Andrei Kirilenko in today's NBA

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Post#21 » by UcanUwill » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:03 pm

EliteSmarts wrote:The fact he was Russian and became good player in the NBA is wild. Basketball is not popular at all at Russia so I wonder how he got into the sport and then how he even develop his talent as I'm sure Russia didn't have many Basketball facilities, camps, games back in the 90s etc lmao


Basketball in Russia is FAR more popular than in many countries that produced NBA players. Even Switzerland has had 2 good players, Sefolosha and Capela, thats far more crazy than freaking Russia having good NBA player rofl. How is Russia having great player surprising, you are slipping big time here. Basketball in late Soviet union was a huge sport, when Union split, yes, sports culture changed fram state to state, like In Russia Basketball production worsened because new Russia was better at Hockey and later Soccer, so in Russia particularly basketball slipped, where in countries like Lithuania and Latvia, Soccer slipped big time, when last Soviet born Soccer generation retired, Soccer in Baltic countries became a complete joke. But Soviets were big on Basketball and Kirilenko was from that generation. Russia was a very good team in late 00s and early 10s, they won Eurobasket and Olympic bronze, come on dude.
Basketball is a niche sport in Russia now, but they still have 3 teams in Euroleague for god sake, only 1 is popular to be fair, but they are not Switzerland, where I bet 95% of people probably have never played a sport ever.
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Post#22 » by BarbaGrizz » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:10 pm

I think in today´s NBA he would be Draymond with more lenght and range
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Post#23 » by UcanUwill » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:13 pm

tarantism wrote:AK-47 as a switchy small ball big who could move the ball on the short roll and at least keep the defense honest from deep is super intriguing. He'd definitely have a role in the modern NBA but probably as a bench guy or spot starter.

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AK47 would not be a bench guy in todays NBA :banghead: Utah was the first team that almost figured it out, they struck oil first but it was too soon for them to figure out what oil was. They played AK47 as a bigman before Boozer and AK was AMAZING. But it was the times when 2 bigs had to play in the paint and do it all forwards were seen as perimeter players, so they went backwards and put Kirilenko back at SF, position that was never optimal for AK, it was optimal for those times and AK was still good enough to be strong starter, but man as PF and even small ball C, he was, and would have been much better. Put him today, he is guaranteed allstar in hes not injured.
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Post#24 » by FinnTheHuman » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:22 pm

For me, the most enjoyable Wolves games post-KG were when AK was on the team. He was like an octopus on defense, and offensively he was so smart, he could pass, cut, finish around the rim, shoot a bit etc.

It felt like we couldn't fall behind by a lot vs anybody because AK was a constant 2-way presence, always pulling a defensive play out of his ass somehow, and always finding some easy bucket for himself or his teammate by just being super-smart. And that was all after all the injuries.

But we were weak because that's the season Love punched a wall and fractured his shooting hand and missed like 5 months in 2 stints, and shot horribly in-between those 2 injuries and because AK missed 18 games due to back spasms and had back pain while playing so yeah, we kinda sucked anyways, but it was our best season since KG left at the time, 1st 30+ win season since KG.

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Post#25 » by DelAbbot » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:49 pm

FinnTheHuman wrote:For me, the most enjoyable Wolves games post-KG were when AK was on the team. He was like an octopus on defense, and offensively he was so smart, he could pass, cut, finish around the rim, shoot a bit etc.

It felt like we couldn't fall behind by a lot vs anybody because AK was a constant 2-way presence, always pulling a defensive play out of his ass somehow, and always finding some easy bucket for himself or his teammate by just being super-smart. And that was all after all the injuries.

But we were weak because that's the season Love punched a wall and fractured his shooting hand and missed like 5 months in 2 stints, and shot horribly in-between those 2 injuries and because AK missed 18 games due to back spasms and had back pain while playing so yeah, we kinda sucked anyways, but it was our best season since KG left at the time, 1st 30+ win season since KG.

Damn what a player.


Imagine a lineup of KG defending C/PF, AK defending C/PF, Tony Allen defending PG
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Post#26 » by DelAbbot » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:50 pm

nate33 wrote:I think AK-47 was a bit overrated in his day, but he was still a pretty good player. He wasn't really that great of an on-ball defender, but he was a menace off ball. And he was a better passer than most guys his size.

