Knicks sign MarJon Beauchamp to 2way

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

But is he better than Okeke and TJ Warren? Those are the two wings that were speculated on a lot, then this Marjon guy is signed outta the blue

Neither of those guys could be signed to a 2 way deal. Has to be under 4 years of NBA service.

Do the Knicks only have money for a 2-way deal or could they have fit a vet minimum deal and stayed under the 2nd apron? I know we have some cap experts here. I don't remember if you're one of them.

At this point, past the deadline, what happens if they sign a player and go over the 2nd apron? I'm not sure how that would affect them, since 1) they don't have a draft pick and 2) I think it resets in the off-season, but maybe there is a negative affect I'm not aware of.

Second point first....the Knicks are literally prohibited from going over the second apron this year. No deal doing that can be allowed.

Which leaves us with ... The Knicks do have space to add a vet min contract as of right now. (Actually as of 28 Feb). Now they could add more than one if they do two things: (1) cut a player from the roster - most likely Demon Wright and (2) balance the days remaining in the season until iiirc 13 April. So, for example, they could cut Wright on 22 March and sign two vet min contacts on that day.

Now we kinda assume TJ Warren was/is in pole position for one of those slots. He's someone one could envisage Thibs giving minutes to in the playoffs.

However with Huk being out (and I think 4-6 weeks is absurdly optimistic for a meniscus tear) the Knicks almost certainly must be pondering prioritising Moses Brown.

Myself, I can see Thibs basically point blank refusing to use him. Which is a problem. And that could be a reason the Knicks haven't made a move to fill the 15th roster spot yet. Or maybe they are just wheedling along until 20x of March. Hard to tell.

Would you pick up Beauchamp over TJ or Okeke for the playoffs? Almost certainly no. Both from Thibs's standpoint and from that of a sane FO and/or spectator.

[thebuzzardman]

I'd never heard of him, but I'm reminded of the line from Moneyball. "If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?" That said, if he brings more to the table than Matt Ryan or the brother Toppin, I'm all for this kind of move.

i can safely say he’s better than both

But is he better than Okeke and TJ Warren? Those are the two wings that were speculated on a lot, then this Marjon guy is signed outta the blue

Unless I'm mistaken, isn't there still a roster spot for Warren?

[thebuzzardman]

Beauchamp is like getting a free decent mid to late 2nd round pick, or that nice UDFA who was available after the draft was over.

Probably a player who won't amount to much but you never know. Jacob Toppin, McCullars, etc.

Better to use the two way there than Matt Ryan.
Toppin, they must have figured was at his ceiling. Probably released him so he might get signed elsewhere and his agent gets a little boost (Nepo baby Sammy gets a little bump!)

Interesting they cut two of the two way players at once. Maybe there is another young player they figure will shake loose.

Could be some roster spot maneuvering with the 2nd two way, a way to get a cheap insurance big on the roster for the rest of the regular season. Then when KAT or Mitch sit, someone like Moses Brown or Bamba (not sure if eligible for two way) get activated for a game.

[j4remi]

The one thing take I had from watching Beauchamp was that the kid plays some defense. Other than that, nothing he did stood out. Worth a look? Sure, and maybe if OG needs a rest day, he can provide some of wing defense that Thibs demands in spot minutes. I hope the second two-way contract goes to a big man.

[RHODEY]

Watch on YouTube

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Beauchamp is like getting a free decent mid to late 2nd round pick, or that nice UDFA who was available after the draft was over.

Probably a player who won't amount to much but you never know. Jacob Toppin, McCullars, etc.

Better to use the two way there than Matt Ryan.
Toppin, they must have figured was at his ceiling. Probably released him so he might get signed elsewhere and his agent gets a little boost (Nepo baby Sammy gets a little bump!)

Interesting they cut two of the two way players at once. Maybe there is another young player they figure will shake loose.

Could be some roster spot maneuvering with the 2nd two way, a way to get a cheap insurance big on the roster for the rest of the regular season. Then when KAT or Mitch sit, someone like Moses Brown or Bamba (not sure if eligible for two way) get activated for a game.

