"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[Kuya]

Ok Kuya...fair enough.

Of course we should always look to improve. I personally would like to add without much subtraction. That's why I personally would push for Ray Allen and Jermaine Oneal. Those are two veteran adds in areas of need without subtracting more than a roster spot.

I also would look into Kevin Garnett. If it took Lee to get it done, I would do it. Solely based on toughness and defense. Championship pedigree.

But bottom line is that Bob Myers is not sitting on his hands.....I'd bet you they are working hard to find some help.

I'd prefer KG or JO behind Bogut over Ezeli/Lee/Speights.

Tarik Back was just released and he was protecting the rim in Dwight's absence. He could be a bully down low and come to us on a rookie deal.

[FNQ]

Ok, despite the source I'll humor the thread.

Name some quality backup Cs that are clearly better than Ezeli

Then, tell me why any team would want to trade a ready-now big man for two guys in the end stages of their prime. If anything, it's future assets that they want.

The reason why I didn't take this seriously, besides your obvious axe to grind, is that you're pushing for vets you don't like to be traded to solve a problem that likely can't be solved by vets. Ezeli and a first might solve one. But your insistence on naming players you don't like as our outgoing assets makes it impossible to take seriously. If you don't want me and possibly other's to dismiss what you post as irrational or emotional, then stop repeating the same tired take in every game thread. It comes off that way.

[Mylie10]

Ok Kuya...fair enough.

Of course we should always look to improve. I personally would like to add without much subtraction. That's why I personally would push for Ray Allen and Jermaine Oneal. Those are two veteran adds in areas of need without subtracting more than a roster spot.

I also would look into Kevin Garnett. If it took Lee to get it done, I would do it. Solely based on toughness and defense. Championship pedigree.

But bottom line is that Bob Myers is not sitting on his hands.....I'd bet you they are working hard to find some help.

I'd prefer KG or JO behind Bogut over Ezeli/Lee/Speights.

Tarik Back was just released and he was protecting the rim in Dwight's absence. He could be a bully down low and come to us on a rookie deal.

In 25 games with almost 400 minutes played, Black blocked a grand total of 2 shots....lol at rim protector.

[cdubbz]

Have you seen Iguodala play this year? He makes way more bad plays than positive ones.

Also lol at whining, did you even read my posts regarding starting this thread? I didn't say I have the answer for us retooling, just that we should be proactively seeing what we would get in return in a trade.

For every great defensive play Igoudala makes, he misses a wide open layup, dunk, or turns the ball over. But hey -- he's our glue guy baby!

Sarcasm aside -- i do love the defense igoudala sometimes brings, his ball deflections, stripping the ball from big men in the paint, and im sure he's a GREAT locker room and veteran presence for Green, Barnes, and Ezeli on how to be a professional and i notice it every game, but boy is he difficult to watch most of the time. Will keeping him be worth it in the playoffs? I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Meyers does.

lol that just reminds me that so far igoudala and ezeli have both been stuffed by the rim the past few games.

[FNQ]

Ok Kuya...fair enough.

Of course we should always look to improve. I personally would like to add without much subtraction. That's why I personally would push for Ray Allen and Jermaine Oneal. Those are two veteran adds in areas of need without subtracting more than a roster spot.

I also would look into Kevin Garnett. If it took Lee to get it done, I would do it. Solely based on toughness and defense. Championship pedigree.

But bottom line is that Bob Myers is not sitting on his hands.....I'd bet you they are working hard to find some help.

I'd prefer KG or JO behind Bogut over Ezeli/Lee/Speights.

Tarik Back was just released and he was protecting the rim in Dwight's absence. He could be a bully down low and come to us on a rookie deal.

In 25 games with almost 400 minutes played, Black blocked a grand total of 2 shots....lol at rim protector.

Exactly. If Black was a quality backup C, a) he doesn't get released, and b) he gets claimed.

Then again , what does Black have to do with Iguodala and David Lee?

[Kuya]

Ok Kuya...fair enough.

Of course we should always look to improve. I personally would like to add without much subtraction. That's why I personally would push for Ray Allen and Jermaine Oneal. Those are two veteran adds in areas of need without subtracting more than a roster spot.

I also would look into Kevin Garnett. If it took Lee to get it done, I would do it. Solely based on toughness and defense. Championship pedigree.

But bottom line is that Bob Myers is not sitting on his hands.....I'd bet you they are working hard to find some help.

I'd prefer KG or JO behind Bogut over Ezeli/Lee/Speights.

Tarik Back was just released and he was protecting the rim in Dwight's absence. He could be a bully down low and come to us on a rookie deal.

In 25 games with almost 400 minutes played, Black blocked a grand total of 2 shots....lol at rim protector.

Houston announcers fooled me

[watch1958]

The problem is, we don't actually know what the FO has or hasn't done. I haven't heard anything to make me think they have decided to stand pat.

Take Josh Smith.

I would have liked them to consider it.(Most posters here think that is nuts.)

My only concern in that (or similar situations) is if they didn't take a serious professional look at it.

If they did a passive "ain't broke, don't fix it" approach, that would bother me.

