SlimShady83 wrote: "B4 we got Luka" we wanted both Sexton and/or Collins in a Kessler packaged deal, with Ainge wanting Multiple firsts for Kessler a deal never progressed sadly. Many talks at least from what I was reading online (google it lol) were being made between the two teams, a reason why so many rumors going around what not.
After Luka, most if not all Laker fans still wanted Collins and/or Kessler or both again, sadly nothing happend and now we got Ayton, I don't see us/Lakers making offers for Kessler, Fans Yes, Team No.
Doubt Lakers willing to trade it all for Kessler now, but who knows anything can happen, I don't see Ainge willing to pay Kesslers next contract and expect him to trade both Lauri/Kessler when the time comes to it, again just stuff i've been reading and watching on youtube lols.
A line up of; Kessler/Ayton/Bron/Reaves/Luka ... Would be interesting
Have Kessler down below, Ayton mid to high post and other 3 around the 3 point line
I expect Ainge will sign Kessler to a long term deal. They are probably off on value right now and Ainge is telling him to go prove himself for the first part of the season so they can see if he is worth paying 25 million that I assume Kessler camp is asking for over the 18-20 that the Jazz are probably offering right now. My numbers may be off a little, but that’s what I assume is roughly what is happening at the moment. Utah is in no rush to sign Kessler long term yet.
With the Jazz prioritizing cap space in 2026, they may hold off on an extension simply because his cap hold is relatively small next offseason.
That’s what I think the holdup is. With the trade exception they received and the cap space they have it’s in their best interest to wait until after the trade deadline to see if they can utilize both to their full potential and then sign Kessler. I assume they basically told Kessler if you want security and your extension now it’s X amount (say 17-20 million) and if you want a bigger deal (say 20-25 a year) you will have to wait. If Kessler is holding out for more Utah has no reason to sign him yet. Maybe he is traded with the exception to some other team and a bad contract for X amount of picks or whatever. Who knows what will happen, but it creates a ton more of flexibility to wait.
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:25 pm
by Inigo Montoya
Wouldn't it be better to reach a deal now when there aren't a lot of teams with cap space? Next offseason there will be plenty. Looks like some players could get lesser deals right now than what they could get a year from now. Imho $25M per season for Kessler is reasonable. If that's what he's looking for, I'd give it to him.
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:12 am
by Daddy 801
Inigo Montoya wrote:Wouldn't it be better to reach a deal now when there aren't a lot of teams with cap space? Next offseason there will be plenty. Looks like some players could get lesser deals right now than what they could get a year from now. Imho $25M per season for Kessler is reasonable. If that's what he's looking for, I'd give it to him.
I thought next season there wasn’t a lot of cap space but the season after there was a ton of cap space??
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 10:18 am
by Inigo Montoya
Daddy 801 wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Wouldn't it be better to reach a deal now when there aren't a lot of teams with cap space? Next offseason there will be plenty. Looks like some players could get lesser deals right now than what they could get a year from now. Imho $25M per season for Kessler is reasonable. If that's what he's looking for, I'd give it to him.
I thought next season there wasn’t a lot of cap space but the season after there was a ton of cap space??
I think this season (the one that just ended) there aren't a lot of teams with cap space but there will be more teams with cap space at the end of the coming season. I'll try looking it up later today.
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:30 pm
by Inigo Montoya
Here are two cool sites that show every team's cap situation in a quick and easy way. Looks like next season the cap situation for most teams will be tight as well, but we'll probably see some changes until then.
Inigo Montoya wrote:Wouldn't it be better to reach a deal now when there aren't a lot of teams with cap space? Next offseason there will be plenty. Looks like some players could get lesser deals right now than what they could get a year from now. Imho $25M per season for Kessler is reasonable. If that's what he's looking for, I'd give it to him.
I thought next season there wasn’t a lot of cap space but the season after there was a ton of cap space??
I think this season (the one that just ended) there aren't a lot of teams with cap space but there will be more teams with cap space at the end of the coming season. I'll try looking it up later today.
You could be right. I thought the reason deals like Kuminga, Giddy weren’t happening was because if they take the QO and are restricted free agents next season was there wasn’t a lot of money floating around after the end of the season. But it could there isn’t a lot of money floating around right now and more next season.
I mean in theory it should always/normally be the case there is always money coming off the books so two seasons away has more money. I just know either at the end of this upcoming season or the end of next season everyone is saying a very large amount of money is coming off a lot of teams books. If it is the end of this upcoming/current season I do see a lot of value of getting Kessler locked down long term. If the Jazz lost Kessler due to miss management I might just have to lose my shiz. We finally after a decade plus are tanking right. But we can’t let valuable pieces walk away in QO’s from other teams squeezing us out.
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:20 pm
by AingesBurner
Daddy 801 wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
Daddy 801 wrote:
I thought next season there wasn’t a lot of cap space but the season after there was a ton of cap space??
I think this season (the one that just ended) there aren't a lot of teams with cap space but there will be more teams with cap space at the end of the coming season. I'll try looking it up later today.
You could be right. I thought the reason deals like Kuminga, Giddy weren’t happening was because if they take the QO and are restricted free agents next season was there wasn’t a lot of money floating around after the end of the season. But it could there isn’t a lot of money floating around right now and more next season.
I mean in theory it should always/normally be the case there is always money coming off the books so two seasons away has more money. I just know either at the end of this upcoming season or the end of next season everyone is saying a very large amount of money is coming off a lot of teams books. If it is the end of this upcoming/current season I do see a lot of value of getting Kessler locked down long term. If the Jazz lost Kessler due to miss management I might just have to lose my shiz. We finally after a decade plus are tanking right. But we can’t let valuable pieces walk away in QO’s from other teams squeezing us out.
I think Utah is one of the few teams with cap next off-season. We can use said space then sign Kessler. If we sign him now then the cap disappears.
Re: The price for Walker Kessler is
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:52 pm
by Inigo Montoya
AingesBurner wrote:I think Utah is one of the few teams with cap next off-season. We can use said space then sign Kessler. If we sign him now then the cap disappears.
On the other hand, he might cost more next season, while right now players are getting squeezed because of the lack of cap space by most teams. Plus, next season, when he's a RFA, other teams could also use poison pills in their offers, which will screw the Jazz even further. Since the Jazz are never serious players in free agency for the top-tier players, I'd rather they lock down Kessler now and possibly get a discount, while also avoiding an outrageous offer and a poison pill a season later and risk not matching and losing him for nothing.
