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What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games?

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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#21 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:54 pm

VFX wrote:Boost AB and Jett's minutes. I don't care about the results.

Losses are better at this juncture.

Trade everything, other than Franz Paolo and Suggs, this offseason possibly including the pick if it isn't top 3.


Thought about this last night while seeing AB and Jett play. How this is what teams that are really rebuilding do. Ya'know, play the players they draft and let them learn trial by fire.

We lost, in the dumbest of ways, but I still think its possible to win by 20 against Toronto next game. Maybe even 40. All just depends whom shows up.

But otherwise yes, "analysis mode" on everyone else but the big 3.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#22 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Mar 3, 2025 7:25 pm

Part of me wonders if these last 21 games are more important for AB or Jett?

I'd probably go AB and would imagine the FO is going to be put in a situation where they might have to move AB to get anything valuable back. Think that was the issue with them at the deadline, they didn't want to move a 1st & AB + Cole/Gary to get something of value but in the summer, they probably don't have the option to not include AB in any deal.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#23 » by anothermagicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:55 pm

OrlandoDream wrote:I want to see what this team looks like with an actual PG. Cut Cole out of the rotation. Give Mac a chance or just play Corey Joseph. We need some halfcourt playmaking from ANYONE.




The run the magic went on to finish that game last night in the last 6 minutes was a totally different team that played the rest of the game. That run also coincidentally was the same 5 or 6 minutes Corey Joseph played.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#24 » by Jiwol » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:02 pm

Actually I have no desire to watch any Magic games right now so my season long League Pass subscription looks like a really bad investment. I guess I'll watch a single play-in game (there will be only one for Magic, book it) to piss myself off even more and that will be all.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#25 » by anothermagicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:10 pm

I think I want to see a starting lineup of Goga/Paolo/Franz/KCP/AB

After this I want to see TDS and Jett replace Goga and KCP for a regular look at the youth movement. This is actually our last 5 first round picks and it's Paolo sliding over to the center spot. Can his interior defense on opposing centers be any worse than his perimeter defense against anybody? That group would look like this

Paolo/Franz/TDS/Jett/AB

Like seriously is the offense or defense going to be any worse than we've been recently? Why not get a look?

This group would lead to the second unit of

WCJ/JI/TDS/KCP/Cole

Maybe some of these guys would look better playing off the bench roles and could regain some trade value and we could salvage this mess of a team
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#26 » by anothermagicfan » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:20 pm

I get why WCJ is the starting center. On paper he's the guy that can help spread the floor on the offense for Paolo and Franz, but he doesn't cause he's shooting like 20% for 3. And Goga doesn't take 3s really. He tried a couple the other night. Both misses(somebody on the team should tell him if he made just 1 it would've been the difference between a loss and a win lol) which isn't surprising so defenses automatically pack the paint and limit what Orlando's 2 best players want to do. Get to the rim. And Moe is out for the year.

That leaves JI. How about a significant run of JI as starting center. Stay inside, defend the paint, protect the rim, rebound and on offense stand on the 3 point line and hit some 3s and follow some shots for some Outbacks. Oh and can this happen for say 22 minutes a night every night?
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#27 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:31 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:I get why WCJ is the starting center. On paper he's the guy that can help spread the floor on the offense for Paolo and Franz, but he doesn't cause he's shooting like 20% for 3. And Goga doesn't take 3s really. He tried a couple the other night. Both misses(somebody on the team should tell him if he made just 1 it would've been the difference between a loss and a win lol) which isn't surprising so defenses automatically pack the paint and limit what Orlando's 2 best players want to do. Get to the rim. And Moe is out for the year.

That leaves JI. How about a significant run of JI as starting center. Stay inside, defend the paint, protect the rim, rebound and on offense stand on the 3 point line and hit some 3s and follow some shots for some Outbacks. Oh and can this happen for say 22 minutes a night every night?

The answer to that question is no.. Isaac’s body failed him and he had to be dealt with bubble wrap
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Post#28 » by Skybox » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:05 am

The biggest concern is now Paolo and his relationship with Mose. This is not a knee jerk reaction to his Mom’s tweets…we’ve seen his frustration and his difficulties with the state of the team. Regardless of his role in the terrible recent stretch, repairing & strengthening his allegiance to ORL is job 1. If he and Franz and Suggs are on-board, a proactive FO (I know - believe me it was hard to type that) can manage the rest around them…but if there’s any hint of discord, there’s a real danger of this team plummeting back into nowheresville with a handful of overpaid gimps and a pocketful of picks for our trouble.

If Paolo can’t be brought completely onboard, I’d ask for his help in hiring the next FO (hopefully not coach too)… :o
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#29 » by anothermagicfan » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:27 am

What I question is the true intent of this organization at this point. Something has to give and given the performance of the win/loss record is there a converted effort to expose the weaknesses of the roster here? Is Mosley trying to win with what he's got? Or is he on board with a bigger plan from the FO? Are we really as bad as we've been lately just because of injuries? Are we sending the team out with this game plan because it's our best chance to win games or are we setting them up to fail for the purpose of growth?

