Draft Lottery Reform & Resting Player Fines, Approved by B of Gov's. 09-28-17 ~ Woj

[Crossy2008]

Initial reaction: Cavs got a killing for Kyrie

IT will miss time: Ok, this is a little fairer.

Brooklyn finishes with the worst record and Cavs get the 12th pick: Ainge might be God.

I think they should do a live broadcast. 14 balls, and let the order fall where it may.

Last thing you need is 8th seed candidates tanking during the last week of the regular season.

There's a lot of money to be made in the playoffs. Plus the players want a shot at the playoffs. That's what it's all about right. There's incentive to make the playoffs from the owner to the coach to the players, and of course the fans (most of them anyways).

[Gant]

Prediction: No matter what they do it will have unintended effects, and it still won't stop tanking and might even increase it.

Teams will always tank. If the worst 3 have the best odds, teams will tank for the top 3. If 4,5,6 have better odds than 7,8,9, teams will tank for 6, and so on. Tanking might be shifted, but it won't be eliminated.

Plus there's a good business reason for the worst teams getting the best pick. You have to either sell the hope of winning or the hope of drafting a great player. There's also a good reason competition-wise.

There's nothing wrong with changing the system, but it won't do what they expect it to.

[Asian Celtic]

Ainge **** violated the Cavs, lol.

I can already see you screwing the GB again lmao.

[Darth Celtic]

Ainge **** violated the Cavs, lol.

won't take effect until 2019 at earliest

[jfs1000d]

Dude. We trade nets pick and they have lottery reform? Lol.


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[Captain_Caveman]

I think they should do a live broadcast. 14 balls, and let the order fall where it may.

Last thing you need is 8th seed candidates tanking during the last week of the regular season.

There's a lot of money to be made in the playoffs. Plus the players want a shot at the playoffs. That's what it's all about right. There's incentive to make the playoffs from the owner to the coach to the players, and of course the fans (most of them anyways).

If I am the Grizz or Blazers and looking at a choice between a 22% shot at a top 3 pick in a strong draft or a 100% chance of an assbeating from the Warriors, I know what I am doing.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Well, if an equalization of Lottery Odds goes in to effect for the Bottom Lottery Teams of 2019,
that Sacramento or Philly Number One would seem to have much more value now, if the Celts miss out on the Lakers Pick...

[chakdaddy]

Prediction: No matter what they do it will have unintended effects, and it still won't stop tanking and might even increase it.

Teams will always tank. If the worst 3 have the best odds, teams will tank for the top 3. If 4,5,6 have better odds than 7,8,9, teams will tank for 6, and so on. Tanking might be shifted, but it won't be eliminated.

Plus there's a good business reason for the worst teams getting the best pick. You have to either sell the hope of winning or the hope of drafting a great player. There's also a good reason competition-wise.

There's nothing wrong with changing the system, but it won't do what they expect it to.

I disagree. It's very possible to make a system where the odds very slightly change from one seed to the next; making the benefit of tanking within a season very limited. The previously rejected system would have accomplished this. Unless you mean Sixer process rebuilds which is impossible to stop.

[Darth Celtic]

could make the griz pick in 20++ better

[gocelts]

Once you get a top 3 pick, the highest pick you can get is say 4 for the next 3 years. That's it.

Changing the odds is just stupid. Really bad teams should get to pick at the top. They just can keep picking there over and over.

[KGboss]

Like I said in another thread, I just hope this screws the cavs, but it also makes our Lakers pick very uncertain as well

[Disinformation]

Ainge **** violated the Cavs, lol.

Initial reaction: Cavs got a killing for Kyrie

IT will miss time: Ok, this is a little fairer.

Brooklyn finishes with the worst record and Cavs get the 12th pick: Ainge might be God.

I think they should do a live broadcast. 14 balls, and let the order fall where it may.

This is the right answer. Make the process transparent and stop rewarding incompetence.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Like I said in another thread, I just hope this screws the cavs, but it also makes our Lakers pick very uncertain as well

Yup. Pissed me off today on how their GM tried to shut down all questions regarding the hip. Ironic since they went crying to Wojnarowski about it 2 weeks ago.

[djFan71]

Once you get a top 3 pick, the highest pick you can get is say 4 for the next 3 years. That's it.

Changing the odds is just stupid. Really bad teams should get to pick at the top. They just can keep picking there over and over.

I like something along these lines. Still keep some lottery, but you're ineligible for top 3 if you got it the previous season.
LOL, unless it's not your own pick...

Wouldn't prevent the one-year Spurs-type dip and Duncan, but would clamp down on the process.

[sully00]

Ainge **** violated the Cavs, lol.

And the Sixers.

[Big Baby]

What about lotto playoffs? I think Bill Simmons threw this idea out there once. 8 worst teams play each other for a shot at the top pick?

[chakdaddy]

Once you get a top 3 pick, the highest pick you can get is say 4 for the next 3 years. That's it.

Changing the odds is just stupid. Really bad teams should get to pick at the top. They just can keep picking there over and over.

I like something along these lines. Still keep some lottery, but you're ineligible for top 3 if you got it the previous season.
LOL, unless it's not your own pick...


Wouldn't prevent the one-year Spurs-type dip and Duncan, but would clamp down on the process.

The Spurs type is much worse though. This idea is almost as bad as the wheel. We drop to #3 and are barred from winning the next year?

Just smooth the odds. Simple. Eff these gimmicks.

[Andrew McCeltic]

What about lotto playoffs? I think Bill Simmons threw this idea out there once. 8 worst teams play each other for a shot at the top pick?

You could do something like, bottom 4 teams play for the top pick, next 4 play for the fifth pick, next 4 for the ninth - in a shorter series, best of 3 or best of 5. Otherwise you get something where the top pick can end up going to the eighth worst team year after year.

[Afam]

Either award the worst team with the top pick ( Like the NFL) or do away with the NBA draft all together, and come up with something different. Adding more teams is just going to cause more confusion, penalizing small market teams, and making the strong teams even stronger. Imagine teams like Golden state or Spurs winning the lottery or getting a high pick. Bad idea.

[KevinGamble34]

Once you get a top 3 pick, the highest pick you can get is say 4 for the next 3 years. That's it.

Changing the odds is just stupid. Really bad teams should get to pick at the top. They just can keep picking there over and over.

I like this idea - will stop teams constructing their roster to be a bad team. Also may help with the resting of vets towards the end of the season like the Lakers did last year.

Was suggested in this tweet below but for 2 years instead of 4.

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