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Post#21 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:44 pm

HeatIn5 wrote:Big pieces that are both somewhat available and make sense to pair with Beal/Jimmy/Bam


- Myles Turner - obviously been discussed in here.

Wonder how the parameters would work but something like Herro and Jovic for Turner and TJ McConnell


- Damian Lillard - well, duh. Would make us the favorites to win the league, but very cap restricted and extremely tax heavy for a long time. Seems very unrealistic and that it's a Lillard OR Beal type thing, not AND. But not impossible.

The deal would be a grandfather deal - Herro, Martin, Jovic, all remaining picks and a couple swaps. See my crazy 5 team deal from post 1.

- OG Anunoby- Not sure if Raptors are going to want Herro, so would probably need to find him another team. I also think they'll have more options than us and they won't want to help us.

But Herro for OG and Thad Young works.


- Karl-Anthony Towns - Can't see Jimmy wanting this, and can't see us paying this tax if we're not going to do it for Lillard.

Deal would be Herro/Duncan and presumably 3 picks for Towns and either Kyle Anderson or Taurean Prince


- Bojan Bogdanovic - I could definitely see the Pistons liking the idea of an Ivey/Herro/Cade/#5 pick/Duren lineup. Much more balanced than drafting another guard who cant shoot (Thompson twins). Vincent/Beal/Jimmy/Bojan/Bam would be a stellar lineup, and probably could get another asset back

Something like Bojan, Isaiah Stewart, and a future 2nd for Herro


- Franz Wagner - Just looking through rosters and trying to find off the wall ideas. If Magic want a wing with the #6 pick, I could see them wanting to move Franz. Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to trade 6, 11, and a player haul for Lillard (Makes sense for OG too). Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to move up for Scoot. Franz would be a perfect fit for us though.

Something like Franz, Gary Harris, and 11 for Herro and 18?


- Gordon Hayward - Here's an off the wall one. Currently on a 1 year, 31M deal. Could be a huge expiring at the deadline or if he plays well enough you can bring back on a PJ Tucker type deal next year. Can shoot the 3 and play the 3/4 in a tandem w Caleb. If the Hornets are going to take Brandon Miller, could they take Herro from us (and Duncan's contract??) and have a Ball/Herro/Miller 1-3.

The Deal - Herro and Duncan for Hayward, Cody Martin, and either pick 27 or 34.


I will repeat, I really, really want Patrick Williams on this team with Jimmy/Bam.

Imagine the defense. I'd trade Caleb for him to be our starting PF.

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Post#22 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:44 pm

unowen85 wrote:Had a very important job interview today set for 5pm. Just called them to cancel it.


My man right here is gonna be canceling job interviews for the next 3 months.
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Post#23 » by CrossOver » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:45 pm

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Post#24 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:47 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
HeatIn5 wrote:Big pieces that are both somewhat available and make sense to pair with Beal/Jimmy/Bam


- Myles Turner - obviously been discussed in here.

Wonder how the parameters would work but something like Herro and Jovic for Turner and TJ McConnell


- Damian Lillard - well, duh. Would make us the favorites to win the league, but very cap restricted and extremely tax heavy for a long time. Seems very unrealistic and that it's a Lillard OR Beal type thing, not AND. But not impossible.

The deal would be a grandfather deal - Herro, Martin, Jovic, all remaining picks and a couple swaps. See my crazy 5 team deal from post 1.

- OG Anunoby- Not sure if Raptors are going to want Herro, so would probably need to find him another team. I also think they'll have more options than us and they won't want to help us.

But Herro for OG and Thad Young works.


- Karl-Anthony Towns - Can't see Jimmy wanting this, and can't see us paying this tax if we're not going to do it for Lillard.

Deal would be Herro/Duncan and presumably 3 picks for Towns and either Kyle Anderson or Taurean Prince


- Bojan Bogdanovic - I could definitely see the Pistons liking the idea of an Ivey/Herro/Cade/#5 pick/Duren lineup. Much more balanced than drafting another guard who cant shoot (Thompson twins). Vincent/Beal/Jimmy/Bojan/Bam would be a stellar lineup, and probably could get another asset back

Something like Bojan, Isaiah Stewart, and a future 2nd for Herro


- Franz Wagner - Just looking through rosters and trying to find off the wall ideas. If Magic want a wing with the #6 pick, I could see them wanting to move Franz. Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to trade 6, 11, and a player haul for Lillard (Makes sense for OG too). Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to move up for Scoot. Franz would be a perfect fit for us though.

