UPDATE: PG 61 - "Carmelo Anthony reaffirmed his desire to stay with Knicks in meeting with Phil Jackson today"

JBreezeNY · Post #21 » by **JBreezeNY** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:05 am

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

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So what are we even talking about :lol:

MetaKnick13 · Post #22 » by **MetaKnick13** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:06 am

It is about to get even uglier in New York.

ChaosHamster · Post #23 » by **ChaosHamster** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:06 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

Read on Twitter

So what are we even talking about

I'am pretty sure this quote came before one about sitting down and talking.

Otherwise it doesn't make any sense.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #24 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:06 am

fresko024 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:(Merged the two threads.)

You the real MVP

PeteW · Post #25 » by **PeteW** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:07 am

JBreezeNY wrote:Here's the thing if Phil feels it's best for Melo to stay then all these rumblings die down and that's the end of it.

Phil is in charge of every single player & contract on this team. Him going after Rose, Noah & Lee then trading Melo wouldn't make a lick of sense.

But Phil has a method to his senile madness so we'll see what the truth is.

It would make sense if he believes this season is over, the win-now experiment failed and it's time to rebuild.

god shammgod · Post #26 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:07 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

Read on Twitter

So what are we even talking about

i'm repeating myself but he's not gonna leave on his own. he really doesn't want to go. but if you tell him that you want to move him, that will be something else.

JBreezeNY · Post #27 » by **JBreezeNY** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:07 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

Read on Twitter

So what are we even talking about

I'am pretty sure this quote came before one about sitting down and talking.

Otherwise it doesn't make any sense.

I would hope so for Isola's sake.

Post #28 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:07 am

and the merry-go-round of roster turnover continues on and on and on

POTUS5 · Post #29 » by **POTUS5** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:08 am

He's gonna go to a contender & succeed.. The Knicks missed used this guy every year besides 2013 under Woodson.. They asked him to do things they knew he couldn't do.. Lead, mentor and carry them to the promise land.. I don't think he got what he deserved from management the pieces were never there for him to legit compete.. I don't blame Melo ..i blame management & ownership

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Rotten Apple · Post #30 » by **Rotten Apple** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:09 am

god shammgod wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

Read on Twitter

So what are we even talking about

i'm repeating myself but he's not gonna leave on his own. he really doesn't want to go. but if you tell him that you want to move him, that will be something else.

Pretty much, just tell him its over. Ask him which team(s) he wants to go to and work out a deal.

Post #31 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:09 am

Melo would seriously have to open up the list of destinations. This Cavs and Clippers only, screw that, it isn't personal, but I want what's best for the Knicks and neither of those teams have the resources to give back anything of value. Not even sure why the Cavs would even rock their boat at all.

The team is losing anyway, we aren't that far from a top 5 pick now, this next stretch of games will certainly pile the losses up even with Melo.

To be honest, this team can rebuild as is, they suck just that bad.

JBreezeNY · Post #32 » by **JBreezeNY** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:09 am

PeteW wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Here's the thing if Phil feels it's best for Melo to stay then all these rumblings die down and that's the end of it.

Phil is in charge of every single player & contract on this team. Him going after Rose, Noah & Lee then trading Melo wouldn't make a lick of sense.

But Phil has a method to his senile madness so we'll see what the truth is.

It would make sense if he believes this season is over, the win-now experiment failed and it's time to rebuild.

It still wouldn't make sense because you're becoming wishy-washy on your goals.

In less than a season after giving out these contracts and making it known you want to make the playoffs you decide to just blow it up?

Who is he, George Steinbrenner?

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #33 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:09 am

POTUS5 wrote:He's gonna go to a contender & succeed.. The Knicks missed used this guy every year besides 2013 under Woodson.. They asked him to do things they knew he couldn't do.. Lead, mentor and carry them to the promise land.. I don't think he got what he deserved from management the pieces were never there for him to legit compete.. I don't blame Melo ..i blame management & ownership

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I hope he succeeds but that doesn't mean it isn't right for both sides to part ways.

JBreezeNY · Post #34 » by **JBreezeNY** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:11 am

god shammgod wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:

Read on Twitter

So what are we even talking about

i'm repeating myself but he's not gonna leave on his own. he really doesn't want to go. but if you tell him that you want to move him, that will be something else.

Oh most definitely, if he feels unwanted by the front office he'll dip. Him feeling unwanted by the fans clearly hasn't deterred him but these rumors have ramped up especially the recent Rosen piece when everyone knows he's close with Phil.

Sark · Post #35 » by **Sark** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:11 am

JBreezeNY wrote:Here's the thing if Phil feels it's best for Melo to stay then all these rumblings die down and that's the end of it.

Phil is in charge of every single player & contract on this team. Him going after Rose, Noah & Lee then trading Melo wouldn't make a lick of sense.

But Phil has a method to his senile madness so we'll see what the truth is.

Phil gave it a last ditch effort to see if a Melo led team could do anything. Former MVP, former DPOY, second best sophmore ROY runner up, and a great role player in Lee. I think if you put that team around most of the top 10 players, you're gonna get a solid team. It's more talent than most other teams overall.

We're at the halfway point, and it didn't work.

islanders11040 · Post #36 » by **islanders11040** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:12 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
POTUS5 wrote:He's gonna go to a contender & succeed.. The Knicks missed used this guy every year besides 2013 under Woodson.. They asked him to do things they knew he couldn't do.. Lead, mentor and carry them to the promise land.. I don't think he got what he deserved from management the pieces were never there for him to legit compete.. I don't blame Melo ..i blame management & ownership

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I hope he succeeds but that doesn't mean it isn't right for both sides to part ways.

For real. We are no longer at the stage where having Melo makes much sense. I would love nothing more than Melo to leave and contribute on a championship team.

EchelonNYK · Post #37 » by **EchelonNYK** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:12 am

Do what you gotta do.

Jim Dolan · Post #38 » by **Jim Dolan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:12 am

whos gonna want him. he aint needed where he could possibly land.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #39 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:12 am

Sark wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Here's the thing if Phil feels it's best for Melo to stay then all these rumblings die down and that's the end of it.

Phil is in charge of every single player & contract on this team. Him going after Rose, Noah & Lee then trading Melo wouldn't make a lick of sense.

But Phil has a method to his senile madness so we'll see what the truth is.

Phil gave it a last ditch effort to see if a Melo led team could do anything. Former MVP, former DPOY, second best sophmore ROY runner up, and a great role player in Lee. I think if you put that team around most of the top 10 players, you're gonna get a solid team. It's more talent than most other teams overall.

We're at the halfway point, and it didn't work.

And from Melo's perspective (this was reported at the time through sources), you sign the max deal, lock up your $120 mm, and get traded elsewhere if it doesnt' work out. Was always the contingency plan.

Post #40 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:13 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
PeteW wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Here's the thing if Phil feels it's best for Melo to stay then all these rumblings die down and that's the end of it.

Phil is in charge of every single player & contract on this team. Him going after Rose, Noah & Lee then trading Melo wouldn't make a lick of sense.

But Phil has a method to his senile madness so we'll see what the truth is.

It would make sense if he believes this season is over, the win-now experiment failed and it's time to rebuild.

It still wouldn't make sense because you're becoming wishy-washy on your goals.

In less than a season after giving out these contracts and making it known you want to make the playoffs you decide to just blow it up?

Who is he, George Steinbrenner?

Other than Noah, he really didn't spend long term, and I don't think he brought Noah in primarily for his on court production anyway.

Rose is a one year deal, Lee is a role player signing, and easily movable. The notion that Phil went "all-in" really isn't true.