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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#21 » by wemby » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:31 am

Pass on MPJ's contract, I would rather take my chances with that money in free agency.
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#22 » by wemby » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:40 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Spurs should ask for Holmes if they are taking on MPJ.


why? they are not sending out positive value either

They're taking on an extra 24 million that second season. There's a thing called "opportunity cost", i.e., opportunities you're missing by taking a certain path. So if you believe Spurs can use those 24 million in free agency, for instance (or trading for another player, or selling that cap space, etc), this isn't such a good deal for them.
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#23 » by pipfan » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:21 am

Bulls' fan here-I'd do it. I like Smith a lot, but hate watching Williams play
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#24 » by ChettheJet » Mon Jun 9, 2025 1:58 pm

I don't see Keldon Johnson being what the Bulls are looking for, he's managed to play himself out of the starting lineup for a bad team so he's not part of the future for the Bulls. I don't see any sense for the Bulls to trade a still young athletic Jalen Smith for a guy checking out what his pension plan is worth in Saric. Williams isn't an unplayable slug, he can play of both ends, OK not as good on offense as most would like but he's not garbage, if he can play better on another team he can come back in CHI.

Leave the Bulls out of our MPJ shipping
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#25 » by BigGargamel » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:25 pm

:lol:

Man, give me MPJ instead of three mediocre backups. Depth is overrated when the players aren't even that good. Just sign a vet or two on a minimum deal instead. This would be terrible.

I want no part of that Patrick Williams contract.
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#26 » by Astaluego » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:47 pm

I think they should settle it between Denver and the Bulls. The Spurs aren't necessary. In my opinion, MPJ fits perfectly into the Bulls' game. MPJ/Holmes for P. Williams/J. Smith/Lonzo. The Bulls get the best player in the deal and a prospect at the start of his rookie contract, and Denver improves its depth, especially if Lonzo can stay moderately healthy.
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Post#27 » by BigGargamel » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:51 pm

Astaluego wrote:I think they should settle it between Denver and the Bulls. The Spurs aren't necessary. In my opinion, MPJ fits perfectly into the Bulls' game. MPJ/Holmes for P. Williams/J. Smith/Lonzo. The Bulls get the best player in the deal and a prospect at the start of his rookie contract, and Denver improves its depth, especially if Lonzo can stay moderately healthy.


Man, I really feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but I really want someone to explain how this makes Denver better. Trading a no doubt starter, who averages 20 ppg on good percentages and works well within the offense, for three strict, mediocre backups. Two guys who can't even shoot over 40%. They get no starters out of this. How does this possibly help Denver?

"Depth" doesn't matter if they get guys who aren't even going to play in the playoffs. And they have to give up Holmes? This does absolutely nothing for Denver.
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Post#28 » by Astaluego » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:14 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
Astaluego wrote:I think they should settle it between Denver and the Bulls. The Spurs aren't necessary. In my opinion, MPJ fits perfectly into the Bulls' game. MPJ/Holmes for P. Williams/J. Smith/Lonzo. The Bulls get the best player in the deal and a prospect at the start of his rookie contract, and Denver improves its depth, especially if Lonzo can stay moderately healthy.


Man, I really feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but I really want someone to explain how this makes Denver better. Trading a no doubt starter, who averages 20 ppg on good percentages and works well within the offense, for three strict, mediocre backups. Two guys who can't even shoot over 40%. They get no starters out of this. How does this possibly help Denver?

"Depth" doesn't matter if they get guys who aren't even going to play in the playoffs. And they have to give up Holmes? This does absolutely nothing for Denver.
I understand and you're probably right, but I doubt Denver will find better deals for MPJ making $40 million right now... they should keep him.
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Re: Denver - Chicago - SAS 

Post#29 » by One_and_Done » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:22 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
Astaluego wrote:I think they should settle it between Denver and the Bulls. The Spurs aren't necessary. In my opinion, MPJ fits perfectly into the Bulls' game. MPJ/Holmes for P. Williams/J. Smith/Lonzo. The Bulls get the best player in the deal and a prospect at the start of his rookie contract, and Denver improves its depth, especially if Lonzo can stay moderately healthy.


Man, I really feel like I'm beating a dead horse, but I really want someone to explain how this makes Denver better. Trading a no doubt starter, who averages 20 ppg on good percentages and works well within the offense, for three strict, mediocre backups. Two guys who can't even shoot over 40%. They get no starters out of this. How does this possibly help Denver?

"Depth" doesn't matter if they get guys who aren't even going to play in the playoffs. And they have to give up Holmes? This does absolutely nothing for Denver.

It doesn't make Denver better IMO. The logic for doing it is they're being cheap (again).
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