It's bewildering to me right now what the goal of this season is.
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Post#30 » by OrlandoDream » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:25 am

anothermagicfan wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:I want to see what this team looks like with an actual PG. Cut Cole out of the rotation. Give Mac a chance or just play Corey Joseph. We need some halfcourt playmaking from ANYONE.




The run the magic went on to finish that game last night in the last 6 minutes was a totally different team that played the rest of the game. That run also coincidentally was the same 5 or 6 minutes Corey Joseph played.

Yes that's what happens when we have a player with any real PG skills to set some pick and roll, run some halfcourt offense, and not turn it over every other possession. Corey Joseph is on brink of retirement. It speaks on how bad AB and Cole are that he made them looks expandable. A complete failure on weltman on building this roster.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#31 » by Bensational » Tue Mar 4, 2025 6:44 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Part of me wonders if these last 21 games are more important for AB or Jett?

I'd probably go AB and would imagine the FO is going to be put in a situation where they might have to move AB to get anything valuable back. Think that was the issue with them at the deadline, they didn't want to move a 1st & AB + Cole/Gary to get something of value but in the summer, they probably don't have the option to not include AB in any deal.


Yeah unless our pick lands top 10, our filler of KCP, WCJ, Isaac and Cole will only go so far in a move for a guy like Trae or Booker. Maaaaaybe Kyrie can force his way here without the Magic having to hand over all our future assets in one go? But I think AB will be a must in talks for big names.

You’d essentially be converting AB + pick + salary into what you’d hope they’d become in 2-3 seasons - and paying a hefty price for it very quickly.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#32 » by pepe1991 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:07 am

With 6 games behind Pistons, we have near 0% chance at direct to play offs spot.
We are actually now only 0,5 games ahead of 9th spot ( Hawks).

Tank-crew isn't realistic, it would be near impossible to go lower than 10th worst record and still odds of actually landing top 4 pick would be sub 15%.

Next 20 games should be all about figuring out WHY this roster is so bad. We have TWO injuried player, not 5, not 6, not 10. Two.
Among two of them, one had ACL tear and probably won't even be ready to play in October ( probably not until 2026).
And we have no clue how Suggs knee will hold short nor long term.

Goes without saying we need trades, but it's pivotal to figure wtf is going on.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#33 » by cedric76 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:47 am

Jett, KCP, Franz, Paolo, Goga with Franz and P5 handling the ball (Jett and KCP will give them the space needed)
AB, Cole ,TDS,JI, WCJ

This is the best way to find out if AB and Jett can be part of our future

No matter what happen, we ll make the playin and wont win the title this year, so use the rest of the season to make our FINAL evaluation
Suggs, AB, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, TDS , Jett
Franz, TDS, Panda
P5, JI, Panda, Moe
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#34 » by basketballRob » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:35 pm

I'd like to see them start AB, Jett, Franz, Paolo, and Goga.

I don't want to see Wendell play another minute because I hate watching him. Just cut Caleb and take a chance on a good G-league, European player, or find a gem on waivers like Goga.

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Post#35 » by RichCollab » Tue Mar 4, 2025 2:01 pm

Fire GM is what I want to see.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#36 » by 89Magicfan » Tue Mar 4, 2025 2:09 pm

RichCollab wrote:Fire GM is what I want to see.



Was just going to post this!
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#37 » by Fortune Teller » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:22 pm

RichCollab wrote:Fire GM is what I want to see.

Same. Jeff packing up his office.
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#38 » by anothermagicfan » Tue Mar 4, 2025 9:57 pm

basketballRob wrote:I'd like to see them start AB, Jett, Franz, Paolo, and Goga.

I don't want to see Wendell play another minute because I hate watching him. Just cut Caleb and take a chance on a good G-league, European player, or find a gem on waivers like Goga.

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Id be okay with looking at this lineup. I also want to see TDS more with the ball in his hands on the second unit. And yeah about WCJ. Has his slow motion pump fake ever fooled anyone? The ball in his hands is just a chance for the defense to catch their breath for a few seconds
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#39 » by Skybox » Tue Mar 4, 2025 10:01 pm

RichCollab wrote:Fire GM is what I want to see.


Believe it or not, I tend to be an optimist...so, the fact that even I can't rationalize this clown show means it's probably been unsalvageable for 2-3 years.

I'd honestly hire Nico over Weltman...he's willing to take action and he just F**ked up really bad, so maybe he's learned a hard recent lesson. I doubt Nico gets the boot right away, however, because ownership and their wallets certainly had a LOT to do with the Luka move. In fact, he's completely absorbed all of the vitriol on their behalf without ever pointing anywhere else. I give him credit for that, despite being so involved in one of the worst trades ever...really a bummer for him that AD AND Kyrie now out for extended periods.

Well...maybe not Nico :D
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Re: What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games? 

Post#40 » by drsd » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:49 am

What do you want to see in the final 21 regular season games?


Some wins???

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