NBA Trade Thread #11

[MrSparkle]

The Bulls should be monitoring Trea Young, Giannis and Embiid. I think all three of them will get heavy trade consideration in the off-season (if not sooner). Any of those guys would pair great with Zach and hopefully, by some miracle, Flagg.

Here's a trade idea for Giannis:

Zach, Matas, Giddey, 28/30/32/34 FRPs unprotected, 25/27/29 swaps

Milwaukee says "no."

Bulls say "Coby too?"

Milwaukee says "no."

34yo Durant with injuries commanded more than that since Mikal and Cam were "value" 3D starters on a finals team, and Nets got the decade FRP haul. Giannis is in his prime, healthy, and Milwaukee is a division rival.

Embiid's largely the same conversation.

I don't see the point of engaging Trae. He hasn't been able to get a more athletic/talented team to succeed, in the same ways as Zach. He is a great offensive player, but defensively a big problem, and that's our big problem.

[Chi town]

Wonder if Wolves will make a move.

Lavine’s Craig for DDV Randle and a 1st?

Bulls flip Randle and DDV for assets?

Naz Reid starts at PF for the Wolves.

[Chi town]

Vuc back to the Magic for Goga Anthony’s bad contract and a Magic or DEN 1st?

Or TDS?

[FriedRise]

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[Rose2Boozer]

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A second round pick, and thank you very much.

[jordanwilliams6]

Craig should have interest in these teams that lack playable rotation players. He’s certainly good enough to play 15 minutes a game in a rotation.

Bucks & Nuggets stick out as teams needing him and we should be able to get a minor asset in return.

[sco]

Craig should have interest in these teams that lack playable rotation players. He’s certainly good enough to play 15 minutes a game in a rotation.

Bucks & Nuggets stick out as teams needing him and we should be able to get a minor asset in return.

or sixers

[kodo]

Bleacher Report's Jake Fischer lists Patrick Williams as a potential trade candidate

Fischer went on to say that the "[Bulls] are more willing than ever to discuss [Patrick Williams] in a trade." He alluded to Williams' untapped potential and relatively inexpensive salary as the reasoning behind a future inclusion on the trade block.

Later, Fischer mentioned that Williams isn't on the Warriors' wishlist, and he was instead a fascinating name, which the NBA Insider believes to be an attainable trade piece. Fisher doubled down on the 6-foot-8 forward's intriguing value, saying, "he has lottery-pick upside…and has never truly tapped into that potential."

https://pippenainteasy.com/nba-insider-lists-23-year-old-forward-potential-trade-candidate

"Willing to discuss" still sounds far away from actually shopping him but it's interesting. Fischer has been accurate w/ Chicago rumors.

[sco]

Bleacher Report's Jake Fischer lists Patrick Williams as a potential trade candidate

Fischer went on to say that the "[Bulls] are more willing than ever to discuss [Patrick Williams] in a trade." He alluded to Williams' untapped potential and relatively inexpensive salary as the reasoning behind a future inclusion on the trade block.

Later, Fischer mentioned that Williams isn't on the Warriors' wishlist, and he was instead a fascinating name, which the NBA Insider believes to be an attainable trade piece. Fisher doubled down on the 6-foot-8 forward's intriguing value, saying, "he has lottery-pick upside…and has never truly tapped into that potential."

https://pippenainteasy.com/nba-insider-lists-23-year-old-forward-potential-trade-candidate

"Willing to discuss" still sounds far away from actually shopping him but it's interesting. Fischer has been accurate w/ Chicago rumors.

If we're selling on PWill (which is fine), please wait and don't sell at an alltime low. Maybe after the season.

[ChettheJet]

Patrick is the third or fifth guy they should trade. Today if they move him they're going to start Phillips or Matas at the 4, that's a complete tank move and a serious drop in attitude from both Zach and Vuc. Those two, Carter and Craig should be the first 3 or 4 traded then see what you get back in those trades and decide if you step back and move Williams or see if he can deliver at the 3.

I'm willing to move Craig even getting Beuchamp in return but they need to make a move to get a 4 to replace him, either expanding a deal with the Bucks to include a 3rd team or trading some from Carter, Duarte, Terry to get a legit PF.

[Chi town]

1. With Craig and Oat now in trade rumors we have Vuc Lavine Coby and Ayo all out there. This would indicate Bulls are def looking to tank and rebuild not just reload.

2. I’d keep Craig and trade him with Vuc or Lavine to upgrade the pick we get back or a better young talent.

3. If Terry and Buz can play D like they did against the Hawks we are a good team when Pat and Zo return. We need to trade players to tank before we win too many game.

Someone mentioned we have had top 3 hardest schedules and have easiest remaining schedule.

[burlydee]

I think Craig to the Knicks makes a lot of sense. That team has no depth and a ton of 2nd round picks. Craig for filler and the best of their 3 2nd round picks this season.

Teams like Denver, Milwaukee and Phoenix have almost no draft capital. The Knicks are trying to make a run now.

