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OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays

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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#21 » by Dennis 37 » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:46 pm

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Brinbe wrote:This can only be a good thing


Playoffs twice since '93. Sell.


Never understood why the building rights couldn't have been Rogers Skydome or Scotiabank Raptors Outpost or whatever so the building identity has continuity. The Raps home will now always be the ACC. Might as well call it The Richer Than You Think Home of Air Canada Carter. Then that changes to Google Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Mingles.com Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Vince's Palace brought to you by Payday Loans fking people over since rules allowed loan sharks into the lending market without breaking kneecaps.


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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#22 » by Westside Gunn » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:47 pm

I'm not sure what more you could want from your ownership. They did spend money when needed. You could say they dodged a bullet with Price

I have seldomly watched baseball in the Anthopolus era, care to expand on why Rogers were terrible owners?
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#23 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:48 pm

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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#24 » by Patman » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:52 pm

Big Mac Biyombo wrote:
Kc17 wrote:Surely Rogers could just sell to MLSE, they keep half control, and Bell takes half control. Then you have the whole city of sports teams under one massive ownership group.

Great. Then we can add more TSN stations to cover the Bell Jays games. Of course this will come at a fee. Don't worry though; you'll still be forced to pay for stations where the NHL games are blacked out every night.


You don't need cable. You can get digital subscriptions and watch games via TSN and SportsNet apps. But of course, once net neutrality is overthrown and Bell/Rogers starts throttling speed and usage, you'll have to pay extra. :wink:
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#25 » by Big Mac Biyombo » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:53 pm

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Kc17 wrote:Surely Rogers could just sell to MLSE, they keep half control, and Bell takes half control. Then you have the whole city of sports teams under one massive ownership group.

Great. Then we can add more TSN stations to cover the Bell Jays games. Of course this will come at a fee. Don't worry though; you'll still be forced to pay for stations where the NHL games are blacked out every night.


You don't need cable. You can get digital subscriptions and watch games via TSN and SportsNet apps. But of course, once net neutrality is overthrown and Bell/Rogers starts throttling speed and usage, you'll have to pay extra. :wink:

I know you're joking, but Bell actually suggested something along those lines earlier this year. The CRTC was not interested luckily.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#26 » by LRJ » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:55 pm

Grass isn't always greener.

I think if they sell, there's a pretty big chance that payroll will go down.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#27 » by Tanner » Wed Dec 6, 2017 4:56 pm

Garlic Sauce wrote:I'm not sure what more you could want from your ownership. They did spend money when needed. You could say they dodged a bullet with Price

I have seldomly watched baseball in the Anthopolus era, care to expand on why Rogers were terrible owners?


They were not terrible owners. They valued profit over building a championship team, which is just the life of a sports team owned by a corporate entity. The issue was the Jays could never do a long term rebuild under Rogers because it would hurt profit, and could never build a consistent winner because Rogers would usually increase payroll/force contention when the team wasn't ready for the extra money, so it always lead to the same general .500 team that they essentially were from 1994-2014. Never bad, but never good either.

Overall though, it is a stable ownership group that hired a good baseball person in Shapiro to lead them (even if they fell into it ass backwards). A new owner might be better, or could be worse. The Jays need a rich owner who lets Shapiro build the team the way he wants to build it. Shapiro probably wants to rebuild now but can't due to Rogers. You don't want to have ownership dictate team direction, just provide a budget and let the baseball ops do what they do.

Five years from now we will either be glad that Rogers is gone, or wishing they were still around. Probably no in between.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#28 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Dec 6, 2017 5:02 pm

Jeff Bezos sets up a 2nd headquarters for Amazon in Toronto and then buys the Jays. If the team ever runs out of equipment, Amazon can ship the items to SkyDome with same day delivery.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#29 » by Jonas DeRoss » Wed Dec 6, 2017 5:09 pm

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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#30 » by LLJ » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:07 pm

I have heard rumblings about Rogers being in more trouble than advertised, financially. You would think that isn't the case given how powerful they are in Ontario, but...
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#31 » by Wo1verine » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:09 pm

Tanner wrote:Baseball doesn't have a lot of corporate ownership. How many billionaires in Canada want to own a baseball team? Lets start there.

