2019 NBA draft part deux

[UnFadeable21]

I’m warming up to Hachimura. I’m a Clarke guy because I believe he could play the perfect role for the 4 spot. I don’t think we need a star scorer or player.

We need to stay healthy. I wonder how HachiMura and KAT would play together.

[KGdaBom]

Watch on YouTube

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I'm impressed. I'd rather trade down and take him and NAW than Bol Bol or Clarke at #11.

Very intriqued! Looks like a bigger even more beastly version of Montrezl Harrell. Must be some glaring negatives that he looks like a top 5 pick and isn't projected to go top 20? I love me some AGGRESSION! Between him and Okoge I would be in ecstacy.

Never, ever, ever use highlights as a way of determining how good or not good a player is. Highlights by definition are skipping all negative plays and just showing the good plays. Use game film that shows the good, the bad, and the ugly to get a good indicator of the players abilities. That said he does look Beastly in the highlights.

[KGdaBom]

Very intriqued! Looks like a bigger even more beastly version of Montrezl Harrell. Must be some glaring negatives that he looks like a top 5 pick and isn't projected to go top 20? I love me some AGGRESSION! Between him and Okoge I would be in ecstacy.

Watched every single game he's played (I'm a maryland fan) and I genuinely feel like this guy will be a steal. Like the bam comparison. He plays with crazy passion and he's gotten a lot better passing in the post and in the nba he won't be doubled as much so I don't see that as a big issue anyway. Post moves have gotten substantially better since last season and his shot is better than you'd imagine given he rarely shoots, but his ft% might indicate he's a little better long range than he lets on. And being coached by turgeon doesn't help his stock at all. But he's just an uber athlete which always helps. Great defender and he runs the floor constantly. Really like his fit in today's game. Won't be a volume scorer and I don't know where he'll be picked but he'll definitely have a role somewhere

So I’ve watched every Maryland game this year and I’ll try and give you a little insight.

I love Bruno and I think he’s gonna end up being a steal for someone in the mid-late lottery, if not even later. There are two main reasons he most likely won’t go top 5: 1) The center depth in the league is as deep as it has ever been, and most teams drafting high don’t really need a center; 2) He lacks superstar potential. While I think he will be a top end starter in the league in a few years, he lacks the elite size or feel necessary to be a superstar center like Embiid and Jokic. Many teams favor rolling the dice on a guy with more upside at a position of more need. Also, in spite of his great shot blocking ability, he does have major defensive concerns. Like most young bigs, he struggles with fouling, though he showed enormous improvement year 1 -> year 2. While he is an incredible athlete and unbelievably explosive for his size, he’s a little slow laterally and not someone who can guard perimeter players for extended periods of time. Lastly, while I love his mentality and emotional play style, his focus waxes and wanes, particularly early in games, and that has led to too many easy buckets for Maryland’s opponents.

I don’t think the Adebayo comparison is accurate, Bruno is a little less mobile and way more skilled as a prospect. I think his ceiling is probably a more athletic Vucevic and his floor is solid backup big. I have a lot of faith in him reaching his full potential, he has an incredible work ethic and a natural touch, and I’m personally rooting for him to be drafted by LA or San Antonio.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/ba1ob1/why_arent_more_people_talking_about_bruno_fernando/

Nice link. Bruno is an intriguing prospect. For those that want the best view of him click the link and read it all.

[KGdaBom]

Here's the NBA Draft Room Scouting report on Bruno Fernando.

Overview

A late-blooming big man from Angola who has NBA size and a lot of potential. He's far from a finished package and will likely take a few years to contribute at the next level but he's got an intriguing mix of size, length and athleticism.

