Preseason Rankings - Top 16

[Asif16]

They played great in the RS, but are kind of weak against good competition. I think they suffer if they are against the West

If they land Kawhi, they will move up

They were 19-11 against the west and of course some of those losses were against GS.

They were a great system team with no adaptability. When matchups become planned for, and their system was adapted to, they choked.

You mean Lebron?

[euroleague]

They were 19-11 against the west and of course some of those losses were against GS.

They were a great system team with no adaptability. When matchups become planned for, and their system was adapted to, they choked.

You mean Lebron?

Wizards, Bucks, every team these past few years

[Vampirate]

I think the Wiz are too low. We added Jeff Green, Rivers and Howard. Beal, Porter and Oubre are each under 25 and should come back better next season. Wall is 27 and is also just entering there prime. We finished 8th in the east last year and that was with Wall missing significant time. If we are healthy, I expect that we'll finish significantly higher this year.

Losing to the team that choked to Lebron isn't a great look.

[Asif16]

People sleep on the Raptors at the start of every year lmao.

Warriors
Rockets
Celtics
Raptors
Jazz
Thunder
Nuggets
Lakers
Spurs (With Kawhi)
Sixers
Blazers
Pacers
Bucks
Timberwolves
Wizards
Pelicans

[Asif16]

They were a great system team with no adaptability. When matchups become planned for, and their system was adapted to, they choked.

You mean Lebron?

Wizards, Bucks, every team these past few years

Lol how did we choke against those team? Give me a break. Raps got the most playoff wins the last 4 years, behind the Warriors/Cavs. The only team/player to beat them last 3 years is Lebron himself.

[TheBobster]

1. Golden State
2. Houston
3. Boston
4. Toronto
5. Philadelphia
6. Utah
7. Denver
8. LA Lakers
9. Indiana
10. Oklahoma City
11. San Antonio
12. Minnesota
13. Washington
14. New Orleans
15. Portland
16. Milwaukee

[BeatDaCavs420]

Bulls will make playoffs

On the bright side if we don't then we can add another young asset hopefully with a solid draft pick

[Larry Legend 33]

Grizzlies at #7? I get Conley is coming back but he isn't worth ~25 wins by himself in the Western conference. Get real, they're still a lottery team

[mowcrowbar]

The Heat are always underrated.

Because they onjectively suck and have no future pieces.

[spicy6]

People sleep on the Raptors at the start of every year lmao.

Warriors
Rockets
Celtics
Raptors
Jazz
Thunder
Nuggets
Lakers
Spurs (With Kawhi)
Sixers
Blazers
Pacers
Bucks
Timberwolves
Wizards
Pelicans

Theyre not wrong to have either

[dukes_wild]

I thought people learned their lesson last year. Didn't many people on here think we would take a step back because we lost a few vets?

If one thing has been perfectly clear a Lowry/DD/JV core will produce 50+ wins in their sleep.

[prime1time]

1. Warriors
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Lakers
6. Philly
7. Denver
8. Toronto
9. Spurs (with Kawhi)
10. Thunder
11. Indy
12. Pelicans
13. Portland
14. Memphis
15. Bucks
16. Minny/WSH

Why the large gap between Toronto and Washington? Also, why is Utah so high?

[Asif16]

People sleep on the Raptors at the start of every year lmao.

Warriors
Rockets
Celtics
Raptors
Jazz
Thunder
Nuggets
Lakers
Spurs (With Kawhi)
Sixers
Blazers
Pacers
Bucks
Timberwolves
Wizards
Pelicans

They're not wrong to have either

I mean...if you wanna sound clueless when talking NBA, then I guess then yeah sure

[TheBabyMaker]

1. Warriors
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Lakers
6. Philly
7. Denver
8. Toronto
9. Spurs (with Kawhi)
10. Thunder
11. Indy
12. Pelicans
13. Portland
14. Memphis
15. Bucks
16. Minny/WSH

Why the large gap between Toronto and Washington? Also, why is Utah so high?

VanVleet owns Washington and Utah is overrated just like OKC and Spurs being ranked LMFAO. Duncan and Parker aint walking through that door no more.

[RaptorPride]

Watch out for Siakam but for real every year Raptors are projected low and go on to be top 3 in the east. The amount the hate we get for choking against LeBron but ask your self how many teams in the east have beaten him?

[Duke4life831]

1. Warriors
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Lakers
6. Philly
7. Denver
8. Toronto
9. Spurs (with Kawhi)
10. Thunder
11. Indy
12. Pelicans
13. Portland
14. Memphis
15. Bucks
16. Minny/WSH

Why the large gap between Toronto and Washington? Also, why is Utah so high?

Toronto was 16 games better during the regular season and beat Washington in the playoffs. I get Washington added Dwight but Im not sure really how much that is going to add to Washington. Also to be fair I think the bottom 8-9 are pretty close, so someone could easily make an argument for Toronto to be a little lower and for Washington to be a little higher and I probably wouldnt fight it much.

I have Utah really high because I just think they are a very well built team that has very little flaws. Im also going on faith that Mitchell makes a nice size jump and we see his efficiency offensively take a solid jump. I think theyre going to be one of the best coached teams, one of the deepest and probably the best defensive team as well. The loss of Ariza and Mbah for Houston is a big loss for their defense in my opinion and I think we will see Utah be the better and more complete team come next playoffs.

[RaptorsLife]

Lol raptors being 12th

[Duke4life831]

1. Warriors
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Lakers
6. Philly
7. Denver
8. Toronto
9. Spurs (with Kawhi)
10. Thunder
11. Indy
12. Pelicans
13. Portland
14. Memphis
15. Bucks
16. Minny/WSH

Why the large gap between Toronto and Washington? Also, why is Utah so high?

VanVleet owns Washington and Utah is overrated just like OKC and Spurs being ranked LMFAO. Duncan and Parker aint walking through that door no more.

Last time we saw Kawhi healthy San Antonio was a 61 win team. I also think next year Murray will have a better impact than 2016-2017 Tony Parker had. I dont think the Spurs will be a 61 win team, but with Kawhi I think theyre going to be a really solid team.

[Asif16]

Watch out for Siakam but for real every year Raptors are projected low and go on to be top 3 in the east. The amount the hate we get for choking against LeBron but ask your self how many teams in the east have beaten him?

I find it funny when other fanbases (especially in the East) trash talk the raptors when Lebron sweeps us, knowing damn well the Raptors would've wiped the floor against their team the past 3 years. I dont see Lebron walking through that door for your team

[undertaker0]

1. Warriors
2. Boston
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Lakers
6. Philly
7. Denver
8. Toronto
9. Spurs (with Kawhi)
10. Thunder
11. Indy
12. Pelicans
13. Portland
14. Memphis
15. Bucks
16. Minny/WSH

Why the large gap between Toronto and Washington? Also, why is Utah so high?

VanVleet owns Washington and Utah is overrated just like OKC and Spurs being ranked LMFAO. Duncan and Parker aint walking through that door no more.

I'm sorry but Van Vleet does not own anyone