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[Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline

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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#21 » by Indeed » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 am

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The February 10 trade deadline is three weeks away and, according to multiple league and team sources, the Raptors intend to operate as buyers


https://www.tsn.ca/trade-deadline-should-tell-us-how-much-raptors-are-prioritizing-short-term-success-1.1748547

Bringing home Poeltl or Turner?


The article doesn't contain that quote about Feb. 10th. It's just Lewenberg giving his riff on Nurse's comments. Intending to operate as buyer's gives a false impression. Masai/Bobby make deals if it makes sense to them and the price is right. I think the FO/Nurse feel we're ok with Birch/Precious and will not pay the asking price for Poetl/Turner. The supposed need for a C is an RGM brainfart. For sure, they will do everything to avoid going into the tax.


It depends. With Boucher on his last year of contract, we may acquire something from him.
Indiana is looking for a young player with upside and a 1st round pick. If Boucher gets us a young player with upside, and we add a 1st round pick (or young player with upside) with Dragic as salary filler, maybe that isn't too bad for us.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#22 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:32 am

I hope they mean buying draft picks

But seriously, who's on the table though? Boucher, Flynn, Yuta, Svi, Dragic? I can't imagine we get much back for them. Boucher will draw interest though

I'd like a backup point guard or a rotation quality wing player though, either would make us a lot better
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Post#23 » by Tor_Raps » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:35 am

Boogie! wrote:Everyone wants another big when we're a horrible shooting team. If anything we need bette4vperimeter play. Guys that can catch and shoot efficiently without wasting dribbles and fontvneed the ball in their hands.


We need both to be honest. Although a good shooting big would be perfect.

I still remember when Ibaka at PF was a train wreck and once we put him in the center spot, it unleashed a whole new level to his game. I have a baseless hope that the same can be done with Turner here. I just haven't watched Turner enough to be confident enough of this opinion.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#24 » by aroc23 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:39 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:I hope they mean buying draft picks

But seriously, who's on the table though? Boucher, Flynn, Yuta, Svi, Dragic? I can't imagine we get much back for them. Boucher will draw interest though

I'd like a backup point guard or a rotation quality wing player though, either would make us a lot better


I am with you on all fronts. Everyone thought at the beginning of the year that we needed a trade for a big, but it turns out we need a scorer/facilitator off the bench much more. A backup PG (or combo guard) that plays defense or a wing that can pass would have a much bigger impact.

Maybe they can get some value out of taking on longer contracts for expirings. There is no point trying to save cap room when you have GTJ/OG/FVV/Siakam taking up most of the cap and TO is not a FA destination during the pandemic.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#26 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:44 am

What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#27 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:07 am

Lewenberg is less credible than a random poster from here.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#28 » by blastttOFF » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:11 am

We’re signing Richaun Holmes this summer

Reality: we’re signing Sam dekker
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Post#29 » by Los_29 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:18 am

Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.


Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#30 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:19 am

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Los_29 wrote:I don’t think we get a big. I think they are after a guard.


That would be good too. As long as Birch comes back and stays healthy. A combo guard who can spell Fred at the point and also shoot would be ideal.

I just hope we don't get yet another development project, who we hope can learn to shoot later. We need a guy who can play right now.


The only guard I've really seen us even mildly linked to is LeVert (who's moreso connected to the Cavs). He costs even more than Gary sooooo wondering what's the fit...
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#31 » by Los_29 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:27 am

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Los_29 wrote:I don’t think we get a big. I think they are after a guard.


That would be good too. As long as Birch comes back and stays healthy. A combo guard who can spell Fred at the point and also shoot would be ideal.

I just hope we don't get yet another development project, who we hope can learn to shoot later. We need a guy who can play right now.


The only guard I've really seen us even mildly linked to is LeVert (who's moreso connected to the Cavs). He costs even more than Gary sooooo wondering what's the fit...


Hope not. That guy can't stay healthy. But all depends on the price. I'd take him for some of our bench guys. :lol:
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#32 » by VanWest82 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:27 am

We don't need a big name or big time trade, just a competent shooter who can come off the bench and help make sure our line ups don't suck.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#33 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:30 am

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Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.


Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.

Well they've got 2 legit All Stars in DeRozan and Lavine. A really solid starter in Lonzo, and bench pieces like Caruso, White and Dosunmu. They're just more talented, and deeper than we are.

I can't say that I would be too excited at the prospect of giving up a 1st rounder, not with where we're at as a team right now.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#34 » by mtcan » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:35 am

Birch, Flynn and second round pick for Poeltl.
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Post#35 » by KL78192020 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:42 am

Los_29 wrote:
Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.


Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.


Well you see theres this thing called wins, and Chicago has more of those than the Raptors. Might kinda complicated for you to understand.
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Post#36 » by Los_29 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:43 am

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Los_29 wrote:
Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.


Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.


Well you see theres this thing called wins, and Chicago has more of those than the Raptors. Might kinda complicated for you to understand.


That doesn't make any sense.
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#37 » by brownbobcat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:46 am

Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.

Unless they can steal a useful player with some 2nd rounders, I think it's still way too early in the asset accumulation phase. Between 2015-2017, Raptors were able to add Wright, Powell, Siakam, VanVleet and OG at a very low cost. Barnes is the only addition without subtraction so far in this rebuild, they need more time.
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Post#38 » by Zeno » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:48 am

mtcan wrote:Birch, Flynn and second round pick for Poeltl.

I don’t think gets it done and I don’t think that solves the main issues with the team. I definitely wouldn’t say no to that though.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#39 » by KL78192020 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:49 am

Los_29 wrote:
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Los_29 wrote:
Why is Chicago a better team than us?

And yeah, I think that's exactly what they are going to be looking at. Some pieces that are on reasonable deals and controllable for the next couple of years. I think Dragic's expiring and our FRP and/or SRP could get us a solid, young player.


Well you see theres this thing called wins, and Chicago has more of those than the Raptors. Might kinda complicated for you to understand.


That doesn't make any sense.


Yea a team with many more wins couldn't be better than the Raptors, how in the world could that happen. Your takes just get worse and worse. So wins mean nothing now?
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Re: [Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline 

Post#40 » by Reeko » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:51 am

brownbobcat wrote:
Reeko wrote:What do we have to buy with? And what are we going to make a run at?

The East is wide open for the likes of Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Miami and Chicago.

If we're keeping the core 5 intact, we're likely going to have to attach picks to whoever we trade. If that's the case it better be a player/s that we have control over for the next 2-3 seasons, so that they can grow with the core.

Unless they can steal a useful player with some 2nd rounders, I think it's still way too early in the asset accumulation phase. Between 2015-2017, Raptors were able to add Wright, Powell, Siakam, VanVleet and OG at a very low cost. Barnes is the only addition without subtraction so far in this rebuild, they need more time.

I agree 100%. I don't see the need to rush, and I would think that the FO was prepared to accumulate assets and build continuity over the next 3-5 seasons before making a serious playoff run towards a title.
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