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70sFan wrote:

Stalwart wrote:Plus I think Kobe held back his scoring for the majority of his career.

This is something I definitely can't agree with. Kobe wasn't on Harden level of ball dominance and scoring load, but he's one of the highest volume scorers ever.

Drink the Kool-Aid 70sFan.
Wear the rose-y glasses 70sFan.

What a horrific and abdominal take.

Whats the argument for Kobe over James as a scorer? Stalwart, care to explain? Because let me tell you, I think LeBron held back his scoring for the majority of his career.

Only scoring volume:
1 - Iverson
2 - Kobe
3 - Jordan
4 - Baylor
5 - King
6 - Durant
7 - Gervin
8 - Harden
9 - Barry
10- T-Mac
.

HardenandWilt wrote:

Dutchball97 wrote:Among big men Kareem, Wilt and Shaq are locks. I'm also confident in MJ, LeBron, KD and Curry. The last 3 spots are incredibly tough to pick between West, Oscar, Dr J, Bird, Barkley, Kobe and Dirk. At the moment I'd go for West, Bird and Barkley but the margins are close. Harden and David Robinson would be in the top 10 if only looking at the regular season but fall short in the play-offs. Jokic and Embiid could make it but I'd like to see them keep it up for a bit longer first.

according to ben taylor, steph curry falls off more offensively in the playoffs than harden

yeah i'm not sure why the PC board seems to be under the impression that steph didn't fall off in the playoffs.

Curry's offensive rating between the 15/18(seasons) - 122,
Curry's offensive rating in the 15/18 Finals - 109,5.

Jordan
Wilt
Gervin
West
Durant
Curry
Iverson
Kobe
Kareem
Shaq

Colbinii wrote:

70sFan wrote:My list in tiers

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
LeBron James

Shaquille O'Neal
Kevin Durant
Jerry West

Stephen Curry
Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Wilt Chamberlain

HM: Adrian Dantley, Charles Barkley, George Gervin

Feel bad for having Iceman outside of top 10. Would you pick him ahead of anyone in my top 10?

Wilt

there seems not to be an instant message feature on here, or maybe i missed it, but thanks for crying to the mods to get my post removed you goddamn pus sy. or maybe you are a mod or something. anyway, if you're that pu ssy then you honestly deserve to be spit on. little sensitive low-test dweebs like you are causing masculinity to go the way of the dinosaur. go fuc k yourself.

Colbinii wrote:

70sFan wrote:

Stalwart wrote:Plus I think Kobe held back his scoring for the majority of his career.

This is something I definitely can't agree with. Kobe wasn't on Harden level of ball dominance and scoring load, but he's one of the highest volume scorers ever.

Drink the Kool-Aid 70sFan.
Wear the rose-y glasses 70sFan.

What a horrific and abdominal take.

Whats the argument for Kobe over James as a scorer? Stalwart, care to explain? Because let me tell you, I think LeBron held back his scoring for the majority of his career.

I've heard the "Kobe's scoring" is suppressed argument before but it's never made any sense for two reasons:

1. Kobe supposedly had his scoring suppressed as a result of playing with Shaq, but prime Kobe with Shaq (01-04) averaged 27.7FGA per hundred, and post Shaq Kobe (05-10) averaged 29.2FGA per hundred ._. not a huge difference. Hell, 2003 was his 2nd fga per 100 for his prime years.

2. Kobe can't play like 06 Kobe for his entire career and have it be conducive to winning. Kobe took his most shots when his teams were at their worst, super duper high volume Kobe isn't his "natural" state, he's not like MJ in that regard. 08-12 is probably his FGA average during his prime if you reply his career over and over again.

RamoneVargas wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

70sFan wrote:My list in tiers

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
LeBron James

Shaquille O'Neal
Kevin Durant
Jerry West

Stephen Curry
Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Wilt Chamberlain

HM: Adrian Dantley, Charles Barkley, George Gervin

Feel bad for having Iceman outside of top 10. Would you pick him ahead of anyone in my top 10?

Wilt

there seems not to be an instant message feature on here, or maybe i missed it, but thanks for crying to the mods to get my post removed you goddamn pus sy. or maybe you are a mod or something. anyway, if you're that pu ssy then you honestly deserve to be spit on. little sensitive low-test dweebs like you are causing masculinity to go the way of the dinosaur. go fuc k yourself.

Anyone that talks like this can't be over the age of 20 right?

RamoneVargas wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

70sFan wrote:My list in tiers

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
LeBron James

Shaquille O'Neal
Kevin Durant
Jerry West

Stephen Curry
Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Wilt Chamberlain

HM: Adrian Dantley, Charles Barkley, George Gervin

Feel bad for having Iceman outside of top 10. Would you pick him ahead of anyone in my top 10?

Wilt

there seems not to be an instant message feature on here, or maybe i missed it, but thanks for crying to the mods to get my post removed you goddamn pus sy. or maybe you are a mod or something. anyway, if you're that pu ssy then you honestly deserve to be spit on. little sensitive low-test dweebs like you are causing masculinity to go the way of the dinosaur. go fuc k yourself.

I didn't report you. You reported yourself.