Rodney Stuckey 14 Assist Game vs. TOR... closer look?

[Cowology]

Remember when Bynum had 20 assists in game last year? Or when Rip averaged 12 assists per game for a week the year before? Yeah. One big assist game (or even 3 in a row) means squat when it comes to actually being a point.

I'm not saying the game meant a whole heck of a lot, but the purpose of this thread was to examine that specific game and in that specific game Stuckey played damn well.

[King Bugs]

Remember when Bynum had 20 assists in game last year? Or when Rip averaged 12 assists per game for a week the year before? Yeah. One big assist game (or even 3 in a row) means squat when it comes to actually being a point.

Seriously...

But pertaining to the thread, there's no point in nitpicking one of the few times Rodney puts together a decent PG effort anyway because "dumb Stuckey" (the one that's around the most) has already came back. "Passing Stuckey" made a short visit and went on vacation and his brother "efficient Stuckey" tends to do the same thing every season. Rodney is only capable of playing good basketball in short and spread out stretches. Maybe he'll show us something tonight against Indy.

[OneBadMutha]

There were also a few nice passes where he didn't get credit for assists due to missed shots. In fact, we could make a thread of nice passes that led to wide open shots or point blank shots near the rim that were either missed or led to a foul in that game and some others over the past few weeks.

This is lame and a lot of effort to prove nothing.

Anyways, those who argued that he was playing better were not arguing about stats specifically. For a couple weeks he was making good decisions, playing under control, and making it look easy. Then has been put more and more off the ball again by Kuester and has gone back to old Stuckey.

Sometimes I wonder if 313 and Kuester are the same guy.

[Cowology]

Sometimes I wonder if 313 and Kuester are the same guy.

Warned for flaming. It's against the TOS (and just plain mean) to compare any member of this forum to Kuester.

[313 Professor]

Anyway, what I think is interesting is that I could draw a completely different conclusion from the exact same information.

You talk about easy or elementary plays being run, or how it was really the result of the other person doing the work like those are bad things. I think it's awesome. I don't care if we are playing the worst defensive team in the league, if you get 14 assists you're having a pretty damn good game.

Stuckey made the right, simple play on a consistent basis. He found the open man, and gave guys the ball in a position where they could create. He ran the offense. That is exactly what you want, but it seems like you intend this information as a means of discrediting him. I am confused by this.

My only complaint is that he doesn't play like this more often.

This is very true that they were all the right decision in the end. But, my primary point was to highlight that while the number was impressive in the box score, Stuckey wasn't exactly creating offense for others, and that the game shouldn't be used as an example of Stuckey putting on a clinic (as Mark Jackson would say) at the PG spot.

Stuckey made the right decision, but aside from maybe the CV alley, they were decisions that he would've been stupid not to make, rather than ones he should be given credit for. Credit should be given when one does something special. When they do something that's a little more than the bare minimum of what you'd expect you take it for what it is. It's like giving a guy credit for making a wide-open lay-up. Obviously it's not as extreme in the case of Stuck's passing, but you're just supposed to make cetrain plays.

I see what you're saying though. I left out the truly negative plays because I thought that'd be a little much, but maybe I'll do this again before the end of the season with that included. I record most of the games.

Thanks for the respectful, on-topic post (you too bballnmike).

[srt4b]

This is hilarious. I'm choosing a new team. This board has became embarrassing.

[JD43320]

Remember when Bynum had 20 assists in game last year? Or when Rip averaged 12 assists per game for a week the year before? Yeah. One big assist game (or even 3 in a row) means squat when it comes to actually being a point.

I'm not saying the game meant a whole heck of a lot, but the purpose of this thread was to examine that specific game and in that specific game Stuckey played damn well.

I'm just saying it's a pointless exercise. The only thing Stuckey has proven to us is that he is consistently inconsistent. It's a waste of time and bandwidth to talk about his stats against one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA.

[pistons_own]

Sometimes I wonder if 313 and Kuester are the same guy.

Warned for flaming. It's against the TOS (and just plain mean) to compare any member of this forum to Kuester.

[epheisey]

I find it hard to really hate on Stuckey right now saying he hasn't been consistent following this game. His minutes have been a roller coaster in the past month or so and the rotations Q has been putting out there are along those same lines. I'm not saying that he would be able to replicate that performance every time, but if you want consistency from a player it's only fair to put him in the game on a consistent basis with consistent rotations.
What would happen if you watch a celtics game and critiqued rondo? Would he look less impressive? Without actually doing it my guess would be YES. Being surrounded by two great shooters and KG he probably gets plenty of easy assists. But I still think that he is one of the top 5 PG in the NBA right now.

[ComboGuardCity]

Sometimes I wonder if 313 and Kuester are the same guy.

Warned for flaming. It's against the TOS (and just plain mean) to compare any member of this forum to Kuester.

[Spider156]

I haven't seen Todd here in a while. Hmmmmmmmmm

[Spider156]

So the Chauncey to Rip assists were too easy and shouldn't get credit?

There goes your whole argument.

[OneBadMutha]

All I want from Stuckey is to play under control, take very few shots in the half court without letting his team touch the ball first, and make the simple decisions quicker. I think over the past few weeks he's shown hints that there's enough there for a good coach to work with. Enough for him to be part of an efficient offense. He'll never be Paul or Williams. Without a jump shot or go-to finisher in the lane he won't be a Rose-caliber Superstar or clutch. But he's still one of the top 2 most all around talented players on the roster and he's young.

If the Pistons got a go-to scorer #1 option on the wing, I think they have plenty of potential offensively. Like what Stuckey brings defensively and in terms of toughness.

But nit-picking games is crazy. Making players better is not about making amazing highlight reel, high level of difficult passes. Chemistry and playing with the same players with set roles, set rotations, and everyone consistently on the same page will improve everyone's games.

There is potential here. It'll take a new coach and dropping off some of the baggage to make it happen. Stuckey isn't baggage that needs to be let go. This breakdown does a poor job of discrediting recent evidence otherwise.