Strengths
Has an NBA frame with broad shoulders, excellent strength and length
Knows his role and does a lot of the dirty work of rebounding, defending, setting screens and crashing the glass
Holds position well and isn't afraid to mix it up in the lane, on both ends of the floor
Hits a good percentage from the foul line (mid 70's) and will likely develop a jump shot as his game matures
Has excellent mobility for his size, showing good balance, developing footwork and open court speed.
Weaknesses
Has a limited offensive game and scores mostly on put-backs and dunks
Doesn't handle the ball well
Lacks a consistent mid range shot
Turnover prone and foul prone
Comparisons
Ian Mahinmi
Festus Ezeli
Projection: late first to mid second round pick in the 2018 or 2019 NBA Draft

They mocked him to the Thunder at pick 21.

[KGdaBom]

I have been shying away from Centers since we obviously have KAT. However if Jaxson Hayes somehow slides to us I would have to pull the trigger on him. Just turned 19 last week,runs the floor like a gazelle, 6'11.5" with 7'3.5" wingspan, shot 73% from the field and 74% from the line. Here is his NBA draft room scouting report.

An under-recruited center who had an outstanding Freshman season for the Longhorns. Unfortunately his season was cut short by a knee injury (thankfully just a bone bruise) in the conference tournament. It remains to be seen how much he will work out for NBA teams leading up to the draft.

Hayes experienced a late growth spurt in high school and went from being a virtual unknown (and a damn good football player) to being a potential NBA lottery pick.

Strengths
Has great size and athleticism. Moves his feet well, establishes position on defense and changes ends in a hurry.
Has very good hands and catches everything thrown his way.
Has good touch around the rim and is starting to put it all together on the offensive end (shot 72.8% from the field and 74% from the ft line as a Freshman).
An excellent shot blocker with natural defensive instincts. Does a good job of going vertical and contesting shots without drawing the foul. Gets off his feet quickly. Averaged 2.2 blocks in just 23 minutes per game.
Weaknesses
Still very raw and figuring things out on both ends of the floor.
Shows flashes of shooting ability but isn't yet consistent enough from mid range.
Comparisons
Has some Hassan Whiteside in his game.
Built like JaVale McGee but stronger and with a more advanced game.
Projection: lottery pick in the 2019 or 2020 NBA Draft

[minimus]

I have been shying away from Centers since we obviously have KAT.

Yes, I agree. But I would look to improve talent level in general. Get late FRP, or early SRP, get BPA, get as many assets as we can and develop them. Talen Horton-Tucker, Kevin Porte Jr, Bruno Fernando, Matisse Thybulle, Samanic etc.

[Killboard]

Trading down is enticing, but highly depends on how other teams value guys in the wolves range and make an effort to get them.
If they are fine picking whoever falls then the trade wont be worth it since the wolves will have to send more value than they are getting back to motivate them. The trade down only is good when team are irrational about how they feel with a guy in our range.

If nobody really loves a guy with the wolves pick then you better use scouting to project the best output of the 50 picks available behind you.

[vagelis]

Watch on YouTube

I'm impressed. I'd rather trade down and take him and NAW than Bol Bol or Clarke at #11.

I am impressed too! He seems really good

[alabamawolf]

Free agency needs to start before the draft.

I fully agree, it would make facilitating trades for cap-space significantly easier, and would add a lot of depth to surrounding free-agents with players that compliment them.

That aside, I am not opposed to trading down to draft Tyler Herro. I think he would be an excellent option to develop for a couple years, he is going to be a quality player long-term.

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

[Killboard]

As day passes Im confident Nickeil Alexander Walker would be my pick. The guy traveled to the US to pursuit a NBA career. He lived with his uncle and cousin (SGA), who were the reason to keep working and improve like he did.

The guy is naturally ambidextrous, which IMO will be really useful to a NBA PG since he can both pass and drive to both sides. Also he has a 6'9 wingspan and an 8' 6'' standing reach (which is the same than Okogie and would be a terrific start to a switch all defense).

He is a terrific shooter with his feet set, has a high release point and quick and compact motion. Scouts question his mechachics to hit the 3 off screens because he is dependable on body balance. Something I think other of my guys Herro excels at since he can get his balance in mid air.