[WindyCityBorn]

The Bulls should be monitoring Trea Young, Giannis and Embiid. I think all three of them will get heavy trade consideration in the off-season (if not sooner). Any of those guys would pair great with Zach and hopefully, by some miracle, Flagg.

Bulls should not be monitoring any of those players.

[WindyCityBorn]

Why would we want older players like Embiid or Giannis. We want a youth movement. Not a quick fix that would all of our assets and likely blow up in our face. Trae Young? Yuck.

[DuckIII]

Why would we want older players like Embiid or Giannis. We want a youth movement. Not a quick fix that would all of our assets and likely blow up in our face. Trae Young? Yuck.

We don't have the assets to get Giannis and he would never agree to a trade here, but if we could get him and pair him with Lavine that is actually the type of move you do. They are both 29 years old, compliment each other almost perfectly, and would project as a core you could contend with pretty quickly.

But its moot. We don't have anywhere even close the types of assets for that transaction.

[WindyCityBorn]

Why would we want older players like Embiid or Giannis. We want a youth movement. Not a quick fix that would all of our assets and likely blow up in our face. Trae Young? Yuck.

We don't have the assets to get Giannis and he would never agree to a trade here, but if we could get him and pair him with Lavine that is actually the type of move you do. They are both 29 years old, compliment each other almost perfectly, and would project as a core you could contend with pretty quickly.

But its moot. We don't have anywhere even close the types of assets for that transaction.

I was assuming LaVine would be part of any trade for a star.

[patryk7754]

This idea of a youth movement for the bulls is extremely flawed. It would be one thing if we were building around extremely talented players like Tatum or brown or if we had a lot of really good role players like the thunder but we don’t. Our three best “youth” players aren’t that good. Giddy and white are on offense and completely useless on defense. Williams is good on defense but useless on offense. All our other youth movement players are g league talent. Smith and matas are the only ones worth keeping on a team. We’re on the trajectory of being a more competitive hornets becuase of Vuc and Lavine. If we want a youth movement it should start with drafting a potential star in this draft but that won’t happen becuase the gm doesn’t want tank so he isn’t fired.

Dont be fooled…this isn’t a youth movement. The gm built a roster that can ge fast pace and high scoring so he can point to having one of the best offenses when he’s asked why he shouldn’t be fired

[DuckIII]

Why would we want older players like Embiid or Giannis. We want a youth movement. Not a quick fix that would all of our assets and likely blow up in our face. Trae Young? Yuck.

We don't have the assets to get Giannis and he would never agree to a trade here, but if we could get him and pair him with Lavine that is actually the type of move you do. They are both 29 years old, compliment each other almost perfectly, and would project as a core you could contend with pretty quickly.

But its moot. We don't have anywhere even close the types of assets for that transaction.

I was assuming LaVine would be part of any trade for a star.

I was just responding to his hypothetical, which has Lavine staying. Not sure Bucks would want Lavine anyway. I would imagine their ideal trade package for Giannis involves virtually no veteran high dollar players on multi-year deals.

And there are plenty of teams that can obliterate any offer we come up with. So it’s still moot anyway.

[DuckIII]

This idea of a youth movement for the bulls is extremely flawed. It would be one thing if we were building around extremely talented players like Tatum or brown or if we had a lot of really good role players like the thunder but we don’t. Our three best “youth” players aren’t that good. Giddy and white are on offense and completely useless on defense. Williams is good on defense but useless on offense. All our other youth movement players are g league talent. Smith and matas are the only ones worth keeping on a team. We’re on the trajectory of being a more competitive hornets becuase of Vuc and Lavine. If we want a youth movement it should start with drafting a potential star in this draft but that won’t happen becuase the gm doesn’t want tank so he isn’t fired.

Dont be fooled…this isn’t a youth movement. The gm built a roster that can ge fast pace and high scoring so he can point to having one of the best offenses when he’s asked why he shouldn’t be fired

I don’t really think anyone agrees with your general point. There are a couple of posters who still seem to think AK is good, but everyone else sees the stupid line he’s trying to walk here.

[patryk7754]

This idea of a youth movement for the bulls is extremely flawed. It would be one thing if we were building around extremely talented players like Tatum or brown or if we had a lot of really good role players like the thunder but we don’t. Our three best “youth” players aren’t that good. Giddy and white are on offense and completely useless on defense. Williams is good on defense but useless on offense. All our other youth movement players are g league talent. Smith and matas are the only ones worth keeping on a team. We’re on the trajectory of being a more competitive hornets becuase of Vuc and Lavine. If we want a youth movement it should start with drafting a potential star in this draft but that won’t happen becuase the gm doesn’t want tank so he isn’t fired.

Dont be fooled…this isn’t a youth movement. The gm built a roster that can ge fast pace and high scoring so he can point to having one of the best offenses when he’s asked why he shouldn’t be fired

I don’t really think anyone agrees with your general point. There are a couple of posters who still seem to think AK is good, but everyone else sees the stupid line he’s trying to walk here.

Idk. Every time I make a post about trading giddey or white I got three or four posters telling me how dumb of an idea it is to trade our future