Lakers Front Office Staffer: Magic Johnson Used Intimidation, Bullying To Show Authority

[shrink]

i wonder if the big difference in responses correlates to a big difference in the age of the posters?

I’m older, so I wonder why the Lakers are hiring so many emotional children, that are scared of competition and need a hug from their bosses?

[capwolf]

The resumes anecdote is really intimidating to you?

Its a boss being a boss. The fear is on you.

The Magic we all know? Nothing ive observed since I’ve started following the NBA in 1984 would I classify as intimidating.

Most here seem to agree. Maybe its just you?

All I see is the most delusional fan base in the NBA coming to their boy's rescue.

Anyone that would say this is just a boss being a boss is someone that has never been one. You cannot lead successfully that way unless the work is so unskilled that you can just plug in new people ... and even then it’s grim.

Pretty sure Trump got to the White House with that management style. Obviously half the country loves it.

[CycklopsGT]

Crocodile tears.

This proves Magic was right.

They’re still stabbing.

Magic was never right. Look at his record. Kobe should kick Magic's rear-end outta tinsel town.

Obviously I agree... (except for wanting Kobe to get involved)

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[CycklopsGT]

All I see is the most delusional fan base in the NBA coming to their boy's rescue.

Anyone that would say this is just a boss being a boss is someone that has never been one. You cannot lead successfully that way unless the work is so unskilled that you can just plug in new people ... and even then it’s grim.

Pretty sure Trump got to the White House with that management style. Obviously half the country loves it.

Half the country isn't actually working for him. You can't run an organization like this because people will do enough to keep their job instead of what makes the company succeed. There's a BIG gap there. You don't know what they actually are capable of doing, only they do, and they won't show you or help you if they don't actually like you. The gray area where you can't punish but can't tell what's going wrong is where they will get you.

[shrink]

. You can't run an organization like this because people will do enough to keep their job instead of what makes the company succeed. There's a BIG gap there. You don't know what they actually are capable of doing, only they do, and they won't show you or help you if they don't actually like you. The gray area where you can't punish but can't tell what's going wrong is where they will get you.

Ridiculous. Magic was not running a Taco Bell.

In a competitive NBA front office, success and improvement is part of the requirement.

Success is rewarded. Mediocrity costs you your job.

“Liking the boss” is not as important as “wanting to personally succeed.”

[CycklopsGT]

. You can't run an organization like this because people will do enough to keep their job instead of what makes the company succeed. There's a BIG gap there. You don't know what they actually are capable of doing, only they do, and they won't show you or help you if they don't actually like you. The gray area where you can't punish but can't tell what's going wrong is where they will get you.

Ridiculous. Magic was not running a Taco Bell.

In a competitive NBA front office, success and improvement is part of the requirement.

Success is rewarded. Mediocrity costs you your job.

“Liking the boss” is not as important as “wanting to personally succeed.”

I said very specifically that if you anger and intimidate your employees, they will switch from wanting to do a good job to deliberately screwing you in all the little areas that you can't keep track of, which kills the organization (ANY organization). You replied with a bunch of cliches that didn't even relate to that.

[cheese318]

Meh, one disgruntled employee looking for attention. Every single boss/company has at least a couple of those.

As it is, I don’t think Magic was in the office often enough to bully his employees.

Or you can say every time he was in the office he took every opportunity to act like a donkey to all the employees beneath him which is another option as well. I think the truth is probably right in the middle. Usually when their is smoke their is fire so I wouldn’t say this 100% fallacy but I also understand the reasoning to kill the messenger after his tv interview last week

[Richfield]

Anyone that would say this is just a boss being a boss is someone that has never been one. You cannot lead successfully that way unless the work is so unskilled that you can just plug in new people ... and even then it’s grim.

Inexperience and ignorance is really shining here. The world is a little mire complex than your blanket statements will acknowledge.

Imagine somebody who has had bosses like that, but when they become the boss, have their own leadership style.

I’ll refer you to shrink’s posts in this thread if you need my pov clarified any further. He or she articulates it well. I dont have time to explain everything or correct your misconceptions any further.

[Johnny Bball]

Anyone that would say this is just a boss being a boss is someone that has never been one. You cannot lead successfully that way unless the work is so unskilled that you can just plug in new people ... and even then it’s grim.

Inexperience and ignorance is really shining here. The world is a little mire complex than your blanket statements will acknowledge.

Imagine somebody who has had bosses like that, but when they become the boss, have their own leadership style.

