Robert Saleh Fired

[Micah Prescott]

Jerry is actually the best "owner" in the NFL. It's Jerry the "GM" that is an issue.

That said, it's difficult to tell who is doing more of the GMing these days between Jerry and Stephen.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Even I dont think Jerry is the worst owner, bad one yes but there are too many incompetent owners in the league.

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

[Cactus Jack]

Even I dont think Jerry is the worst owner, bad one yes but there are too many incompetent owners in the league.

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity now (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Even I dont think Jerry is the worst owner, bad one yes but there are too many incompetent owners in the league.

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

How can you be the most expensive sports franchise in all of sports and not even sniff a Super Bowl or championship game in 29 years. Patriots and Chiefs do have the current model. Top owner that doesn't meddle, top Gm, Top coach, top QB, top notch front offices and the culture to go along with it. It shouldn't take Jerry that long to figure that out unless making money is the real and only objective.

[Micah Prescott]

Even I dont think Jerry is the worst owner, bad one yes but there are too many incompetent owners in the league.

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity now (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

Also athletes now are just on another level. Much bigger, much faster on average. Everything has evolved so much since the 80s and 90s. The schemes are way different.

Most teams today would absolutely wreck the 90s Cowboys. The average weight of a WR in 1990 was 180lbs. Today WRs are 200lb monsters. Irvin was one of those back then but today's CBs are way more conditioned to deal with players like him.

That is just the way it is. And any team in the 90s would wreck a team from the 60s. Players were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines back then. Many worked 2 jobs.

We all like to think our childhood sports idols were the best. But the reality is that the best are playing right now.

[Cactus Jack]

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

How can you be the most expensive sports franchise in all of sports and not even sniff a Super Bowl or championship game in 29 years. Patriots and Chiefs do have the current model. Top owner that doesn't meddle, top Gm, Top coach, top QB, top notch front offices and the culture to go along with it. It shouldn't take Jerry that long to figure that out unless making money is the real and only objective.

It's called a salary cap for a reason. This isn't European Soccer where you can just buy up all the best players.

Yes, coaching matters. Along with having a good QB obviously. Dallas has been competitive. But they've fallen short on both accounts.

Jimmy Johnson was a great hire back in the day. But Jerry has done a poor job when it comes to hiring & employing head coaches for the most part.

It also doesn't help when both Romo & Dak have underwhelmed on the big stage.

[bluejerseyjinx]

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

How can you be the most expensive sports franchise in all of sports and not even sniff a Super Bowl or championship game in 29 years. Patriots and Chiefs do have the current model. Top owner that doesn't meddle, top Gm, Top coach, top QB, top notch front offices and the culture to go along with it. It shouldn't take Jerry that long to figure that out unless making money is the real and only objective.

It's called a salary cap for a reason. This isn't European Soccer where you can just buy up all the best players.

Yes, coaching matters. Along with having a good QB obviously. Dallas has been competitive. But they've fallen short on both accounts.

Jimmy Johnson was a great hire back in the day. But Jerry has done a poor job when it comes to hiring & employing head coaches for the most part.

It also doesn't help when both Romo & Dak have underwhelmed on the big stage.

Gee, tell me something I already don't know.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity now (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

Also athletes now are just on another level. Much bigger, much faster on average. Everything has evolved so much since the 80s and 90s. The schemes are way different.

Most teams today would absolutely wreck the 90s Cowboys. The average weight of a WR in 1990 was 180lbs. Today WRs are 200lb monsters. Irvin was one of those back then but today's CBs are way more conditioned to deal with players like him.

That is just the way it is. And any team in the 90s would wreck a team from the 60s. Players were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines back then. Many worked 2 jobs.

We all like to think our childhood sports idols were the best. But the reality is that the best are playing right now.

What you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about here.

[Cactus Jack]

It shouldn't take Jerry that long to figure that out unless making money is the real and only objective.

You & I both know that Jerry won't let go of control. He's got too big of an ego.

[bluejerseyjinx]

It shouldn't take Jerry that long to figure that out unless making money is the real and only objective.

