RealGM 2020 Top 100 Project: #63 (Bob Cousy)

[Dutchball97]

Jokic career so far has been very similar to Giannis. He also has 5 elite years in terms of regular season. Jokic has 2 elite post-seasons. Both of which with higher WS and VORP than Giannis' best post-season. Walton has 2 elite regular seasons and 1 elite post-season in comparison. I understand it completely if you have Jokic out of your top 100 but I find him much more similar to Giannis career wise than Walton even without 2021.

So '16 was an "elite" rs for Jokic? When he was just a 21.7 mpg player (avg 10/7/2.4)?

If that's an "elite" rs, how does Walton only get credit for '77 and '78 as "elite" seasons? Shouldn't he probably get credit for each of '86 and maybe even '85 [by that standard] as "elite" seasons, as well as maybe one elite season credit for '75+'76 combined?

I forgot to check. It was 4 elite seasons and 1 good one, the same goes for Giannis though so the point still stands.

[trex_8063]

Thru post #21:

Bob Cousy - 3 (Cavsfansince84, euroleague, Hal14)
Alonzo Mourning - 2 (Baski, Odinn21)
Allen Iverson - 2 (Dutchball97, trex_8063)
Tracy McGrady - 1 (sansterre)
Alex English - 1 (penbeast0)


9 votes requires 5 for majority. McGrady and English are first to be eliminated, which transfers one to Mourning and ghosts the other....

Cousy - 3
Mourning - 3
Iverson - 2
(ghosted) - 1

So Iverson is axed next, which ghosts one more, while transferring one other to Cousy....

Cousy - 4
Mourning - 3
(ghosted) - 2

Making Cousy a non-majority default victor, which we'll have to validate against Mourning. Among the two ghosted votes, based on lists provided to me one favours Mourning, the other favours Cousy, giving Cousy the 5-4 edge in Condorcet. So his victory is upheld.

I'll get the next up....

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[euroleague]

1. Bill Walton
2. Giannis Antetekoumpo
3. Penny Hardaway


1. Bill Walton - This may be a lot higher than most have him, but his run at his best was so elite, both in the regular and post-season, i feel comfortable putting him this high. MVP, FMVP, would've won DPOOY, 6MOY with the Celtics on a GOAT level team. McHale had a bigger role on those teams, and will probably be my next selection, but Walton's brief period of being arguably the best player in the league, and winning Portland's only title, put him this high for me.

2. Giannis Antetekoumpo - I somehow missed him when I was making my last list, as I remember considering him as the next player up after Walton many, many threads ago. MVP and DPOY caliber player, who has redefined the way the NBA looks at athletic prospects. Even though his career is still in its infancy, he's played several years at an all-time high peak, and has breathed life into the franchise of the Bucks. He hasn't revolutionized the game, and is more of an LBJ 2.0 type player in the way Kobe was MJ 2.0, but I still think his defensive presence and offensive mismatches have caused havoc and something different to the NBA.

3. Penny Hardaway - this choice is quite difficult, as there are many options at this stage - Alonzo Mourning, Dominique Wilkins, and Pete Maravich were the ones I was debating. In the end, I think Penny's explosive play at the guard position at his peak was better than any of those players, and none of their extended primes was particularly impressive in longevity or dominance. Because of that, I have Penny in 3rd.