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Post#21 » by Lalouie » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:26 pm

this is a great time to be a sun

players there recoup their injury riddled careers
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Post#22 » by b33nine » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:31 pm

From a competitive standpoint, Denver is one of my least favorite teams, but man I'm hoping they can get healthy. I hate that injuries are part of sports and I'm gonna be rooting hard for Murray and MPJ (and now Dozier) to come back healthy. Jokic is so fun to watch when he's not playing against your team.
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Post#23 » by pipfan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:54 pm

This is why I want the Bulls to trade PWill and CWhte to get Barnes or Grant. We would have a puncher's chance, with no clear cut top team
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Post#24 » by The Rebel » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:59 pm

I hope the Nuggets are looking hard at their medical and training staff. While they have a history of signing injury prone players and pretending that injury prone doesn't exist, these guys are start to accumulate some major injuries and it makes you wonder who is in charge of these guys staying healthy.

I hope they take the load off of Jokic, I can see us making the playoffs juts off him alone, but I would prefer we save those miles on him.
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Post#25 » by Mickey8 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:08 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:They’re not going to be a very good team. MPJ is done for the year. Murray won’t even be back until the final month or so. Dozier might be done for the year. Joker can’t keep carrying. They’re on a losing streak without him.

They were playing better without Porter, if Jokic didn't get hurt they would still be third or fourth team in the Western Conference . I don't think they should tank, unless Jokic misses a month of action. If Murray comes back healthy in the second part of the season, they can still make some noise, its important for them to compete in the play off's.
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Post#26 » by Chuck Everett » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm

Season is over now. Might as well shut Jokic down until he is absolutely healthy. This should be a year to try out other guys and give them minutes to see what you have. It's just a wash sadly.
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Post#27 » by TheFire » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:53 pm

If I’m the Nuggets, I blow it up and trade Jokic, Murray and MPJ and see what I can get. This team is not a championship level team even when fully healthy. Jokic is the only one of the three that has a good contract and doesn’t have injury risk. If I’m someone like the Rockets, I’d offer KPJ and Green with some future first round picks.
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Post#28 » by VanWest82 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:58 pm

Jokic is a free agent in 2023. It's possible he could be in play as early as this trade deadline if he were to quietly ask out. Not saying I'd bet on that to happen but in theory it could.
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Post#29 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:05 pm

TheFire wrote:If I’m the Nuggets, I blow it up and trade Jokic, Murray and MPJ and see what I can get. This team is not a championship level team even when fully healthy. Jokic is the only one of the three that has a good contract and doesn’t have injury risk. If I’m someone like the Rockets, I’d offer KPJ and Green with some future first round picks.


Man what a horrible dumb take. Yeah let's blow up our core of guys 26 and younger because injuries occured. And you know for sure that, that group can't get it done ???

Non-sense...

Trade Jokic for KPJ and Green lol lol wtf is wrong with you guys??
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Post#30 » by mademan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:12 pm

TwoStarz wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if the shut down Jokic with the wrist injury... or some other injury down the road. Burning him out carrying this trash roster just doesn't make sense. They have now lost 3 rotation pieces to major injuries, two of them being starters.


I always see people say this but these guys have personal legacies too. Jokic is one of a handful of players in the running for best player in the league and is on pace to join the greatest C of all time in terms of production (who knows about winning). What kind of player who's only had 1 MVP level season decides to take off the following season while theyre still young (26) and putting up historic numbers even better than their MVP season?

More importantly, if Murray comes back, the West is no longer some crazy conference. They should like their chances against the Suns and Warriors
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Post#31 » by Alatan » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:55 pm

Nuggets arent throwing away the season just to get a slightly better draft pick. There is no way they are shutting down Jokic in his prime and having him stay with the team. Tanking is not what Jokic wants, its not what Malone wants and its probably not what the owners want.
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Post#32 » by Mickey8 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:07 pm

TheFire wrote:If I’m the Nuggets, I blow it up and trade Jokic, Murray and MPJ and see what I can get. This team is not a championship level team even when fully healthy. Jokic is the only one of the three that has a good contract and doesn’t have injury risk. If I’m someone like the Rockets, I’d offer KPJ and Green with some future first round picks.

Why would they trade top 10 player in the league, who just hit his prime :lol: Especially player who makes his teammates better players on the court, he's only 26 years old :lol: Personally I wouldn't mind see him being traded somewhere where he can win the championship, but there isn't any good reason for Denver to shop him around, that would be plain stupid on their part. Also we never seen them full healthy , even in the bubble Barton was out , I think when Denver is fully healthy, they are the contenders , but they can't stay healthy unfortunately.
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Post#33 » by BigGargamel » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:18 pm

There are so many terrible takes in this thread that I don’t know where to respond first.

