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Perkele wrote:Nice to see what one trade can do.

zeebneeb wrote:No Piston fan should expect a win tonight. This group is legitimately better then their record, but who knows how good. One thing I know for. Certain, is that they are young, coming off a massive high, and sooner or later, they are going to come crashing down. They don't have experience to rely on, veteran leadership , or intangibles to win this sort of game, that comes with time.

With all that said, if they can keep it competitive for 3 quarters, before buckling in the 4th, it will show determination, and spirit, along with pure talent. Mavs by 16, but that lead gets built in the 4th.

whitehops wrote:

Perkele wrote:Nice to see what one trade can do.

are you referring to us getting tolliver?

Ghost wrote:Detroit by 30!

Ghost wrote:Detroit by 30!

fekz wrote:

zeebneeb wrote:No Piston fan should expect a win tonight. This group is legitimately better then their record, but who knows how good. One thing I know for. Certain, is that they are young, coming off a massive high, and sooner or later, they are going to come crashing down. They don't have experience to rely on, veteran leadership , or intangibles to win this sort of game, that comes with time.

With all that said, if they can keep it competitive for 3 quarters, before buckling in the 4th, it will show determination, and spirit, along with pure talent. Mavs by 16, but that lead gets built in the 4th.

Man, can you go back into hiding?

I won't be mad if they lose at all and until proven otherwise Dallas is obviously tbe better team, but damn. I don't understand people coming out to the woodwork in probably the most enjoyable window of Pistons basketball in 6 years to play negative nancy and all but foreshadow a loss (and by 16 at that).

We all thought San Antonio was an inevitable loss, but they won. It doesn't hurt to be optimistic.

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

princeofpalace wrote:

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

I listened to the podcost as well, I think Goodwill is an idiot and is afraid to say anything hard hitting about NBA players- that being said- I had a different take and I don’t think you paraphrased Goodwill correctly:

1) SVG should’ve altered Smith’s role before downright waiving him. You cannot deny that playing Smith heavy minutes and making him the number 1 option on offense was a disaster. They decided to waive Smith 3 weeks before doing it, yet SVG never explored changing his role. Glad SVG finally wised up but had he minimized Smith early in the season, or would’ve traded him this offseason, we would be playoff bound. That being said, Smith is trash and the only suitable role for him was as a 15-20 minute backup- obviously Goodwill doesn’t have the balls to say that though- its one of the reasons why bloggers> sports “journalists”.

2) I agree that Andre is a piece and not THE piece on a championship.

3) He said SVG was decent but then said a “really good” basketball coach- which is correct

4) I think he’s wrong about Monroe. If Goodwill had any understanding of the CBA- he would already know that Portland and New Orleans will be over the cap with Aldridge/Lopez/Matthew’s and Asik’ capholds. Also, Atlanta will only have 10 million in cap with Millsap/Carroll’s cap hold and there is no way Monroe goes to the Hawks to be a bench player.

5) This core is the product of Joe D, the difference is SVG rid himself of Smith in a way that Joe D never would have- that made all the difference.

To sum it up, Goodwill is an idiot but he’s not 100% wrong about some of his points. How this idiot is employed is beyond me, there are a number of posters on here vastly more knowledgeable

Neptune wrote:

russkopp wrote:Don't know where to put this either, I'm sick of Vince Goodwill from DetNews being all hurt his buddy Dumars got canned. These were his best lines from an NBA.com Podcast today:

"I think they should've kept Smith and talked to him about changing his game then tried trading him"
"Drummond is their best piece but I don't think he's untouchable like everyone else"
"SVG is a decent coach, a pretty good one, and he's helping"
"Making the playoffs would hurt this team because SVG let Monroe get away"
"This was supposed to be the 'blame Dumars season' but it's all his pieces winning games for the team"

--I want to vomit. Does anyone else despise him like i do?

Not sure why you want to vomit when most of its the truth man.

-This team is for sure the product of Dumars.

-The odds of the Pistons resigning Monroe is probably 50/50 . We don't know what teams will make moves and offer him a deal.

-SVG is a pretty good coach, I mean we're shooting a franchise high in 3-pointers(very Orlando Magic-ish).

-Drummond is our best piece, but if the Pelicans offered Davis or if the Clippers offered Griffin, SVG would probably bite.

-SVG should have definitely tried to play Smith as our 6th man to gain better trade offers. Smith is way better than Jonas and could have helped us defensively.