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Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Anteto
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:55 am
by Rendei
Rubios wrote:DaVoiceMaster wrote:chilluminati wrote:
That's what I took from your opening statement, sorry it didn't translate the way you wanted it.
I took from the opening statement that with injuries to some of the major players on potential championship teams, now is the time for a team step up and try to capitalize on it.
That's what I tried to convey, yep. English is tricky to me (3rd language).
PS Don't you guys use "Anteto"? I know it's pretty lame when you can just call him "Giannis", but at least in Spain is the most common way of referring to him.
It's not lame. Becoming just your first name is one of the highest signs of respect in the NBA. Mike, Lebron, Shaq, Timmy, etc. You know who they are.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Anteto
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:34 pm
by vxmike
JayMKE wrote:Bucks are keeping Giannis. Nobody in the NBA could provide enough value and have any semblance of a roster left over. East is weak, Bucks can compete
Houston can do it.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:02 pm
by MartyConlonJr
Miami could probably give Milwaukee all of this:
C - Kel'el Ware
PF - Nikola Jovic
SF - Jaime Jaquez Jr / Andrew Wiggins
SG - Tyler Herro
PG - Kasparas Jakucionis / Terry Rozier
$102,275,423
Plus 2026 pick swap, 2029 pick unprotected, 2030 pick swap, 2031 pick unprotected (or something like that, we owe Charlotte a lotto protected 27 then 28 unprotected, so probably conditions stemming from that).
Remember Tyler Herro is a Milwaukee born player. Rozier is expiring fodder, teams will possibly offer youth and/or picks for Wiggins.
To take back Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner and Kyle Kuzma at $105,333,750
OR
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Bobby Portis and Kevin Porter Jr at $101,502,899
Would leave the Heat with:
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
And that is before you see that team probably still has the MLE (Bradley Beal) and vet min (Damian Lillard), both who had the Heat as their #1 destination when were on the block.
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Bradley Beal / Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Damian Lillard / Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:21 pm
by JayMKE
Keep dreaming guys, not even on 2K
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:27 pm
by JayMKE
MartyConlonJr wrote:Miami could probably give Milwaukee all of this:
C - Kel'el Ware
PF - Nikola Jovic
SF - Jaime Jaquez Jr / Andrew Wiggins
SG - Tyler Herro
PG - Kasparas Jakucionis / Terry Rozier
$102,275,423
Plus 2026 pick swap, 2029 pick unprotected, 2030 pick swap, 2031 pick unprotected (or something like that, we owe Charlotte a lotto protected 27 then 28 unprotected, so probably conditions stemming from that).
Remember Tyler Herro is a Milwaukee born player. Rozier is expiring fodder, teams will possibly offer youth and/or picks for Wiggins.
To take back Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner and Kyle Kuzma at $105,333,750
OR
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Bobby Portis and Kevin Porter Jr at $101,502,899
Would leave the Heat with:
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
And that is before you see that team probably still has the MLE (Bradley Beal) and vet min (Damian Lillard), both who had the Heat as their #1 destination when were on the block.
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Bradley Beal / Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Damian Lillard / Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
Why would the bucks trade Giannis for a giant pile of crap? You might think these are “nice” pieces but this isn’t building a championship team, it’s not even a playoff team. Miami doesn’t have the assets and the Bucks simply are not trading Giannis. Keep dreaming,
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:27 pm
by Bernman
I'm sure Giannis recruited Turner to Milwaukee, the Bucks signed him, and stretched Dame...for Giannis to not be on the roster on opening day.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:34 pm
by MartyConlonJr
JayMKE wrote:MartyConlonJr wrote:Miami could probably give Milwaukee all of this:
C - Kel'el Ware
PF - Nikola Jovic
SF - Jaime Jaquez Jr / Andrew Wiggins
SG - Tyler Herro
PG - Kasparas Jakucionis / Terry Rozier
$102,275,423
Plus 2026 pick swap, 2029 pick unprotected, 2030 pick swap, 2031 pick unprotected (or something like that, we owe Charlotte a lotto protected 27 then 28 unprotected, so probably conditions stemming from that).