I’ll refer you to shrink’s posts in this thread if you need my pov clarified any further. He or she articulates it well. I dont have time to explain everything or correct your misconceptions any further.

This isn't about style. Acting in that manner is a complete failure of leadership at any level. You haven't explained anything, and I have no misconceptions about what it takes to lead a large group of people in the workplace successfully. No, the inexperience or ignorance is definitely not on my part here.

[DoItALL9]

Shame LA didn't give Magic the full autonomy he was told he'd be given. His tenure can never truly be fairly judged now imo

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[GQ Hot Dog]

Shame LA didn't give Magic the full autonomy he was told he'd be given. His tenure can never truly be fairly judged now imo

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Autonomy was given, Magic just engendered a corporate culture so toxic that it appears his coworkers took steps to undermine him and the reports pretty clearly back that up.

By Magic's own admission he was undermined. Why did that happen? Because he was surrounded by bad people or because he was such a toxic boss that those under him wanted him out and did what they could to facilitate that?

When one person in a group feels all the rest are out to get them, it's usually true and for a very good reason.

[DoItALL9]

Shame LA didn't give Magic the full autonomy he was told he'd be given. His tenure can never truly be fairly judged now imo

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Autonomy was given, Magic just engendered a corporate culture so toxic that it appears his coworkers took steps to undermine him and the reports pretty clearly back that up.

By Magic's own admission he was undermined. Why did that happen? Because he was surrounded by bad people or because he was such a toxic boss that those under him wanted him out and did what they could to facilitate that?

When one person in a group feels all the rest are out to get them, it's usually true and for a very good reason.

Being that he couldn't fire Luke Walton full autonomy wasn't given. Who knows what else he was prevented from doing.

There's not much to debate there.

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[Richfield]

Kind of funny to watch people coming around to justifying bad staffer behavior, or claiming its not bad behavior because Magic drove them to it by terrorizing and threatening them.

Apparently the hit job is working.

Basketball gods, please help this Lakers franchise. This is not good for anybody, most of all, the game itself.

[whoknows]

Most times a great athlete is not a great manager or leader for an organization.
MJ had his share of mismanagement until he learned to back off.

[BigHustle]

Who gains from this story? Complete chaos they are all at each other’s throats.

[tigerae]

I don't know how much I buy in to this report. Pelinka may be trying to save his job but he's known as a snake all around the NBA.

There were no complaints filed, no names, no interviews, just "reports" which doesn't mean much most of the time. Assistant coaches who were already on the hot seat for doing such a poor job with the team doesn't mean much imo.

If Magic is such a bad people's person there would have been way more complaints in the past from his own businesses.

Was Magic the right person for the job, absolutely not, but neither is Pelinka. They need experience to run a marquée franchise like the Lakers. Griffin would have been nice but he's in New Orleans now.

[Rek]

Who gains from this story? Complete chaos they are all at each other’s throats.

Ongoing media campaign intentionally timed to coincide with pre-draft and free agency. Much of what is being pushed out through ESPN lately was already well known within Lakers' circles. It's all being regurgitated with the specific intent of crushing their summer plans. Not exactly a difficult task seeing as how Magic and Pelinka provided tons of ammunition.

Big picture: certain people want to force the Buss family to sell or at least try to get Jeanie out of the picture.

[Tim Horton]

Lakers are a mess

[I_Love_This_Game!!]

Magic is my favorite player of all time. Regardless...he has been an absolute disaster for the Lakers since his playing days. Specifically, he...

...coached the Lakers for 16 games in 1994 and had a miserable 5-11 record. Here's an article that details how he could not relate to the players and threw Vlade's beeper across the room... (https://sports.yahoo.com/recalling-the-day-that-magic-johnson-decided-to-destroy-vlade-divac-s-pager-203855976.html?y20=1)

...built a ridiculous roster last year that had absolutely no outside shooting around Lebron.

...totally screwed up a potential Davis trade by allowing information to be leaked to the press.

...resigned abruptly without first having the decency to first tell his "sister" / boss.

...threw Pelinka under the bus right before the press conference announcing Vogel.

If these rumors of him trying to intimidate employees are true (and I think they are...see beeper article), his resignation is the best thing to happen to the Lakers in a while.

Good riddance, Magic! Now, please do everyone a favor and stop talking about your time with the Lakers!!!

[GordanFreeman]

All of these reports and rumours need to be taken with a handful of salt. Pelinka's and magic's camps are putting them out there to sling mud at each other.