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Post#21 » by Epicurus » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:37 pm

In the conference finals, if the Blazers had Julius Randle instead of Aminu, I am somewhat certain of their winning of that series. Thus, pray that Leonard has finally seen the light (yes, that has been said often in the past) and add Randle to compensate for Leonard's offensive rebounding deficiencies. When Nurkic recovers fully, smile at the plentitude.
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Post#22 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:01 pm

Adding Randle is pretty close to impossible. He is going to get 15-20M per in this market.
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Post#23 » by Epicurus » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:17 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Adding Randle is pretty close to impossible. He is going to get 15-20M per in this market.
Subtraction makes addition more likely. Having multi-billions makes math different anyway.
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Post#24 » by Fitz303 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:27 pm

Epicurus wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:Adding Randle is pretty close to impossible. He is going to get 15-20M per in this market.
Subtraction makes addition more likely. Having multi-billions makes math different anyway.


Not entirely sure what this means, but having multi-billions really makes the math no different at all when working under the rules of the CBA. Portland cannot pay Randle more than 5.7 Million next season. To "subtract" enough salary to offer him even 15 million per season, they'd have to cut $38.6 Million dollars for next season, while also having to renounce all FA cap holds. Good luck finding teams to take on all that salary. so as BlazersBroncos said, it's pretty close to impossible. Any real hope would be a S&T.
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Post#25 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:28 pm

As much as I'm ready to go for an "all in" move - I can't deny I'm starting to sweat what the Lakers are currently doing. Probably doesn't change my opinion in the end, but if the Lakers do something crazy like pull Kawhi or something insane like that.... it really will make me reconsider how much I'd offer for that "all in" move.
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Post#26 » by Case2012 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:54 pm



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Post#27 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:06 pm

Case2012 wrote:

Lets do it...


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Post#28 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:09 pm

I am not in favor of trading for Love. That guy's contract is putrid and long. Add to it what everyone else already said about him always being injured and on the wrong side of being an All Star and I would not even entertain the idea of trading for him.
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Post#29 » by HoopsFanAZ » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:34 pm

I understand not wanting to trade for Kevin Love given his injuries and size/length of contract. To suggest he's a bit better version of Meyers Leonard is not something I agree with. While he's not, and has never been, the most mobile of players or better than an average defender (my opinion), he's an elite PF at what Portland needs -- spacing, 3's, passing, and smart play. Meyers Leonard is not. His hesitating shots and D is the basketball equivalent of a stutterer ... and singing won't help Meyers. ML has good percentages, but he's a career back-up, not a 30-year-old starter on pretty good teams playing for rings.

How Love would or would not fit on the Blazers is a different discussion. I'd love ... or really like ... to see a trade where Leonard, Harkless and a pick (or highly protected picks) go out for an actual all star who is still just 30. He may be available and should age well given his present game.
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Post#30 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:49 am

I think Portland needs to take a big risk...swing for the fences...go all in...whatever the term is. Dame's shelf life is 4-5 years now as a top player and those don't land in franchise's very often

but I sure don't think Kevin Love is what you bet the farm on. Maybe Blake Griffin, but not Love

counting on organic growth and shuffling thru the bargain bin isn't going to put Portland over the hump. There's not nearly enough elite upside in those options. But those are likely better options than loading up on players of Love's caliber when they come attached to contracts and injury history like Love has
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Post#31 » by Blaze the Nugz » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:55 am

If you didn't like Evan Turner's contract, then you won't like Kevin Love's contract.
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Post#32 » by Andre 2999 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:59 am

Wizenheimer wrote:I think Portland needs to take a big risk...swing for the fences...go all in...whatever the term is. Dame's shelf life is 4-5 years now as a top player and those don't land in franchise's very often

but I sure don't think Kevin Love is what you bet the farm on. Maybe Blake Griffin, but not Love

counting on organic growth and shuffling thru the bargain bin isn't going to put Portland over the hump. There's not nearly enough elite upside in those options. But those are likely better options than loading up on players of Love's caliber when they come attached to contracts and injury history like Love has

I agree about going all-in on someone now. Maybe it’s better to wait until the season starts, when our expirings may be a little more attractive, and young players like Collins could potentially increase their trade value. But if we could get either Otto Porter Jr or Blake Griffin this summer, while keeping Dame/CJ/Nurkic (and, ideally, Ant/Little too), then I say go for it.

Harkless + Meyers + Collins + 2 1st round picks for Blake Griffin

Or

Harkless + Meyers + ‘20 1st for Otto Porter Jr (my preferred trade)

Dame/Ant
CJ/Bazemore/Ant
Otto/Bazemore/Little
Collins/Otto (or min FA)
Nurk/Kanter
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Post#33 » by Andre 2999 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:02 am

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Capn'O wrote:Gallo would probably be the most helpful piece but buyer beware when Jerry West is involved. In fact, maybe just call him to get a sense of which of the young pieces Portland shouldn't trade.

Blazers don't need another scorer. We are better off with defense and shooting. What we need is rebounding until Nurkic is back. Gallo doesn't help us with what we need. Blazers might have traded Turner for Gallo, but I think we already did better.

Ideally, we could have both shooting and defense with Otto Porter Jr. And hopefully we can convince Kanter to stay, to hold down the fort until Nurkic gets back.
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Post#34 » by BigLurch92 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:32 am

Stay the course for at least the first half of this season. Maybe Love could be added at the deadline if he is healthy. I don't think he has ever played a full season and he is now 30.
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Post#35 » by Showdown » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:30 am

Love is on decline, expensive contract, can't play defense, can't post up even against smaller players and was terrible in PO. I am starting to think that Clevelend or his agent invested a lot of money in this Love to the Blazers campaign because he isn't good enough to make us favorites against Utah,Hoston and teams from the East.

If Kawhi goes to LA , Lakers or Clippers then Blazers should do smaller improvements and then use this year to develope Simmons, Collins, Little and for Nurkic's recovery and wait either next offseason or to wait that some disgruntled All Star that's on Lillard's level or better become available via trade.
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Post#36 » by red_power » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:32 am

Seems like signing someone for a tax payer MLE is the very best move blazers could make before the start of the season. But even that isn't guaranteed because of tax complications though I'd like blazers to add an upgrade over Aminu with somebody like Mook Morris.

Trading for someone like Love and Griffin is pretty much out of question right now imo. Their deals kill all the value that guys possess.
Mid season trade deadline panic trade? That option has a significantly higher probability for sure.
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Post#37 » by Blazinaway » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:39 pm

If and I stress "IF" Anfernee "blows up" this yr do you then more strongly consider trading CJ perhaps at the deadline with 1 1/2 yrs left on his contract?
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Post#38 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:29 pm

i dont think anfernee will breakout next season, no way, maybe in two, three years
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Post#39 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:49 pm

I'm not ready to hand anything over to Simon's, even if he has a breakout year. CJ works well with Lillard. They have similar, yet different skill sets that compliment one another. I dont know what Simon's has at this point other than one good game, which was a throw away game against the Kings. I'd question if Simons has a breakout year whether that makes CJ expendable or whether that makes Simon's tradable. I was on the move CJ bandwagon prior to the playoffs, but changed my tune after the playoffs. I'd keep this backcourt together unless something better comes along.
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Post#40 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:53 pm

Is Porter available? Why would Chicago move him after trading for him just last season? He's still young so I dont know why the Bulls would move him.
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