Something like Franz, Gary Harris, and 11 for Herro and 18?


- Gordon Hayward - Here's an off the wall one. Currently on a 1 year, 31M deal. Could be a huge expiring at the deadline or if he plays well enough you can bring back on a PJ Tucker type deal next year. Can shoot the 3 and play the 3/4 in a tandem w Caleb. If the Hornets are going to take Brandon Miller, could they take Herro from us (and Duncan's contract??) and have a Ball/Herro/Miller 1-3.

The Deal - Herro and Duncan for Hayward, Cody Martin, and either pick 27 or 34.


I will repeat, I really, really want Patrick Williams on this team with Jimmy/Bam.

Imagine the defense. I'd trade Caleb for him to be our starting PF.




Just don't see it happening outside of 2k. Bulls aren't giving up one of their few cost controlled assets.
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Post#25 » by carnageta » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:50 pm

Do we explore an OG Anunoby trade in the event we land Beal without giving up Herro?

A lineup of Beal, Butler, OG, and Bam does look nice on paper.. but I fear the offensive spacing would suffer big time. I think a lineup of Beal, Butler, Herro, and Bam with Caleb Martin may actually be better.. but probably not as good defensively.
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Post#26 » by Daffy » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:50 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Its 5 PM somewhere....what gives?! Lets do this deal for Beal, especially if its a steal.



What happens at 5pm?
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Post#27 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:51 pm

I really believe we'll get Beal.

I just wonder who's the big we can get in the secondary move.

M.turner makes a ton of sense, and he's making less then Herro - which is a must

Is there a PF that fits next to Bam, that makes around 11-15 Mil, and could be had for Duncan + a pick?
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Post#28 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:52 pm

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HeatIn5 wrote:Big pieces that are both somewhat available and make sense to pair with Beal/Jimmy/Bam


- Myles Turner - obviously been discussed in here.

Wonder how the parameters would work but something like Herro and Jovic for Turner and TJ McConnell


- Damian Lillard - well, duh. Would make us the favorites to win the league, but very cap restricted and extremely tax heavy for a long time. Seems very unrealistic and that it's a Lillard OR Beal type thing, not AND. But not impossible.

The deal would be a grandfather deal - Herro, Martin, Jovic, all remaining picks and a couple swaps. See my crazy 5 team deal from post 1.

- OG Anunoby- Not sure if Raptors are going to want Herro, so would probably need to find him another team. I also think they'll have more options than us and they won't want to help us.

But Herro for OG and Thad Young works.


- Karl-Anthony Towns - Can't see Jimmy wanting this, and can't see us paying this tax if we're not going to do it for Lillard.

Deal would be Herro/Duncan and presumably 3 picks for Towns and either Kyle Anderson or Taurean Prince


- Bojan Bogdanovic - I could definitely see the Pistons liking the idea of an Ivey/Herro/Cade/#5 pick/Duren lineup. Much more balanced than drafting another guard who cant shoot (Thompson twins). Vincent/Beal/Jimmy/Bojan/Bam would be a stellar lineup, and probably could get another asset back

Something like Bojan, Isaiah Stewart, and a future 2nd for Herro


- Franz Wagner - Just looking through rosters and trying to find off the wall ideas. If Magic want a wing with the #6 pick, I could see them wanting to move Franz. Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to trade 6, 11, and a player haul for Lillard (Makes sense for OG too). Also wouldn't be shocked if they tried to move up for Scoot. Franz would be a perfect fit for us though.

Something like Franz, Gary Harris, and 11 for Herro and 18?


- Gordon Hayward - Here's an off the wall one. Currently on a 1 year, 31M deal. Could be a huge expiring at the deadline or if he plays well enough you can bring back on a PJ Tucker type deal next year. Can shoot the 3 and play the 3/4 in a tandem w Caleb. If the Hornets are going to take Brandon Miller, could they take Herro from us (and Duncan's contract??) and have a Ball/Herro/Miller 1-3.

The Deal - Herro and Duncan for Hayward, Cody Martin, and either pick 27 or 34.


