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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19961 » by DickGrayson » Fri May 29, 2015 3:59 am

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Been saying Winslow is a top 4 prospect. I disagree with Kevon Looney whose as raw as Marvin Williams was coming out of UNC. I hate when guys like Looney leave early as they dilute the quality of the NBA product.


That article / stats only used the guys who played in college -- ignored Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, etc.

Williams was less raw than Looney is, but I get what you're saying.


Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.
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Post#19962 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:05 am

DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
That article / stats only used the guys who played in college -- ignored Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, etc.

Williams was less raw than Looney is, but I get what you're saying.


Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You have your opinion and I have my own. I disagree.
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Post#19963 » by ophdog » Fri May 29, 2015 4:06 am

What happens at page 1000? How many pages are you guys calling by draft night?
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19964 » by swisscheeseD » Fri May 29, 2015 4:07 am

ophdog wrote:What happens at page 1000? How many pages are you guys calling by draft night?


It's like the Y2k...this site is going to shut down.
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Post#19965 » by DickGrayson » Fri May 29, 2015 4:08 am

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92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You have your opinion and I have my own. I disagree.


Cool story. are we making a new thread?
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Post#19966 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:11 am

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Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You have your opinion and I have my own. I disagree.


Cool story. are we making a new thread?


Nah.
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19967 » by Worst_to_First » Fri May 29, 2015 4:11 am

DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
That article / stats only used the guys who played in college -- ignored Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, etc.

Williams was less raw than Looney is, but I get what you're saying.


Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You're not helping me sell to Flip the Towns-for-Porzingis draft day swap bro. :lol:
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19968 » by Besart19 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:14 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You have your opinion and I have my own. I disagree.


If Bargs had quickness and played defense he would have been very good if not great :)

While Kristaps is soon to be that one. Bargs with defense, quickness & agility! & with more muscle frame that means KG 2.0.
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19969 » by Besart19 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:17 am

ophdog wrote:What happens at page 1000? How many pages are you guys calling by draft night?


If we get one of the top4, then we wont go more than 20 pages after the draft hour!!

Buuut, if (God forbid) we pick a (semi) scrub :D the RealGM server would just blow up :D (3000 pages in 3 days) :lol:
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Post#19970 » by ophdog » Fri May 29, 2015 4:34 am

I just really hope that whoever we draft is done so because they are best player on the board and not to fit any system. Winslow would bore me. Only because we already have a star forward we need big men and backcourt help Winslow does neither
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Post#19971 » by ophdog » Fri May 29, 2015 4:35 am

Winslow is the kind of guy you bring into the Spurs or other teams that have those established corner stones. We need building blocks!
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Post#19972 » by aq_ua » Fri May 29, 2015 4:38 am

In before 1000.
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Post#19973 » by Capn'O » Fri May 29, 2015 4:41 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
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EMG518 wrote:

You obviously havent watched him play. The only thing they have in common is they both are built similar and from Latvia.


I've watched his draft express cutups in doing research on him. In my eyes Biedrins was the fairest comp I could come up with having seen a ton of his Warriors games from the mid-late 00s. I honestly had no idea both players were from Latvia until you brought it up. Where Porzingis is from had no influence on my comparison-it was how he looked and what his playing style sorta reminded me of.


He's a significantly better offensive player than Biedrins ever was. As someone who has been watching him since before last year's draft, I can say that they play nothing alike on offense. Only defensively because of the quick feet, slight frame, and shot blocking ability.



The Biedrins comparison doesn't deserve acknowledgement. Andris didn't shoot a single three in his entire NBA career and couldn't shoot FTs to save his life. If he had half the offensive game that Kristaps does _now_ we'd be thinking of him as one of the better centers of the last ten years.
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Post#19974 » by isiah_thomas » Fri May 29, 2015 4:42 am

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Post#19975 » by Capn'O » Fri May 29, 2015 4:43 am

DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
That article / stats only used the guys who played in college -- ignored Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, etc.

Williams was less raw than Looney is, but I get what you're saying.


Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


That's a horrible comparison too. Wow.
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19976 » by 92Knicksfan93 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:50 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
That article / stats only used the guys who played in college -- ignored Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, etc.

Williams was less raw than Looney is, but I get what you're saying.


Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


I wouldn't take Winslow above Porzingis or Mudiay...to each his own, though.


In my top 5: 1) Towns, 2a) Winslow, 2b) Mudiay, 3) Okafor, 4) Russell.

My next 5 (the order is fluid) : 5) Stanley Johnson, 6) Cameron Payne, 7) Mario Hezonja , 8) WCS, 9) Porzingis, 10) Tyus Jones
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19977 » by swisscheeseD » Fri May 29, 2015 4:51 am

1000?
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19978 » by DickGrayson » Fri May 29, 2015 4:51 am

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DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


You're not helping me sell to Flip the Towns-for-Porzingis draft day swap bro. :lol:


:lol: truth. Minnesota probably the best fit for Porzingis. Dieng/Pekovic would help Porzingis stretch the floor.
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19979 » by DickGrayson » Fri May 29, 2015 4:51 am

Capn'O wrote:
DickGrayson wrote:
92Knicksfan93 wrote:
Even if we factor in the two euros and Mudiay I'd still have Winslow in my top 4 ahead of Russell and both Euro prospects as a matter of preference. The only player I would be upset with is Porzingis though.


Anyone who has grinded this draft class and the NCAA season can see how Winslow is a top 2-4 player.
Porzingis is literally Andrea Bargnani...I would be flatten if we pick him.


That's a horrible comparison too. Wow.


Nope, it isn't. They have exactly the same production.
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Re: Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk 

Post#19980 » by DickGrayson » Fri May 29, 2015 4:53 am

ophdog wrote:I just really hope that whoever we draft is done so because they are best player on the board and not to fit any system. Winslow would bore me. Only because we already have a star forward we need big men and backcourt help Winslow does neither


Knicks have too many holes, we just have to draft the best talent.

Winslow, Mudiay and Russell will be the best talent available to us, unless Okafor falls to 4.

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