His passing game is blossoming. What I really think differentiate NBA PG from other positions is that they must be able to dissect the play, keep composure and be able to slow down the game in their heads. This guy had a 24 Ast% last season.
This is a compete list freshman or sophmores with above 24 Ast%, more than 150 3PA and above 3.0 Stl% over the last 5 years:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=2015&class_is_fr=Y&class_is_so=Y&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&games_type=A&c1stat=ast_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=fg3a&c2comp=gt&c2val=150&c3stat=stl_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=3&order_by=pts

He is by far the largest guard in that list and only DeAndre Bembry has similar size, while he was not even close as a 3pt shooter. But behind the rough stats the type of reads is what really matters. I look for skip passes, pocket passes, lobs in P&R situations and every situation where the defense overplays him. Here some highlights but watch the sweet pocket pass at 22 seconds.

https://youtu.be/6jUTD1sudHk?t=22

In all I think he will be one of those wierd rookies who arent a complete trainwreck as PG due to his lenght, shooting and team first mentality. As for star potential, how many guys thought Brogdon was going to be as good? Donovan Mitchell or Pascal Siakam? The first step to become a star player is get you in the rotation early. Not matter how much pontential you have if you are 2 years away of be 2 years away. This guy could make the rotation with really solid NBA skills and excel off KAT.

[Norseman79]

I have been shying away from Centers since we obviously have KAT. However if Jaxson Hayes somehow slides to us I would have to pull the trigger on him. Just turned 19 last week,runs the floor like a gazelle, 6'11.5" with 7'3.5" wingspan, shot 73% from the field and 74% from the line. Here is his NBA draft room scouting report.

An under-recruited center who had an outstanding Freshman season for the Longhorns. Unfortunately his season was cut short by a knee injury (thankfully just a bone bruise) in the conference tournament. It remains to be seen how much he will work out for NBA teams leading up to the draft.

Hayes experienced a late growth spurt in high school and went from being a virtual unknown (and a damn good football player) to being a potential NBA lottery pick.

Strengths
Has great size and athleticism. Moves his feet well, establishes position on defense and changes ends in a hurry.
Has very good hands and catches everything thrown his way.
Has good touch around the rim and is starting to put it all together on the offensive end (shot 72.8% from the field and 74% from the ft line as a Freshman).
An excellent shot blocker with natural defensive instincts. Does a good job of going vertical and contesting shots without drawing the foul. Gets off his feet quickly. Averaged 2.2 blocks in just 23 minutes per game.
Weaknesses
Still very raw and figuring things out on both ends of the floor.
Shows flashes of shooting ability but isn't yet consistent enough from mid range.
Comparisons
Has some Hassan Whiteside in his game.
Built like JaVale McGee but stronger and with a more advanced game.
Projection: lottery pick in the 2019 or 2020 NBA Draft

Completely agree, I just can't see him dropping that far barring a major red flag. I would want to see more and read more about his lateral quickness as to if he can switch on 4's and 5's.

[Killboard]

Free agency needs to start before the draft.

I fully agree, it would make facilitating trades for cap-space significantly easier, and would add a lot of depth to surrounding free-agents with players that compliment them.

That aside, I am not opposed to trading down to draft Tyler Herro. I think he would be an excellent option to develop for a couple years, he is going to be a quality player long-term.

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

[Killboard]

I have been shying away from Centers since we obviously have KAT. However if Jaxson Hayes somehow slides to us I would have to pull the trigger on him. Just turned 19 last week,runs the floor like a gazelle, 6'11.5" with 7'3.5" wingspan, shot 73% from the field and 74% from the line. Here is his NBA draft room scouting report.

An under-recruited center who had an outstanding Freshman season for the Longhorns. Unfortunately his season was cut short by a knee injury (thankfully just a bone bruise) in the conference tournament. It remains to be seen how much he will work out for NBA teams leading up to the draft.

Hayes experienced a late growth spurt in high school and went from being a virtual unknown (and a damn good football player) to being a potential NBA lottery pick.

