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Post#21 » by SalemStoner » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:46 pm

I hope this doesn't mean Fangio is gone.

I'm quite curious who they have in mind as an OC.
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Post#22 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:47 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:I have to wonder, what the hell is wrong with fangio?


More than a lot of things or MAYBE more than anything, it's probably just been the wrong fit in a lot of owner's and GM's minds. He can be very confident, brash, outspoken and unpolished in many of the areas that an owner and GM want their HC to be polished. That has been leaked out by other teams before and it's been one of the biggest things to consider when you think of Fangio. PLEASE DO NOT think that that means that these owners want a guy that's more easily controllable but I think because of Fangio's make up there's a bit more volatility and uncertainty given his history when you consider a guy like him. It's been thought by some that he needs more time developing a better big picture idea or ideas before getting a HC job. If he had a big personality offensive mind that can handle his business in his back pocket I think that could go a long way to helping him get a job.
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Post#23 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:49 pm

I_am_1z wrote:I just want to keep Vic around.


That idea is kaput unless this Tomsula stuff is premature IMO. I liked Vic as a man very much and he did a way, way better job than I ever thought he could but as I've said a couple of times in the past that there was a whole lot more to think about than continuity on defense when making this move.
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Post#24 » by Ease_Ur_Storm » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:50 pm

Nice to see that Jed hired a head coach with a superb track record in developing QB's as he clammored about. Our offense will surely transition to top 5 in the league after this bold move. Nothing personal against Tomsula but this move is a complete joke to me from what they were saying they wanted to accomplish. How does this move help implement a cutting edge offense? It doesn't provide stability with an experienced head coach, and it threatens the defensive strength of the team with the pending loss of Fangio. It's nice to keep the locker room happy, but come on. All you coaching buffs please help me understand this move! I know that Singletary and Tomsula are two completely different guys, but it's the same scenario of elevating a popular position coach, and even the Raiders avoided this type of trap. Man.
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Post#25 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:54 pm

I'd have a few suggestions for the overall picture but personality wise and from a structural standpoint, Jim Tomsula would benefit very, very much if he could somehow bring in Marc Trestman as his offensive coordinator. He's the type of guy I'd like to see paired with Tomsula but there have been ZERO whispers that I've seen that would suggest that Tomsula has floated the idea out there to anybody and I haven't seen anything that says the man have ANY connection to each other at all.
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Post#26 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:56 pm

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RIPskaterdude wrote:I have to wonder, what the hell is wrong with fangio?


More than a lot of things or MAYBE more than anything, it's probably just been the wrong fit in a lot of owner's and GM's minds. He can be very confident, brash, outspoken and unpolished in many of the areas that an owner and GM want their HC to be polished. That has been leaked out by other teams before and it's been one of the biggest things to consider when you think of Fangio. PLEASE DO NOT think that that means that these owners want a guy that's more easily controllable but I think because of Fangio's make up there's a bit more volatility and uncertainty given his history when you consider a guy like him. It's been thought by some that he needs more time developing a better big picture idea or ideas before getting a HC job. If he had a big personality offensive mind that can handle his business in his back pocket I think that could go a long way to helping him get a job.


Just curious, how come not very many teams are lining up to interview and hire Fangio to be HC? Is it maybe because like NIners, they all believe he is a better DC than HC?
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Post#27 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:56 pm

Barrows has said this before and just reiterated on twitter again that he has been hearing a Tomsula interview did take place with each other last week so the early write-ups on the move saying the 49ers did not interview him and they knew what they had in him are possibly wrong if Barrows is right.
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Post#28 » by generaldreedle » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:57 pm

Rumors are that Tarver may be the dc
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Post#29 » by RedneckNiner » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:58 pm

Goodbye Vic hello Dennis Allen according to some rumors yay dead defense... Here's hoping for the best
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Post#30 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:00 pm

Don't love it. I love Tomsula as a DL coach, and I even think he could be a good HC on a daily basis. The primary question for me, like Chris, is the staff he'll bring in. Who is going to coach the offense? Who will groom our QB? We'll see.

I agree that this is going to be perceived as Jed bringing in a "yes man," which I don't think is correct as such, but man is there a ton of pressure on the organization - and Tomsula - to turn this around and return to challenging for the super bowl immediately.
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Post#31 » by Ease_Ur_Storm » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:00 pm

I'll wait and see who becomes OC before I go off again because that is the key to the transition. Not feeling very confident at all that they pull this off.
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Post#32 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:01 pm

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ChrisPozz wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:I have to wonder, what the hell is wrong with fangio?


More than a lot of things or MAYBE more than anything, it's probably just been the wrong fit in a lot of owner's and GM's minds. He can be very confident, brash, outspoken and unpolished in many of the areas that an owner and GM want their HC to be polished. That has been leaked out by other teams before and it's been one of the biggest things to consider when you think of Fangio. PLEASE DO NOT think that that means that these owners want a guy that's more easily controllable but I think because of Fangio's make up there's a bit more volatility and uncertainty given his history when you consider a guy like him. It's been thought by some that he needs more time developing a better big picture idea or ideas before getting a HC job. If he had a big personality offensive mind that can handle his business in his back pocket I think that could go a long way to helping him get a job.


Just curious, how come not very many teams are lining up to interview and hire Fangio to be HC? Is it maybe because like NIners, they all believe he is a better DC than HC?


Kind of goes back to what I've said in this thread IMO. It's a fit kind of thing. Fangio has been thought by many to not be a fit for all men kind of thing. For a lot of reasons. Doesn't make these people right. I'll put it another way. An unnamed high ranking anonymous team official from a team who has spoken to Fangio in the past said that he doesn't doubt that Fangio could be a successful head coach. He just doubts that he could ever do it with "the guys in our building." That's probably the best way to put what I described in a previous post. Again, there are many, many other things there that go along with him obviously but that's one of the main things to keep thinking about.
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Post#33 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:01 pm

I read somewhere once Tomsula was interested in Atlanta's OC.
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Post#35 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:02 pm

I don't like yes men.....

I dont like losing fangio to a supposed yes man....

Good luck to tomsula... I know there are plenty of positives but the question marks for me are still in red flag status
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Post#36 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:03 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:I read somewhere once Tomsula was interested in Atlanta's OC.


Dirk Koetter is now in Tampa Bay. Hired 6 days ago.
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Post#37 » by aaronlindstrom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:03 pm

I'd have to guess that 6:15 is the reason he was hired: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-pre ... im-Tomsula

Also, this may mean that we get to see another year of Cowboy!
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Post#38 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:04 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:I don't like yes men.....

I dont like losing fangio to a supposed yes man....

Good luck to tomsula... I know there are plenty of positives but the question marks for me are still in red flag status


Anybody that thinks the current Jim Tomsula is a yes man is incorrect. I'd like to put it another way and use other words but I'm trying not to come off as too rude. It's just a ridiculous thought. C'mon, guys.
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Post#39 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:04 pm

We may miss out on trestman too
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Re: Jim Tomsula, the new Niners' head coach 

Post#40 » by arich35 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:06 pm

I love Tomsola so I will really be rooting for him to do well

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