You & I both know that Jerry won't let go of control. He's got too big of an ego.

That's one of the major problems here if not the most major. And lying to Cowboy nation to boot. What has Jerry done since he ran Jimmy out of town in getting a real top coach that has a brain? And you also know if any other person was the GM of the Cowboys it wouldn't take Jerry 29 years to fire him.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Even I dont think Jerry is the worst owner, bad one yes but there are too many incompetent owners in the league.

More than half of other teams fanbase in the league would love for Jerry to be their owner instead cause he makes them relevant front and center with his flamboyant posturing that are generally positive in nature, knows how to draft and always in the thick of playoff races, choking aside. Some fans seem to be spoiled rotten by it when compared to almost a decade of losing before he took over.

Even the WFT would have been much better off with Jerry as their owner after suffering for so long under the Daniel Snyder regime.[/quote]
Wrong. There was no losing for a decade before Jerry took over. After Staubach retired Danny White took us to 3 straight championship games in the early 80's and we didn't have any losing seasons till after 1986. And look how the WFT team has turned it around after scumbag Snyder was forced out. Talk about heading in the right direction. WFT will sweep the Cowboys this year.

[Micah Prescott]

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity now (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

Also athletes now are just on another level. Much bigger, much faster on average. Everything has evolved so much since the 80s and 90s. The schemes are way different.

Most teams today would absolutely wreck the 90s Cowboys. The average weight of a WR in 1990 was 180lbs. Today WRs are 200lb monsters. Irvin was one of those back then but today's CBs are way more conditioned to deal with players like him.

That is just the way it is. And any team in the 90s would wreck a team from the 60s. Players were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines back then. Many worked 2 jobs.

We all like to think our childhood sports idols were the best. But the reality is that the best are playing right now.

What you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about here.

Just adding onto the theme that "The NFL that you once knew is long gone."

[bluejerseyjinx]

Also athletes now are just on another level. Much bigger, much faster on average. Everything has evolved so much since the 80s and 90s. The schemes are way different.

Most teams today would absolutely wreck the 90s Cowboys. The average weight of a WR in 1990 was 180lbs. Today WRs are 200lb monsters. Irvin was one of those back then but today's CBs are way more conditioned to deal with players like him.

That is just the way it is. And any team in the 90s would wreck a team from the 60s. Players were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines back then. Many worked 2 jobs.

We all like to think our childhood sports idols were the best. But the reality is that the best are playing right now.

What you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about here.

Just adding onto the theme that "The NFL that you once knew is long gone."

Like I said, nothing you are posting has anything to do with this discussion. I know the game has evolved, the players and coaches have evolved. The rules and times have changed. What hasn't changed over the years is it still takes a top Gm, coach and QB with a top notch front office and culture and an owner that allows that to happen. We don't have that anymore.

[Mr B]

The Cowboys haven't had consecutive losing seasons in over 20 years. Even if Jerry is the problem with them not winning championships, that's still better than most

Shad Khan has owned the Jags for 13 seasons, and last year was the first time they had consecutive winning seasons under him, and only the 3rd total season they won more than 6 games under him. That's what bad ownership looks like.

I would say that whoever owns the Titans is a much worse owner than Jerry too.

[Mariner]

Here are some facts
38 percent of the owners have never won a SB.
Jerry has three. How can an owner who has never won anything be ranked ahead of Jerry?
Only one owner has won more SBs than Jerry since he entered the league.
Don’t get me wrong. If Jerry ever sold the team I would have the biggest party ever. This drought sucks.
As usual this is just BJJ ranting non coherent nonsense and telling us to get off his lawn.

[WentzerWuver]

Wrong. There was no losing for a decade before Jerry took over. After Staubach retired Danny White took us to 3 straight championship games in the early 80's and we didn't have any losing seasons till after 1986. And look how the WFT team has turned it around after scumbag Snyder was forced out. Talk about heading in the right direction. WFT will sweep the Cowboys this year.

