No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant?

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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#21 » by Maf » Wed Feb 9, 2022 10:51 am

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Case2012 wrote:Why would a team trade for guys that expect star money and roles when they're just above average starters?

Would love Grant for the blazers but not for anything over 20 million a year and it sounds like he wants a big raise.
That's pretty much it. Grant is a very good role player and he had a positive impact on Denver when he was there, but he was let walk because he demanded too much money.

He's been doing well in Detroit on a bigger role, but if he is traded to a contender I see him going back to the role he had in Denver.

He's still valuable, but I imagine the asking price from Detroit is too high for what he really is, especially considering his relatively high salary.

On the other hand Wood is cheaper, but I'm not convinced he's able to help a contender.


I believe what you say is incorrect. Denver offered the same money as Detroit. But Grant didn't want to be third/fourth option on offense.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#22 » by AussieBuck » Wed Feb 9, 2022 10:51 am

lol what the hell is a contender going to do with Christian Wood?
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#23 » by DroseReturnChi » Wed Feb 9, 2022 11:26 am

they have huge egos and want to be number 1 options. grant is not even that talented.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#24 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:03 pm

Case2012 wrote:Why would a team trade for guys that expect star money and roles when they're just above average starters?

Would love Grant for the blazers but not for anything over 20 million a year and it sounds like he wants a big raise.


Cap in theory should jump soon. So....it's not a bad time to over pay.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#25 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:08 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Sometimes you look at a guys stats and be surprised on why he has bounced around so much in the league. You think to yourself, damn this guy puts up some numbers, why is no one keeping this guy around.

Then you watch a few of his games and it becomes very clear why they dont stick to a team. Christian Wood is pretty much the current poster child of this. 6 teams in 6 years. I usually hate the empty stat talking point, but if there was ever a guy that was that, its Wood. Its hard to explain, but every time I watch that guy play I always end up thinking to myself, "thank god Im not rooting for the team he is on."

Even teams like the Nuggets or Bucks who are looking for a legit backup big. I think those teams are better off with stop gaps like Cousins and Moose.

When it comes to Grant, he should be a much better defensive player than he is. Ideally he is your 3rd or 4th option that also brings good defense. But I think he wants a bigger role and a contract that is bigger than a player for that role. Aaron Gordon is who Grant should be but he's not.

I really dont think too many championship teams are looking for guys like these two. I think they're looking for legit star players, or good smart vets that know their roles and know how to play winning ball.


Interesting, I look at wood and think "ok, we're all in on offense and need a spacer"...for just under 15 mil and for a big...he's not THAT bad defensively lets go.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#26 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:09 pm

AussieBuck wrote:lol what the hell is a contender going to do with Christian Wood?


have him shoot 3's? And be tall?
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#27 » by RSP83 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:32 pm

They're obviously 'sell high' guys, and I suspect Houston and Detroit are trying to squeeze out as many returns as they can possibly get until the last hour. I'm not buying.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#28 » by Gasolina » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:36 pm

Wood has a bad attitude and isn’t a good enough player to make up for it.

Grant has probably been the subject of many calls to Detroit already.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#29 » by Moses ShamMoses » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:48 pm

I agree that playoff teams are mostly interested in actual stars or cheaper vet role players. Jerami Grant is sort of in the middle as a good player but expensive.

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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#30 » by hauntedcomputer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:51 pm

These aren't guys contenders trade for. These are guys bad GMs trade for to look like they are "doing something" to buy themselves an extra year or two of employment.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#31 » by KGtabake » Wed Feb 9, 2022 12:56 pm

Grant is a better player.
He can be very helpful to a contender.
He can be a great defender when motivated (it's not easy to be motivated constantly on a tanking team).
#3? No. But he can definitely start for the Suns(for Crowder), the Warriors (for Looney), the Bucks (for Portis). These are contenders.
He can be a small ball big for any of these teams.

Wood can't defend at all. He's not in the same level.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#32 » by Richard Miller » Wed Feb 9, 2022 1:44 pm

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lars_rosenberg wrote:
Case2012 wrote:Why would a team trade for guys that expect star money and roles when they're just above average starters?

Would love Grant for the blazers but not for anything over 20 million a year and it sounds like he wants a big raise.
That's pretty much it. Grant is a very good role player and he had a positive impact on Denver when he was there, but he was let walk because he demanded too much money.

He's been doing well in Detroit on a bigger role, but if he is traded to a contender I see him going back to the role he had in Denver.

He's still valuable, but I imagine the asking price from Detroit is too high for what he really is, especially considering his relatively high salary.

On the other hand Wood is cheaper, but I'm not convinced he's able to help a contender.

Thought Denver offered him the same deal but he turned it down and wanted to play for Casey and a bigger role.


Yup, he got the same money, but he wanted the bigger role so he could prove himself further, be a legit #1 or 1a/1b. Not sure if he has done that, since everybody still seem to view him as #3 or #4 which is exactly what he was back in Denver, and he didn't want that role.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#33 » by Statlanta » Wed Feb 9, 2022 1:50 pm

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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#34 » by poultryfan » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:21 pm

ZombieKilla wrote:The Rockets were never shopping Wood.
They had a few offers, but they had no intention of trading him unless the offer blew them away.
Several insiders have said this.

That's just posturing/damage control. Reality is that any player that's not a superstar or on a trajectory to become one has probably been shopped around extensively, and good teams including potential contenders have already made offers.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#35 » by anotherhomer » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:51 pm

Grant is good. I'm sure he's not stupid and understands that he can do well in the 3a/3b role
But the guy knows with a bigger role, he can get the 112M contract extension....

it's a business decision
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#36 » by Guy » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:11 pm

wfiles wrote:I'm surprised that no contender has traded for them yet. They can be a legit #3 on a championship contender.

Grant thinks he's a number #1 and wants to get paid like one. That's going to cause a lot of FO's to hang up the line.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#37 » by Joshyjess » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:13 pm

I think a lot of teams want to trade for Wood or Grant - it's just that they aren't willing to pay the price to do so. Both of those guys are great guys to have on your team, as long as you can get them for the right price.
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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#38 » by mattao313 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:25 pm

Guy wrote:
wfiles wrote:I'm surprised that no contender has traded for them yet. They can be a legit #3 on a championship contender.

Grant thinks he's a number #1 and wants to get paid like one. That's going to cause a lot of FO's to hang up the line.
I just think he wants to be a featured player not necessarily the 1 option but a bigger part of the offense. Also the rumors were he wants a 4yr 112 extension not exactly #1 option money. As a Pistons fan I do want him traded tho.

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Re: No one wants to trade for Christian Wood or Jerami Grant? 

Post#39 » by Snakebites » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:30 pm

Still 1.5 more days- lot of time left for major offers.

To me, despite Grant kind of being labeled as the "grand prize" of the trade market, there are bigger fish on the market, and they are mostly front court players (Sabonis) or at least front court sized players (Simmons). Those bigger dominos usually fall first.

I also think the other issue is that the Pistons asking price for Grant, by all reports, is pretty high. They'll need to come down on that (or hope some team gets silly) if he is to be moved.

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