But trading an mvp in his mid 20s because of a five game losing streak takes the cake.

Acting like Denver is 1-15. They are like 3 games out of first place with 60+ games left. Acting like Jokic suffers a torn ACL every season and needs to be shut down. He played every game last year and has a run of the mill wrist injury.

Like literally. If the season ended today denver is in the playoffs.

I wonder how some posters act in real life when faced with the least bit of adversity.
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Post#34 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:31 pm

BigGargamel wrote:I wonder how some posters act in real life when faced with the least bit of adversity.


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Post#35 » by Jack Dempsey » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:39 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
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Jokic can actually carry this team, through the regular season at least. He did last year. He did this year before he got hurt. They're a 50 win team with him on the court. He will be back, and his pride won't allow him to be shut down. Denver will still probably make the playoffs barring an extended absence for Joker. After the Warriors, Suns and perhaps Jazz, a Jokic led Nuggets team is as good as any other in the West. They were 9-4 without Murray and with Porter playing terrible basketball. Jokic was MVP for a reason. He's that good.

With Joker they're still an easy playoff team, but I don't see them rushing back Murray unless they just happen to go on an insane winning streak. More likely, they'll work towards 2022-2023 with him. But they aren't going to tank and be one of the five worst teams in the league LOL. They're only a few games out of first place and the MVP is coming back.

I can admit, I wrote off the season at first too. But after the dust settled, they're still Joker's team and he's the best player in the NBA. They're not as good as they are with Porter and Murray, but they're still a top 5 or 6 team in the West.

Thats all true, but I hope Jokic doesnt get injured carying them to POs...


He has a wrist injury, not a torn ACL. He's always been extremely durable.

I mean, the guy is a competitor and wants to play and win. What is he and the Nuggets front office going to do? Shut him down for no reason? Coming off an MVP and smack dab in the middle of his prime? The Nuggets already can't attract free agents. Pissing off your best player of all time for a few more ping pong balls would not be wise.

Everything you say is correct but the Nuggets with the roster they have after all the injuries need Jokic to play heavy minutes to win games. That is never a good thing to do. At some point his body will break down while trying to compete for the 6th spot.
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Post#36 » by G R E Y » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:40 pm

It's a long season. Just ride it out and try to keep head above water to get clicking at the right time. That's most important. Teams without their best players struggle.

Not much you can do about MPJ for now but at least knowing he'll be out gives the team a more focused way of operating - either make a trade to shore up the position or another guy steps up.

Murray is going to return this season as well, yes?

Jokic took the summer off to rest so he'll be fine.

Still have Gordon.

Just need to beef up the bench, so if there's anything constructive coming from these games it's that.
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Post#37 » by payton2kemp » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:01 pm

Jadoogar wrote:Zach Lowe mentioned on his podcast that the Nuggets are a testament to how short a championship window can really be. Nuggets looked incredible after the Gordon trade and were absolutely in consideration for WCFs atleast before Murray got hurt. Now Murray is going to miss a majority of the season, no one knows what's going on with MPJ, who knows if they ever reach that peak again.


This year is probably a write-off Murray should be ok for next year. MPJ injury could be a disaster though, sucks for them.
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Post#38 » by RRyder823 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:01 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
TheFire wrote:If I’m the Nuggets, I blow it up and trade Jokic, Murray and MPJ and see what I can get. This team is not a championship level team even when fully healthy. Jokic is the only one of the three that has a good contract and doesn’t have injury risk. If I’m someone like the Rockets, I’d offer KPJ and Green with some future first round picks.


Man what a horrible dumb take. Yeah let's blow up our core of guys 26 and younger because injuries occured. And you know for sure that, that group can't get it done ???

Non-sense...

Trade Jokic for KPJ and Green lol lol wtf is wrong with you guys??
Don't worry. We heard the same bs in Milwaukee about how they couldn't get it done.... Just weren't good enough....
Blow it up now and get value... blah blah blah. And that was DURING the playoffs last year.

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Post#39 » by payton2kemp » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:02 pm

-Luke- wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:Zach Lowe mentioned on his podcast that the Nuggets are a testament to how short a championship window can really be. Nuggets looked incredible after the Gordon trade and were absolutely in consideration for WCFs atleast before Murray got hurt. Now Murray is going to miss a majority of the season, no one knows what's going on with MPJ, who knows if they ever reach that peak again.

That's it. It's easy to say that a team is still so young and has a lot of time. That's what people said about OKC with young KD, Westbrook and Harden. And that team never won the title.

I agree with Lowe. The Nuggets were my favorite to win the title last year. Than Murray got hurt. That injury sucks so much.


OKC is more on management, screwed it up by being cheap towards Harden. If he stays they probably win at least one.
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