I think it will be group purchase should Rogers pull the trigger.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#32 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:17 pm

Tim Leiweke and Oak View Group should buy the team.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#33 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:26 pm

icoholic wrote:I haven't disliked the Rogers ownership of the Blue Jays, this is interesting.

https://www.tsn.ca/report-rogers-considering-selling-blue-jays-1.935709


They have done a lot of positives by renovating the stadium/ increasing fan interest (they hired the right people to do these things), however running AA out of town probably ruins all the good they have done.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#34 » by MavCarter » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:30 pm

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icoholic wrote:I haven't disliked the Rogers ownership of the Blue Jays, this is interesting.

https://www.tsn.ca/report-rogers-considering-selling-blue-jays-1.935709


They have done a lot of positives by renovating the stadium/ increasing fan interest (they hired the right people to do these things), however running AA out of town probably ruins all the good they have done.



AA was overrated AF
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#35 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Dec 6, 2017 6:33 pm

It would not surprise me if this decision has something to do with this:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-rogers-centre-future-1.4079505

Last year, the Blue Jays and Rogers Communications, which owns the team, put a call out for architectural and design firms to submit their best ideas for revamping the stadium. The team has selected a firm, but it hasn't been made public and no early renderings revealing how this project might take shape have been made available.

The Blue Jays also haven't confirmed how much they'll spend on the project, but initial figures suggest something in the $250-400 million range.


It follows logically that if Rogers is looking to invest in other products that they would sell now before putting that kind of money and effort into the stadium. Plus, my guess is that a new ownership group would want to put their stamp on that renovation.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#36 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:20 pm

MavCarter wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
icoholic wrote:I haven't disliked the Rogers ownership of the Blue Jays, this is interesting.

https://www.tsn.ca/report-rogers-considering-selling-blue-jays-1.935709


They have done a lot of positives by renovating the stadium/ increasing fan interest (they hired the right people to do these things), however running AA out of town probably ruins all the good they have done.



AA was overrated AF


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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#37 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:35 pm

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OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Brinbe wrote:This can only be a good thing


Playoffs twice since '93. Sell.


Never understood why the building rights couldn't have been Rogers Skydome or Scotiabank Raptors Outpost or whatever so the building identity has continuity. The Raps home will now always be the ACC. Might as well call it The Richer Than You Think Home of Air Canada Carter. Then that changes to Google Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Mingles.com Home of Air Canada Carter. Or Vince's Palace brought to you by Payday Loans fking people over since rules allowed loan sharks into the lending market without breaking kneecaps.


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Your rant against sponsorship will fall on deaf ears. All my expressions of frustration over advertising creep have been met with encouragement that I get with the times. Young people have been conditioned to accept advertising everywhere and that tradition must take a back seat.


Yup...must be the young people...

...or....

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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#38 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:38 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
icoholic wrote:I haven't disliked the Rogers ownership of the Blue Jays, this is interesting.

https://www.tsn.ca/report-rogers-considering-selling-blue-jays-1.935709


They have done a lot of positives by renovating the stadium/ increasing fan interest (they hired the right people to do these things), however running AA out of town probably ruins all the good they have done.


They haven't really renovated anything. Rogers Centre is a dump. Worst fan experience in MLB by far.

Concessions are disgusting. Teams around the league are providing a great variety and awesome food. We sell garbage hot dogs and pizza. It's crap. They should be bringing places like Porcetta and Co, PG Clucks fried chicken, Sweet Jesus, etc. No vision, and that goes back to ownership who dont really care about the whole fan experience. Lighting is awful too.

Seating is terrible. You can't enjoy a full 9 innings without your a** , legs and back destroyed by the end of it.

Only thing that's cool was the windows resto turned into the standing area. That's it.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#39 » by Westside Gunn » Wed Dec 6, 2017 7:48 pm

Is demolishing the skydome where it is a possibility? City could use that for a big park but they will most likely use it to build more condos.

A baseball park seems very out of place in the middle of condos.
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Re: OT: Rogers Considering Sale of Blue Jays 

Post#40 » by Inevitable » Wed Dec 6, 2017 8:02 pm

Garlic Sauce wrote:Is demolishing the skydome where it is a possibility? City could use that for a big park but they will most likely use it to build more condos.

A baseball park seems very out of place in the middle of condos.

If the city was actually serious they would invest in transit into the don lands create a real ball park (perhaps by new ownership) and community. All I know is that Waterfront Toronto has been mulling for so many years about developing that area yet nothing has been done as far as I can tell.

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