Atlanta - Brooklyn - Charlotte

[Mystical Apples]

Last 2 years with Houston; same story, different team. Pretty sure things ended badly with LAL and ORL too.

Howard On, Beard Off
NetRtg: -5.6
DefRtg: 106.2


Beard On, $1.2M Clint Capela On
NetRtg: +2.0
DefRtg: 108.7

[Spens1]

Honestly if i'm Brooklyn, i'd actually go for the Howard-Lopez swap, as crazy as it is.

Howard can be his own star and it wouldn't be with much consequence. You're giving up lopez who is expiring, for Howard who isn't on the worst deal either.

He's a big star with name value that is up there (even if it doesn't match his corresponding play), one thing brooklyn has been able to do is bring in big name talent (without mortgaging their future, thanks billy king).

[Prokorov]

No for the nets.... getting rid of lopez and taking on salary defeats the purpose. id rather just let brook walk. I like kominsky but i also dont want to give him a big contract in a couple years.

I'd need charlottes pick coming back to make this work

[spaceballer]

I understand Lopez doesnt carry much value

I think Brookie the Wookie has increased his value by adapting his game to the modern NBA with his new 3pt shot. An article was released two days ago on NBA.com about it.

http://global.nba.com/news/brook-lopez-reinvented-game-9th-season/

Some snippets:

Brooklyn Nets center Brook Lopez came into this year with three 3-pointers in eight NBA seasons. He hit five alone in the first quarter during a win over the Knicks on March 12.

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In a basketball age where traditional back to the basket centers are becoming obsolete, Lopez and the staff agreed that extending his range beyond the arc would be mutually beneficial for himself and the team. Lopez wound up leading the Nets in both 3s made and attempted, connecting on a career-high 134 during his 75 games played.

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His newfound love for the long ball took his career to new heights.

Lopez became the first Nets player in history to record 100 3s and 100 blocks in the same season, a rare feat that had been only done by nine players in NBA history prior to this year. Additionally, he set an NBA record during a February 15 game against the Bucks by becoming the first player to ever record eight blocks and make six 3-pointers in the same game.

His ability to stretch the floor on offense while still occupying the paint and protecting the rim effectively on the other end was impressive. So too was his efficiency from downtown, as it’s one thing to simply start taking more 3-pointers but another to actually make them at a decent clip. For comparison’s sake, Lopez hit one fewer 3-pointer than Hornets swingman Nicolas Batum, yet connected at a higher rate (34.6% to 33.3%).

He does have his flaws, as does almost every player in the league, but I do think the new 3pt shot has increased the value of Big Disney.

If the right deal is not out there, I don't think the Nets would mind keeping Brookie the Wookie. Just like how Sean Marks kept Brook past the trade deadline because he wasn't being offered enough value back in his eyes, despite everyone being sure that Brook would be traded at the deadline.

Woj's the Vertical had a podcast where they mentioned that the Nets will not just give BroLo away.

He may or may not be traded this summer, but only moved if the right deal is out there returning good value. I think it is just as likely that he stays because other teams don't value him as much.

There was an interesting insight in an article a while back that one reason trades may be more likely between franchises that share the same pedigree/management tree (FO trees, just like coaching trees) is because of similar perceptions of value. Trades get done when the two sides agree on value.

Bro-pez has increased his value by shooting the 3 (better than Batum and on nearly identical volume). He may do even better next year since this was his first season shooting 3s (stunning since he only had three 3pts combined over the past 8 seasons). Unicorn Brook matched unicorn Porzingis with 100 blocks and 100 3pters. Brook came close to beating Dirk's record for a 7fter shooting 3s (short by 20 or something, I think, partly due to resting games).

At the beginning of the year, Atkinson and Brook both mentioned that they were onboard with the plan of resting Brook on back to back games to begin the season, and that there was a long term plan in place to build up his stamina, despite how frustrating it was for Brook to not be on the floor helping his teammates. Naysayers said that the Nets were just trying to keep him out of games so that they could trade him at the deadline without his being injured. But he was not traded, and we are seeing the fruition of that longterm player development plan. At his exit interview, Sean Marks mentioned how impressed he was that Brook reshaped his body and conditioning to suit a high tempo offense. Now that the new performance team has improved his conditioning and stamina so that hopefully he won't have to sit out back to back games anymore, he should get enough shots with the extra games to really challenge Dirk's record next year. Especially if he can improve with practice, after this first season of shooting 3s, where he is already more efficient than Batum from 3 on identical volume.

The Nets did not spend a season developing Brook's 3pt shot and his new conditioning to fit a modern high tempo offense just to give him away. If the right deal is there, they may trade him. But if the league doesn't see the same value, he will stay a Net, just like at the deadline. The same self-assured critics who were wrong with their prediction that he would 100% be traded at the deadline may be wrong again.

I do think the 3pt shot and new conditioning to fit a high tempo offense make him better adapted for the modern NBA.

(Brookie the Wookie, Big Disney, BroLo, Bro-pez. Guy has a lot of nicknames With Brook-Lin being the latest in tandem with JLin.)

Brook is available, I think, but only if the right deal is there. If not, the Nets keep him and are fine with that, just like at the deadline when teams weren't willing to offer what Marks considered fair value and thought he set too high a price.

[FNQ]

I got swamped before I checked your reply, but once I saw Brookie the Wookie I lost my **** and I just cant focus now. I'll be back with a legit response once I collect it

[sportscrazy]

No for the nets.... getting rid of lopez and taking on salary defeats the purpose. id rather just let brook walk. I like kominsky but i also dont want to give him a big contract in a couple years.

I'd need charlottes pick coming back to make this work

What if it was a top 10 protected 2018 1st from Charlotte?

[spaceballer]

I got swamped before I checked your reply, but once I saw Brookie the Wookie I lost my **** and I just cant focus now. I'll be back with a legit response once I collect it

It is actually his instagram handle
https://www.instagram.com/brookiethewookie11/

He is a huge Star Wars and Disney fan. He has dressed up as a Wookie before and said that he wants the job if the current 7ft actor who plays the Chewbacca character retires, he and his twin even sought the original Chewbacca guy out at Disney to take pictures. They had a bobble head night with a figure of Brook's face on a Wookie body. He brings teammates to Disney Land and Disney World whenever on road trips in Orlando or California. His offseason vacation pictures are of him and his twin visiting newly opened Disney theme parks overseas in Asia. He even bought a Florida house built on Disney owned land and property right next to the amusement park so that he could be neighbors with Mickey and pop over whenever he wanted.

[Prokorov]

No for the nets.... getting rid of lopez and taking on salary defeats the purpose. id rather just let brook walk. I like kominsky but i also dont want to give him a big contract in a couple years.

I'd need charlottes pick coming back to make this work

What if it was a top 10 protected 2018 1st from Charlotte?

the protection kills it for me.... because i think lopez would actually make them worse at first, and i can see them being lotto next year with them losing kominsky and adding lopez.

[yosemiteben]

No for the nets.... getting rid of lopez and taking on salary defeats the purpose. id rather just let brook walk. I like kominsky but i also dont want to give him a big contract in a couple years.

I'd need charlottes pick coming back to make this work

What if it was a top 10 protected 2018 1st from Charlotte?

That's not happening.

[parson]

BKN fans need to realize that, if CHA agreed to send out their 1st, ATL would cut out BKN.

Still, it's good to see the discussion of whether or not CHA could afford to send the pick.

[HornetJail]

The 1st would be a no (unless we're top 18 protecting our next year's first, otherwise becoming 2nd rounders, or something like that). So don't bother trying to make us add a 1st.