Brown and Bamba aren't eligible for two way contracts. (I think it has to be done today, also )

[RHODEY]

He always reminded me of Robert Covington, but if Convington couldn't shoot

Beauchamp can shoot just fine

And he's more athletic. I watched him recently with the Bucks and my only concern was his basketball IQ....it seemed kinda low...but that's possibly fixable over time, under the right conditions.

[Lord Commander]

Wanted Moses Brown.

[louisorr]

pretty excited to see a new name with DNPCD next to it.

[Handledatruth]

If it were any other coach I'd be a little optimistic, but Thibs doesn't play anyone outside his 9-man. So whatever...

[knicksstuff]

Knicks till have have another two way spot open (moses, tj, okeke pj tucket etc arent eligible for that spot)

Knicks have 15th roster spot open players above can be added or can use it to do 10 day contracts based on depth need

If the Knicks wanted to cut a player on the roster they can do so before the last game of the season and fit in another free agent on the last day of the season.

[robillionaire]

Wanted Moses Brown.

Could still happen we have another spot

[DE FENSE]

Wanted Moses Brown.

Could still happen we have another spot

He just signed back with Westchester. Not sure what the implications are but I hope we give him the final roster spot.

[thebuzzardman]

Beauchamp is like getting a free decent mid to late 2nd round pick, or that nice UDFA who was available after the draft was over.

Probably a player who won't amount to much but you never know. Jacob Toppin, McCullars, etc.

Better to use the two way there than Matt Ryan.
Toppin, they must have figured was at his ceiling. Probably released him so he might get signed elsewhere and his agent gets a little boost (Nepo baby Sammy gets a little bump!)

Interesting they cut two of the two way players at once. Maybe there is another young player they figure will shake loose.

Could be some roster spot maneuvering with the 2nd two way, a way to get a cheap insurance big on the roster for the rest of the regular season. Then when KAT or Mitch sit, someone like Moses Brown or Bamba (not sure if eligible for two way) get activated for a game.

Brown and Bamba aren't eligible for two way contracts. (I think it has to be done today, also )

I figured Bamba wasn't. I wasn't sure about Brown.

[spree8]

Neither of those guys could be signed to a 2 way deal. Has to be under 4 years of NBA service.

Do the Knicks only have money for a 2-way deal or could they have fit a vet minimum deal and stayed under the 2nd apron? I know we have some cap experts here. I don't remember if you're one of them.

At this point, past the deadline, what happens if they sign a player and go over the 2nd apron? I'm not sure how that would affect them, since 1) they don't have a draft pick and 2) I think it resets in the off-season, but maybe there is a negative affect I'm not aware of.

Second point first....the Knicks are literally prohibited from going over the second apron this year. No deal doing that can be allowed.

Which leaves us with ... The Knicks do have space to add a vet min contract as of right now. (Actually as of 28 Feb). Now they could add more than one if they do two things: (1) cut a player from the roster - most likely Demon Wright and (2) balance the days remaining in the season until iiirc 13 April. So, for example, they could cut Wright on 22 March and sign two vet min contacts on that day.

Now we kinda assume TJ Warren was/is in pole position for one of those slots. He's someone one could envisage Thibs giving minutes to in the playoffs.

However with Huk being out (and I think 4-6 weeks is absurdly optimistic for a meniscus tear) the Knicks almost certainly must be pondering prioritising Moses Brown.

Myself, I can see Thibs basically point blank refusing to use him. Which is a problem. And that could be a reason the Knicks haven't made a move to fill the 15th roster spot yet. Or maybe they are just wheedling along until 20x of March. Hard to tell.

Would you pick up Beauchamp over TJ or Okeke for the playoffs? Almost certainly no. Both from Thibs's standpoint and from that of a sane FO and/or spectator.

Damn, so now we gotta wait til March 22 to sign 2 vet min players? They’ll prob all be taken by then

[HarthorneWingo]

Cam Reddish 2.0

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Beauchamp is like getting a free decent mid to late 2nd round pick, or that nice UDFA who was available after the draft was over.

Probably a player who won't amount to much but you never know. Jacob Toppin, McCullars, etc.

Better to use the two way there than Matt Ryan.
Toppin, they must have figured was at his ceiling. Probably released him so he might get signed elsewhere and his agent gets a little boost (Nepo baby Sammy gets a little bump!)

