibaka for a few seconds.

I wonder about something like Bledsoe, Ibaka, Keon for Favors, Kenrich?

They save a ton of money.

Not giving up Keon in a situation like this.

[K_chile22]

I mean I agree, and obviously that would inure to OKC's benefit, but I don't really see the point in a sell-off if it doesnt yield an asset like a better draft pick. Maybe you do something with Ibaka and Bledsoe, but I would think you'd want to still try to make the playoffs if possible. Why not?

Yeah, I'm not buying it either. It would make sense if they had valuable expiring guys for example, refill the asset base and use those assets to make next year's team better, but everyone on the roster that they'd be willing to part with is at best worth a blah second so why not just keep them around for next year?

Maybe the sitting PG and Kawhi part could be true but not the sellers part

I'm quite sure they are willing to reduce the tax bill and I expect them to come trade deadline, assuming they drop even more in the standings.

Sure, but they'll probably be "selling" players no one wants, like Ibaka, where they're actually paying someone to take him

[eminence]

Batum would certainly generate a lot of interest around the league I'm sure, but that doesn't save them much money.

Among their guys who are currently owed real money (not including Kawhi/PG) - Bledsoe/Morris/Kennard/Jackson/Ibaka/Zubac... I don't really see much positive value. Zubac probably the best bet there, but also the guy I think they'd least want to sell.

I dunno, it's an odd one.

[zimpy27]

I think Morris+Bledsoe for Harris is an interesting deal.

Philly save 15m in the offseason which means they can afford to be hard-capped by.
Clippers get a 3rd wing with PG and Kawhi. Harris has some playmaking chops that haven't been used in Philly but would be useful with Clippers.

[NYG]

What pick(s) could they get for Zubac or Batum?

[tidho]

Maybe package Batume with Winslow. That's $7M out, if you bring back a $5.5M expiring, saves you some cash this year and clears cap next.

I'm sure somebody has a TPE they'd be willing to send for Ibaka too.

[toooskies]

What pick(s) could they get for Zubac or Batum?

I'd compare Batum to last year's RoCo deal. Older, but less salary due. Portland probably overpaid, but Batum probably gets a late 1st at a minimum.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Simmons for PG13 type of deal? Assuming PG13 can get playoff ready.

[zimpy27]

Simmons for PG13 type of deal? Assuming PG13 can get playoff ready.

This always felt like a perfect trade match. I just can't see PG13 back on a team with coach RIvers and then also with Seth Curry.

[HornetJail]

What pick(s) could they get for Zubac or Batum?

I'd compare Batum to last year's RoCo deal. Older, but less salary due. Portland probably overpaid, but Batum probably gets a late 1st at a minimum.

i will eat my own sock if Batum is traded straight up for a 1st round pick

[jbk1234]

What pick(s) could they get for Zubac or Batum?

I'd compare Batum to last year's RoCo deal. Older, but less salary due. Portland probably overpaid, but Batum probably gets a late 1st at a minimum.

i will eat my own sock if Batum is traded straight up for a 1st round pick

Yeah, I think he tops out at a good second.