I will repeat, I really, really want Patrick Williams on this team with Jimmy/Bam.

Imagine the defense. I'd trade Caleb for him to be our starting PF.

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Just don't see it happening outside of 2k. Bulls aren't giving up one of their few cost controlled assets.


They need a PG. Their big 3 is Lavine, Demar, and Vuc. I think they would do it if they thought it would help their core big 3, especially since Williams hasn't really panned out. I think we could maximize him here
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Post#29 » by CrossOver » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:53 pm

carnageta wrote:Do we explore an OG Anunoby trade in the event we land Beal without giving up Herro?

A lineup of Beal, Butler, OG, and Bam does look nice on paper.. but I fear the offensive spacing would suffer big time. I think a lineup of Beal, Butler, Herro, and Bam with Caleb Martin may actually be better.. but probably not as good defensively.


OG is a 38% 3pt shooter on decent volume and can handle the ball well. Spacing would not be an issue there.
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Post#30 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:55 pm

I’m assuming, like I’m sure most of you are, that is Herro is kept out then he will be used later to solidify the lineup, which would be the correct move. However, is there any scenario here that they are thinking of a Herro move to point guard or using Beal as pg?
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Post#31 » by Rapaz » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:55 pm

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DayofMourning wrote:Its 5 PM somewhere....what gives?! Lets do this deal for Beal, especially if its a steal.


What happens at 5pm?

ICC’s nugget merchant is going to have a team reveal party. He’s going to burst a piñata with candy in Suns or Heat colors, revealing Beal’s destination. He bought candy in an ambiguous shade of orange, so he’ll be right either way.
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Post#32 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:56 pm

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carnageta wrote:Do we explore an OG Anunoby trade in the event we land Beal without giving up Herro?

A lineup of Beal, Butler, OG, and Bam does look nice on paper.. but I fear the offensive spacing would suffer big time. I think a lineup of Beal, Butler, Herro, and Bam with Caleb Martin may actually be better.. but probably not as good defensively.


OG is a 38% 3pt shooter on decent volume and can handle the ball well. Spacing would not be an issue there.


He's just the perfect answer.

In age, in skill, in salary, in value.

Just need Raptors to value Herro.
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Post#33 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:56 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I really believe we'll get Beal.

I just wonder who's the big we can get in the secondary move.

M.turner makes a ton of sense, and he's making less then Herro - which is a must

Is there a PF that fits next to Bam, that makes around 11-15 Mil, and could be had for Duncan + a pick?


Maybe Kyle anderson from the wolves?

they would want more shooting to surround their frontcourt
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Post#34 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:56 pm

Lowry, Oladipo, Highsmith, pick 18, 2028 pick swap for Beal

Sign and Trade Strus to OKC for our 2025 pick back

Herro for Bojan Bogdanovic, Isaiah Stewart, pick 31

Duncan/Jovic to San Antonio for Zach Collins and a future pick

Free Agency - Westbrook (most of MLE), McGruder (don't laugh, shot 46%, 40%, 42% from 4 last 3 years)

Westbrook / Vincent/ Bouyea
Beal/ McGruder
Jimmy / Cain
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Bam / Collins / Robinson
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Post#35 » by Rapaz » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:57 pm

Adding Beal and Anunoby in one offseason?

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Post#36 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:58 pm

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Post#37 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:58 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:I’m assuming, like I’m sure most of you are, that is Herro is kept out then he will be used later to solidify the lineup, which would be the correct move. However, is there any scenario here that they are thinking of a Herro move to point guard or using Beal as pg?


1. Itr will be super expensive, probably too expensive. Herro makes too much to keep, We need to move him for a big tat makes less.

2. It can work on offense, but on defense, a Beal and Herro combo could really kill us

3. If we keep Herro We won't be able to bring a legit starting PF. Love is too old, Jovic is too young
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Post#38 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:59 pm

CrossOver wrote:
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For those that need an understanding of why a Dame/Beal/Jimmy/Bam line up is a pipedream

This is what i’ve been saying constantly in here but the local reporters have been going with the crazy theories as well. Somebody is getting the runaround here.
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Post#39 » by miamiballer » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:00 pm

It’s 5, Miami time, where’s beal yet?

Icc your time is coming up lol
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Post#40 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:01 pm

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