The current rules definitely favor a guy with his skillset with the emphasis on team defense and ball movement on offense. He'd be even better today than he was in his era. The only issue is that he was a bad shooter who never figured out the 3-ball. He might hurt spacing on offense, unless he could play a lot of smallball 5.


In this video against Kobe, AK47 showed his prowess as an on-ball defender - quick feet, huge wingspan

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Post#27 » by nomansland » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:22 pm

Even as a Denver fan back in the day, I loved watching him play. Versatile players are always welcome in my book.
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Post#28 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:30 pm

Pefect forward to play next to Jokic

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Post#29 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:32 pm

I think he'd play the 5 and in effect be like a worse defending but better scoring Draymon Green on a team. (when people would argue he was the key piece on the Warriors team and raised everyone's level).
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Post#30 » by Hero_Panda » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:45 pm

Closest comp to AK-47?

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Post#31 » by kodo » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:15 pm

The original 5x5 guy.

Also the first NBA player I know of that had his World of Warcraft character tattooed to his body.
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Post#32 » by RookieStar » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:22 pm

kodo wrote:The original 5x5 guy.

Also the first NBA player I know of that had his World of Warcraft character tattooed to his body.


Wait.. that's what rings a bell for you?

Im sorry everyone but aside from defense, WOW and etc... whta brings me to mind is that he is the ONLY NBA player so far that was given a " hall pass " by his wife every time he has an away game. Or was that once a year " hall pass" LOL

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Post#33 » by Rauxcee » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:30 pm

He is the exact player this current Jazz team needs to go to the next level.

He's one of my all time favorite Jazz players. Was so fun to watch him.
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Post#34 » by chilluminati » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:37 am

kodo wrote:The original 5x5 guy.

Also the first NBA player I know of that had his World of Warcraft character tattooed to his body.


LOL yeah I remember that, a huge red dragon that took up his entire back.
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Post#35 » by mowcrowbar » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:57 am

One of my favourite players of all time. No doubt will flourish today.
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Post#36 » by jpengland » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:50 am

He'd be the most sought after Robin in the league.

He was a defensive beast, an absolute wrecking ball and his switchablity and ability to play the 5 would allow you to build crazy line ups around him. He was a great ball handler and passer and his shooting was OK (and would likely improve if he were encouraged to shoot he three ball more.

He's one of my favourite players of all time and his game would be much more valuable today. DPOY candidate year in and out.
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Post#37 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:01 am

RookieStar wrote:
kodo wrote:The original 5x5 guy.

Also the first NBA player I know of that had his World of Warcraft character tattooed to his body.


Wait.. that's what rings a bell for you?

Im sorry everyone but aside from defense, WOW and etc... whta brings me to mind is that he is the ONLY NBA player so far that was given a " hall pass " by his wife every time he has an away game. Or was that once a year " hall pass" LOL

IYKWIM.

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Post#38 » by DroseReturnChi » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:52 am

he was too advanced for his age. always like his archetype before it was even a thing.
top 10 player level impact superstar i would supermax him. he is literally giannis without scoring.
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Post#39 » by DroseReturnChi » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:53 am

EliteSmarts wrote:The fact he was Russian and became good player in the NBA is wild. Basketball is not popular at all at Russia so I wonder how he got into the sport and then how he even develop his talent as I'm sure Russia didn't have many Basketball facilities, camps, games back in the 90s etc lmao


ussr ever heard of it? this is literally worst post of the yr lmao.
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Post#40 » by RookieStar » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:37 am

God Squad wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
kodo wrote:The original 5x5 guy.

Also the first NBA player I know of that had his World of Warcraft character tattooed to his body.


Wait.. that's what rings a bell for you?

Im sorry everyone but aside from defense, WOW and etc... whta brings me to mind is that he is the ONLY NBA player so far that was given a " hall pass " by his wife every time he has an away game. Or was that once a year " hall pass" LOL

IYKWIM.

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Ypu havrn't heard or read about it? In an interview, his wife allows him to sleep with another women 1ce a year. Especially or supposedly on away games. Its supposed to be her gift as well as insurancr so ak47 wont cheat on her. lol

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