Interesting they cut two of the two way players at once. Maybe there is another young player they figure will shake loose.

Could be some roster spot maneuvering with the 2nd two way, a way to get a cheap insurance big on the roster for the rest of the regular season. Then when KAT or Mitch sit, someone like Moses Brown or Bamba (not sure if eligible for two way) get activated for a game.

Brown and Bamba aren't eligible for two way contracts. (I think it has to be done today, also )

I figured Bamba wasn't. I wasn't sure about Brown.

(i) No Team may sign a player to a Two-Way Contract after March 4 of any Season.

(ii) No Team may sign or convert a player to a Two-Way Contract if the player has or may have four (4) or more Years of Service at any point during the Contract. For example, a player with three (3) Years of Service would not be eligible to sign a Two-Way Contract with a term of two (2) years. Notwithstanding the foregoing, a Team may sign or convert a player who has four (4) Years of Service to a Two-Way Contract covering no more than one (1) Season if the player was credited with one (1) or more Years of Service in respect of a Season in which he (A) did not play in a Regular Season, Play-In, or playoff game and (B) was on a Team’s roster at all times from the first day of the Regular Season through the end of the last day of the Regular Season.

(iii) No Team may sign or convert a player to a Two-Way Contract, or acquire a Two-Way Contract by means of assignment, if, as a result, the player would or could be under a Two-Way Contract for any part of more than three (3) Salary Cap Years with the same NBA Team. For example, a player who completes a two-year Two-Way Contract with a Team could not subsequently sign a two-year Two-Way Contract with that Team.

Brown's first season was 2019-2020 and he's played in games every year since.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Do the Knicks only have money for a 2-way deal or could they have fit a vet minimum deal and stayed under the 2nd apron? I know we have some cap experts here. I don't remember if you're one of them.

At this point, past the deadline, what happens if they sign a player and go over the 2nd apron? I'm not sure how that would affect them, since 1) they don't have a draft pick and 2) I think it resets in the off-season, but maybe there is a negative affect I'm not aware of.

Second point first....the Knicks are literally prohibited from going over the second apron this year. No deal doing that can be allowed.

Which leaves us with ... The Knicks do have space to add a vet min contract as of right now. (Actually as of 28 Feb). Now they could add more than one if they do two things: (1) cut a player from the roster - most likely Demon Wright and (2) balance the days remaining in the season until iiirc 13 April. So, for example, they could cut Wright on 22 March and sign two vet min contacts on that day.

Now we kinda assume TJ Warren was/is in pole position for one of those slots. He's someone one could envisage Thibs giving minutes to in the playoffs.

However with Huk being out (and I think 4-6 weeks is absurdly optimistic for a meniscus tear) the Knicks almost certainly must be pondering prioritising Moses Brown.

Myself, I can see Thibs basically point blank refusing to use him. Which is a problem. And that could be a reason the Knicks haven't made a move to fill the 15th roster spot yet. Or maybe they are just wheedling along until 20x of March. Hard to tell.

Would you pick up Beauchamp over TJ or Okeke for the playoffs? Almost certainly no. Both from Thibs's standpoint and from that of a sane FO and/or spectator.

Damn, so now we gotta wait til March 22 to sign 2 vet min players? They’ll prob all be taken by then

No, no.Sorry, I maybe wasn't clear.

The Knicks can sign one vet min player right now. Brown, for the sake of argument. Then they would have to wait until April 8th (I think) if they wanted to cut, say, Wright and sign another vet, for example TJ.

Or they could wait x days and sign one vet and then cut Wright and sign another on x days before April 8th.

[WaltFrazier]

The thing about Brown is, Thibs already stopped playing Achiuwa as soon as Mitch returned, so what does it matter if we sign Brown or not? He wouldn't play.

Although if KAT really is out tonight I imagine Precious will play a lot again. As someone posted on another thread he'll go from DNP to 40 minutes.

[GONYK]

The thing about Brown is, Thibs already stopped playing Achiuwa as soon as Mitch returned, so what does it matter if we sign Brown or not? He wouldn't play.

Although if KAT really is out tonight I imagine Precious will play a lot again. As someone posted on another thread he'll go from DNP to 40 minutes.

And Precious is better than Brown