Strengths
Has great size and athleticism. Moves his feet well, establishes position on defense and changes ends in a hurry.
Has very good hands and catches everything thrown his way.
Has good touch around the rim and is starting to put it all together on the offensive end (shot 72.8% from the field and 74% from the ft line as a Freshman).
An excellent shot blocker with natural defensive instincts. Does a good job of going vertical and contesting shots without drawing the foul. Gets off his feet quickly. Averaged 2.2 blocks in just 23 minutes per game.
Weaknesses
Still very raw and figuring things out on both ends of the floor.
Shows flashes of shooting ability but isn't yet consistent enough from mid range.
Comparisons
Has some Hassan Whiteside in his game.
Built like JaVale McGee but stronger and with a more advanced game.
Projection: lottery pick in the 2019 or 2020 NBA Draft

Completely agree, I just can't see him dropping that far barring a major red flag. I would want to see more and read more about his lateral quickness as to if he can switch on 4's and 5's.

McGee and Whiteside had like 7'6 wingspan or bigger. Hayes is more comparable to Jarret Allen or Ed Davis in size, which isnt completely bad since one of him or KAT will have to chase down perimeter PF around screens. Hayes could do that, or at least better than Goga Bitazde who looks much more better on offense but with slow feet. Im not against picking a C if you think they are a whole tier better than the other guys available, but I have concerns that is the scenario here.

[KGdaBom]

I have been shying away from Centers since we obviously have KAT. However if Jaxson Hayes somehow slides to us I would have to pull the trigger on him. Just turned 19 last week,runs the floor like a gazelle, 6'11.5" with 7'3.5" wingspan, shot 73% from the field and 74% from the line. Here is his NBA draft room scouting report.

An under-recruited center who had an outstanding Freshman season for the Longhorns. Unfortunately his season was cut short by a knee injury (thankfully just a bone bruise) in the conference tournament. It remains to be seen how much he will work out for NBA teams leading up to the draft.

Hayes experienced a late growth spurt in high school and went from being a virtual unknown (and a damn good football player) to being a potential NBA lottery pick.

Strengths
Has great size and athleticism. Moves his feet well, establishes position on defense and changes ends in a hurry.
Has very good hands and catches everything thrown his way.
Has good touch around the rim and is starting to put it all together on the offensive end (shot 72.8% from the field and 74% from the ft line as a Freshman).
An excellent shot blocker with natural defensive instincts. Does a good job of going vertical and contesting shots without drawing the foul. Gets off his feet quickly. Averaged 2.2 blocks in just 23 minutes per game.
Weaknesses
Still very raw and figuring things out on both ends of the floor.
Shows flashes of shooting ability but isn't yet consistent enough from mid range.
Comparisons
Has some Hassan Whiteside in his game.
Built like JaVale McGee but stronger and with a more advanced game.
Projection: lottery pick in the 2019 or 2020 NBA Draft

Completely agree, I just can't see him dropping that far barring a major red flag. I would want to see more and read more about his lateral quickness as to if he can switch on 4's and 5's.

His lateral quickness is supposed to be very good. All of his athleticism is supposed to be very good.

[Norseman79]

As day passes Im confident Nickeil Alexander Walker would be my pick. The guy traveled to the US to pursuit a NBA career. He lived with his uncle and cousin (SGA), who were the reason to keep working and improve like he did.

The guy is naturally ambidextrous, which IMO will be really useful to a NBA PG since he can both pass and drive to both sides. Also he has a 6'9 wingspan and an 8' 6'' standing reach (which is the same than Okogie and would be a terrific start to a switch all defense).

He is a terrific shooter with his feet set, has a high release point and quick and compact motion. Scouts question his mechachics to hit the 3 off screens because he is dependable on body balance. Something I think other of my guys Herro excels at since he can get his balance in mid air.