Well, I don't follow them that far back but those 4 straight losing seasons seem like a decade. Not too many owners are inducted into the HOF but Jerry made it yet Kraft hasn't. Winning championships has nothing to do with it but their vast contribution to the league, not that it matters to a bandwagon fan.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Here are some facts
38 percent of the owners have never won a SB.
JImmy has three. How can an owner who has never won anything be ranked ahead of Jerry?
Only one owner has won more SBs than Jerry since he entered the league.
Don’t get me wrong. If Jerry ever sold the team I would have the biggest party ever. This drought sucks.
As usual this is just BJJ ranting non coherent nonsense and telling us to get off his lawn.

Fixed.That team should of and would have won more if Jimmy stayed and ran the football operations. If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Mariner]

Here are some facts
38 percent of the owners have never won a SB.
JImmy has three. How can an owner who has never won anything be ranked ahead of Jerry?
Only one owner has won more SBs than Jerry since he entered the league.
Don’t get me wrong. If Jerry ever sold the team I would have the biggest party ever. This drought sucks.
As usual this is just BJJ ranting non coherent nonsense and telling us to get off his lawn.

Fixed.That team should have and would have won more if Jimmy stayed and ran the football operations. If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Who was the owner? We are talking about owners!
When Jerry fired Landry it was very controversial. Everyone made fun of him for hiring a college coach.
Jerry deserves credit for hiring Jimmy.

[Mr B]

Oh stop el turco. You more than most others should understand where I am coming from here. There is a reason why the Cowboys and Niners were ALWAYS the class of the NFC till the mid-90's. The generation I grew up in had the highest standard for our football team. And that is one of the problems we have here. The young new generation Cowboy fans have their standard down by their ankles. Its always Super Bowl or bust. We always had that mentality. The NFC Championship game was the absolute minimum of acceptance year in and year out.

You have unrealistic expectations.

The NFL that you once knew is long gone. The league is about parity now (salary cap). Dynasties of the past are not realistic unless you have a goat tier QB. The Patriots we're an anomaly. The Chiefs are as well.

Also athletes now are just on another level. Much bigger, much faster on average. Everything has evolved so much since the 80s and 90s. The schemes are way different.

Most teams today would absolutely wreck the 90s Cowboys. The average weight of a WR in 1990 was 180lbs. Today WRs are 200lb monsters. Irvin was one of those back then but today's CBs are way more conditioned to deal with players like him.

That is just the way it is. And any team in the 90s would wreck a team from the 60s. Players were smoking cigarettes on the sidelines back then. Many worked 2 jobs.

We all like to think our childhood sports idols were the best. But the reality is that the best are playing right now.

Michael Irvin was 6’1” 200 in his prime. Jerry Rice and Tim Brown were about the same size. Guys like Cris Carter, James Lofton, John Taylor, and Alvin Harper were all bigger.

When it comes to most teams today being able to beat the 90’s Cowboys, I’m not so sure about that. First which rules are we playing by?

[Mr B]

Here are some facts
38 percent of the owners have never won a SB.
JImmy has three. How can an owner who has never won anything be ranked ahead of Jerry?
Only one owner has won more SBs than Jerry since he entered the league.
Don’t get me wrong. If Jerry ever sold the team I would have the biggest party ever. This drought sucks.
As usual this is just BJJ ranting non coherent nonsense and telling us to get off his lawn.

Fixed.That team should have and would have won more if Jimmy stayed and ran the football operations. If it wasn't for Jimmy, Jerry would have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Who was the owner? We are talking about owners!
When Jerry fired Landry it was very controversial. Everyone made fun of him for hiring a college coach.
Jerry deserves credit for hiring Jimmy.

BJJ seems to forget that Jimmy was leaving regardless. He had already accomplished what he wanted to and was ready to move on. Jimmy himself has said that many times over the years. He couldn’t wait to get to Florida. He had been leaking for a year that he wanted to interview for the Jacksonville Jaguars job. Jerry just beat him to the punch when he fired him. And technically Jimmy resigned and wasn’t fired if I remember correctly.