#5 - Pistons-Pacers

zeebneeb · Post #21 » by **zeebneeb** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:08 pm

Snakebites wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Yeah, Weaver just confirmed my belief, they expect a strong step forward this year.

If the team is in the lottery again(top)something went horribly wrong.

We expected one last year too. And probably the year before too.

They’re not going to say otherwise before the season starts.

And I’m sure they have meant it all those years too. I don’t think they go in expecting to tank.

This is different. It didn't come with the usual caveats from previous years, and he even mentioned the Kings.

These are real expectations, not hopeful, with a side of tank.

Weaver is a man of few, horribly delivered words, so I believe him.

Spider156 · Post #22 » by **Spider156** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:18 pm

40 pts sasser?

Anyone doubting weaver anymore? Best drafter in Pistons history it seems.

JLiv · Post #23 » by **JLiv** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:18 pm

Can’t believe I missed a Sasser 40 piece lol

ElectricMayhem · Post #24 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:35 pm

Watch on YouTube

I'm pretty sure I counted 9 in the first half, so 31 2nd half points.

40/5/3

vege · Post #25 » by **vege** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:41 pm

Trade Cade and Ivey and start Sasser. Championship.

Uncle Mxy · Post #26 » by **Uncle Mxy** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Spider156 wrote:40 pts sasser?

Anyone doubting weaver anymore? Best drafter in Pistons history it seems.

Summer league superstardom is fleeting.

Sort · Post #27 » by **Sort** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:02 am

Look, it doesn't mean anything much to score 40 points in a summer league game, especially at the end when lots of players are resting. But that's still a solid accomplishment. For context, here are the top scorers. Sasser did just score the third most points ever.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/nba-summer-league-who-holds-the-record-for-the-highest-single-game-scoring-performance/1abxc6cwdmy491upkat359mn1v

MortSahlfan · Post #28 » by **MortSahlfan** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:06 am

Sasser didn't have the best SL, and I think 99% of the guys are either in the NBA, or have played in the NBA. 40 points, and his quickness. Reminded me of a quicker Saben Lee. His move seems to be a quick dribble forward, step-back, and shot, and had a nice play with just under 2 minutes left. It's nice to shoot well from 3, and be someone to attack in the paint. I, like the NBA TV announcers, was distracted with what Troy was saying and will definitely re-watch the 3rd quarter. That 4th quarter was exciting and finally got my attention!

Piston Pete · Post #29 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:39 am

Saban Lee might be a good comparison for Sasser from what I saw in Summer League.

Not in terms of how they play or what they bring to the table….but in terms of level of player.

I think Sasser = Lee in terms of decent 3rd PG off the bench. Can be primary backup from time to time, but never gets to the point where he earns starting consideration.I don’t see either becoming legit PG2 worthy level.

440BB · Post #30 » by **440BB** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:45 am

I don't think the Pistons have any plan for Sasser to handle PG duties. Dogged D and shooting would seem to be the idea for this role player.

MortSahlfan · Post #31 » by **MortSahlfan** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:50 am

Piston Pete wrote:Saban Lee might be a good comparison for Sasser from what I saw in Summer League.

Not in terms of how they play or what they bring to the table….but in terms of level of player.

I think Sasser = Lee in terms of decent 3rd PG off the bench. Can be primary backup from time to time, but never gets to the point where he earns starting consideration.I don’t see either becoming legit PG2 worthy level.

Kinda looked like him how he moved, his body, height, weight, especially how he attacked the paint, not as fast of course.

Spider156 · Post #32 » by **Spider156** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:09 am

Sasser can guard the point guard that’s what he does. He’s not a point guard.

Positions these days are about what you can guard not about what you can do.

Sasser is a score first guard, he won’t run an offense unless he has to and that means injuries. Otherwise I don’t see why Ausar doesn’t run the offense off the bench. If Ausar starts, there’s always gonna be a Cade Ivey Ausar or Monte Morris that can run the point guard even when Sasser is playing.

Piston Pete · Post #33 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:15 am

Spider156 wrote:Sasser can guard the point guard that’s what he does. He’s not a point guard.

Positions these days are about what you can guard not about what you can do.

Sasser is a score first guard, he won’t run an offense unless he has to and that means injuries. Otherwise I don’t see why Ausar doesn’t run the offense off the bench. If Ausar starts, there’s always gonna be a Cade Ivey Ausar or Monte Morris that can run the point guard even when Sasser is playing.

So by your own words - that would make Sasser a PG

Post #34 » by **Snakebites** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:25 am

Do we need Sasser to be able to play point guard offensively?

Piston Pete · Post #35 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:27 am

Snakebites wrote:Do we need Sasser to be able to play point guard offensively?

If everyone is healthy, no. Not at all.

So it only becomes an issue if in injury bug hits the roster and he’s forced to actually initiate the offense.

Chances of that happening - slim

Pharaoh · Post #36 » by **Pharaoh** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:31 am

Cade, Ivey, Morris all will initiate the offense before we put the ball in Sasser's hands and get him to do it

We'd probably let Hayes do it before him too.

I don't see Ausar as a primary initiator. Not yet anyway

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SuperBad · Post #37 » by **SuperBad** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:40 am

He reminds me of a bigger Tony Delk, he could score, handle the ball a bit, and was a hard working defender.

MotownMadness · Post #38 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:19 am

Really not happy with that Sasser pick. Feels like you could grab a guy like that in FA every year.

We should of took one of Leonard Miller or GG.

Pharaoh · Post #39 » by **Pharaoh** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:45 am

MotownMadness wrote:Really not happy with that Sasser pick. Feels like you could grab a guy like that in FA every year.

We should of took one of Leonard Miller or GG.

He hasn't looked good in SL but then again it is SL.

I imagine at the time of the Draft we didn't know we'd be trading for Morris & Harris so picking Sasser was done to get us a shooter off the bench.

Free agency changed and he's now 3rd string for this coming season and will be fighting Hayes for minutes.

Miller looks good. Had no idea who he was leading up to the Draft. Kinda weird he went so low considering he's the type of player teams are usually looking for.

Anyone know why Miller went so low? Character issues? Poor performance in interviews? Poor motor?

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MotownMadness · Post #40 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:52 am

Pharaoh wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Really not happy with that Sasser pick. Feels like you could grab a guy like that in FA every year.

We should of took one of Leonard Miller or GG.
He hasn't looked good in SL but then again it is SL.

I imagine at the time of the Draft we didn't know we'd be trading for Morris & Harris so picking Sasser was done to get us a shooter off the bench.

Free agency changed and he's now 3rd string for this coming season and will be fighting Hayes for minutes.

Miller looks good. Had no idea who he was leading up to the Draft. Kinda weird he went so low considering he's the type of player teams are usually looking for.

Anyone know why Miller went so low? Character issues? Poor performance in interviews? Poor motor?

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Probably cause he was playing at the G League. I started hearing about him a month or so before the draft and kinda figured he would go late teens.

Im guessing Weaver didn't want a project at 25 and went with a college vet instead.