His passing game is blossoming. What I really think differentiate NBA PG from other positions is that they must be able to dissect the play, keep composure and be able to slow down the game in their heads. This guy had a 24 Ast% last season.
This is a compete list freshman or sophmores with above 24 Ast%, more than 150 3PA and above 3.0 Stl% over the last 5 years:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=2015&class_is_fr=Y&class_is_so=Y&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&games_type=A&c1stat=ast_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=24&c2stat=fg3a&c2comp=gt&c2val=150&c3stat=stl_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=3&order_by=pts

He is by far the largest guard in that list and only DeAndre Bembry has similar size, while he was not even close as a 3pt shooter. But behind the rough stats the type of reads is what really matters. I look for skip passes, pocket passes, lobs in P&R situations and every situation where the defense overplays him. Here some highlights but watch the sweet pocket pass at 22 seconds.

https://youtu.be/6jUTD1sudHk?t=22

In all I think he will be one of those wierd rookies who arent a complete trainwreck as PG due to his lenght, shooting and team first mentality. As for star potential, how many guys thought Brogdon was going to be as good? Donovan Mitchell or Pascal Siakam? The first step to become a star player is get you in the rotation early. Not matter how much pontential you have if you are 2 years away of be 2 years away. This guy could make the rotation with really solid NBA skills and excel off KAT.

If the draft plays out the way projected, he is who I would like at 11. Again, barring someone unexpected dropping.

[minimus]

As day passes Im confident Nickeil Alexander Walker would be my pick. This guy could make the rotation with really solid NBA skills and excel off KAT.

Not to mentioned that we have dont have any stability at PG. And from our PG only one player can have positive impact if we want to develop other players - Tyus. So at least for one year there will not be a full time starting PG, but once Teague's contract expires, we will have a void at PG. So NAW fits this timeline perfectly.

[Killboard]

As day passes Im confident Nickeil Alexander Walker would be my pick. This guy could make the rotation with really solid NBA skills and excel off KAT.

Not to mentioned that we have dont have any stability at PG. And from our PG only one player can have positive impact if we want to develop other players - Tyus. So at least for one year there will not be a full time starting PG, but once Teague's contract expires, we will have a void at PG. So NAW fits this timeline perfectly.

Yes, and due to size he could also play the 2 to compete for the 4th wing spot behind Roco, Oko and Wiggins. I think he has the pontential to be an above average passing PG, but he definetly would be a plus passer as a wing.

People has doubts because he isnt projected to be a off the dribble shooting threat or primary playmaker an while I would love to have one those guys arent easy to get, specially one who can really shoot and not be a complete negative on defense. If Coby White falls he could be. Not many after that pick. Herro is a terrific shooter. He isnt projected to be a PG but if he plays along a primary ball handler (like Redick or Murray along Simmons and Jokic) his defense would be OK, or even a plus.

I think both have NBA shooting skills that the Wolves need and could untap other parts of the roster.

[alabamawolf]

I fully agree, it would make facilitating trades for cap-space significantly easier, and would add a lot of depth to surrounding free-agents with players that compliment them.

That aside, I am not opposed to trading down to draft Tyler Herro. I think he would be an excellent option to develop for a couple years, he is going to be a quality player long-term.

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Herro struggled mightily at times this year. He also can’t play the 1 like Murray. At Herro’s size he will be a liability guarding the 2 despite the fact he plays with great effort

[shangrila]

I fully agree, it would make facilitating trades for cap-space significantly easier, and would add a lot of depth to surrounding free-agents with players that compliment them.

That aside, I am not opposed to trading down to draft Tyler Herro. I think he would be an excellent option to develop for a couple years, he is going to be a quality player long-term.

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Sure he is, but his wingspan is also 3 inches longer than Herro's. You think that makes a difference?

[Killboard]

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Herro struggled mightily at times this year. He also can’t play the 1 like Murray. At Herro’s size he will be a liability guarding the 2 despite the fact he plays with great effort

What do you think really differentiate them as PG? Because people said the same of Murray before being drafted. Herro had better AST%, better Dreb%, STL% and BLK%, as better DBPM overall, which seems to indicate he is a better athlete. Murray had higher usage and better FT Ratio, but also was the 7th instead of the 11th pick.

Regarding struggles, shooters always have low and highs peaks (or watch Klay Thompson this season), its called variance. Is average what you want to look, then performance in the clutch. Herro checked both since his averages were good then step up late in the season.