OTOH, I have no problem if they said among themselves any of the following: "he's not what we need" or "nice talent, but can't fit his style" or "he's nuts", or "we asked, but he's not interested" or "he wants guaranteed minutes" or "he wants a low tax state", etc.

Without knowing what they are thinking, threads like this usually don't end up discussing who or what might be available. Instead we just rehash the same "dump Lee or Barnes or Iguadola" arguments that seem to have become religious dogma for folks defending old takes.

[Kuya]

Black was released to make room for Josh Smith and there are many teams interested in him.

[DynastySS]

I want the record to state that there are multiple posts in this thread by Kuya without a stupid emoji.

I don't know what to do.

[Kuya]

I want the record to state that there are multiple posts in this thread by Kuya without a stupid emoji.

I don't know what to do.

[ChuckDurn]

The problem is, we don't actually know what the FO has or hasn't done. I haven't heard anything to make me think they have decided to stand pat.

Take Josh Smith.

I would have liked them to consider it.(Most posters here think that is nuts.)

My only concern in that (or similar situations) is if they didn't take a serious professional look at it.

If they did a passive "ain't broke, don't fix it" approach, that would bother me.

OTOH, I have no problem if they said among themselves any of the following: "he's not what we need" or "nice talent, but can't fit his style" or "he's nuts", or "we asked, but he's not interested" or "he wants guaranteed minutes" or "he wants a low tax state", etc.

Without knowing what they are thinking, threads like this usually don't end up discussing who or what might be available. Instead we just rehash the same "dump Lee or Barnes or Iguadola" arguments that seem to have become religious dogma for folks defending old takes.

It was reported that every team in the league, with the exception of Atlanta, checked in with Smith after he was released. By default, that means there was some level of interest from the Warriors.

[Mylie10]

With the exception of Atlanta? Thats hella funny, and tells you all you need to know about Josh Smith.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

We keep the players we have; Don't think Lee and Iggy are expandable/tradeable this season unless another player from another team is seeking to be traded. We're just missing a backup SG and frontcourt player (4/5).

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

With the exception of Atlanta? Thats hella funny, and tells you all you need to know about Josh Smith.

Are Rockets going full-retard mode by adding Smith? Or will they now be an bigger issue for us to deal with?

[ChuckDurn]

You know who should be panicking? Cleveland. Allegedly the prohibitive title favorites, they clearly can't get things together even with 3 allegedly All-World players.... now their only semi-rim protector is out, and they get beaten badly on Christmas by a team that is missing it's best player in Bosh.

The team that shouldn't be panicking is the one that is way ahead of expected pace, and has laid an egg only a couple of times all year, one of them being a game against a motivated and big Clippers team which received ample help from officials and was able to dominate the boards against a team which was down to its third-string center. I suspect the team will come back and be re-focused after those two bombs down in LA.

This said, I wouldn't expect that we're simply "sitting on our laurels and happy with our roster". More than ever, this highlights the need for more depth at the center position (primarily for defense) and a better reserve SG. I hope we're active in discussion for deals, here's the ones I'd be interested in:
- Sign Ray Allen if he is interested in coming back
- Sign any of Okafor, O'Neal, or Raduljica (who is more offensive) if he becomes available
- Trade Lee for Garnett, adding small pieces (including potentially our draft pick) if necessary. This will be a very controversial idea, but I might consider a deal of Lee + Barnes for Garnett + Teletovic - Teletovic would be an ideal stretch 4 off the bench. (Note: Just throwing the idea out there, I'd really have to think deeply about it and might reject my own idea.....)

[Mylie10]

With the exception of Atlanta? Thats hella funny, and tells you all you need to know about Josh Smith.

Are Rockets going full-retard mode by adding Smith? Or will they now be an bigger issue for us to deal with?

Actually a bit of both.....reAlly depends on how Smith views his role. McHale might have enough clout to get through to him. He's still got talent, but I just don't see a fit with our roster. He will help them, but not sure if it makes a huge positive difference for them.

[Mylie10]

Hey Chuck,

Tristan Thompson is a very good shot blocker. He will actually help them with an increased role....but their depth on the front court sucks. Maybe we could trade them Kuzmic.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

We'll be fine as long as we keep receiving positive news on Bogut's health and monitor/limit his playing time (that's the reality of it going forward). If we can get a decent 2-way PF or C (and a sweet shooting SG), we're more than capable of taking it all the way.

[Coxy]

2 losses and panic sets in. Lol.

Give the management a chance to work it out for gods sake. Just like any team/business/family in life, when dynamics change, management and leadership can take time to right the ship. Give the guys a chance for f sake.

Panicking is way funner though.

[cdubbz]

2 losses and panic sets in. Lol.

Give the management a chance to work it out for gods sake. Just like any team/business/family in life, when dynamics change, management and leadership can take time to right the ship. Give the guys a chance for f sake.

Panicking is way funner though.

Not sure you know how fandom and forums work! When your team loses winnable games -- frustration, panic, tear the team apart.
When the team is on a winning streak -- who can we trade to get better, this guy doesn't do that, etc etc. just how it is maaaan.