Remember Tyler Herro is a Milwaukee born player. Rozier is expiring fodder, teams will possibly offer youth and/or picks for Wiggins.
To take back Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner and Kyle Kuzma at $105,333,750
OR
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Bobby Portis and Kevin Porter Jr at $101,502,899
Would leave the Heat with:
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
And that is before you see that team probably still has the MLE (Bradley Beal) and vet min (Damian Lillard), both who had the Heat as their #1 destination when were on the block.
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Bradley Beal / Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Damian Lillard / Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
Why would the bucks trade Giannis for a giant pile of crap? You might think these are “nice” pieces but this isn’t building a championship team, it’s not even a playoff team. Miami doesn’t have the assets and the Bucks simply are not trading Giannis. Keep dreaming,
Not sure why you chose that tone. Unnecessary. The criteria I was working with was:
1. Some team should 'go crazy'
2. No team could do that and be left with a semblance of a competitive team.
So I put together a package of pretty much every youthful prospect we have, 4 unprotected picks or swaps, and took all the 'win now' long term guys that they just got to try and appease Giannis to go with it so they would be left with a healthy cap position. Most of those picks come at a time where Giannis would be 35 or older, so a decent chance of Miami being finished their run and in the lotto.
Herro - 25 year old All Star, home town player
JJJ - Rookie deal 1st team All Rookie 1 season ago
Ware - 2nd year 2nd team All Rookie this year past.
Jakucionus - Rookie that slipped in the draft with many still thinking he should have been top 10
Jovic - only just 22 years old after 3 years with Heat, but is full of potential and gone through Heat's development programme.
Wiggins - Rumoured Lakers wanted him and Heat wanted Rui, Knecht and a 1st which was too steep, but he could likely be flipped for youth or a pick.
Rozier - desirable expiring. If you are Bucks, we've cleaned your salary cap and you can now afford to take on longer contracts for picks.
4 unprotected picks or swaps - 2029, 2030 and 2031 picks when Giannis is 25-37 years old.
You don't like it, ok cool. But it is an All Star from your home town, 4 good young players on rookie contracts and 3 unprotected picks of value.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Anteto
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:51 pm
by boomershadow
Onlytimewilltel wrote:chilluminati wrote:Looks like we've found next seasons narrative for a fake championship case. "25-26 ring doesn't count, entire league is injured, cheap win". We all love find ways to invalidate a winner, asterisks next to each championship!
And while I agree with your take on Giannis, I don't think there is a team out there that wouldn't have to completely dismantle their roster to acquire him. It's the catch 22 in trading for stars. Unless the team trading for him is extremely desperate to get off of some negative assets, fair superstar deals usually ravage the receiving roster for a season or two until they can completely re-tool the roster around them. Houston was the best place to make a fair deal and still end up successful fast, but they went for KD. Probably because he was cheaper and the deal wouldn't ruin the entire squad acquiring him.
It’s so strange man lol. Basically either all the championships have an asterisk, or none of them do. I prefer the no asterisk options, teams can only play who’s in front of them, regardless. And there are injuries every single year it is what it is.
The championships of teams I dont like have asterisks. The championships of teams i do like do not have them.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:51 pm
by TheNG
Anteto and Jokito could be a nice pairing.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:30 pm
by HMFFL
Rubios wrote:No one knows, but on paper next year's Finals should be "cheap".
Tatum, Tyrese, Lillard, Kyrie out; Curry, LeBron, KD fading into the sunset.
Wemby not there just yet.
So, unless all teams are assuming a OKC martial parade, the time is now.
26-27, I'm convinced Lakers will be very strong (Dodgers are a blueprint) and Boston will be back at it, too. Factor Cavs, Mavs, Indiana.
I'm talking about the kind of offer that would make Bucks FO call Giannis and say "look, this is the best for both".
Players like Giannis at a reasonable age don't grow on trees.
They will once they know Giannis wants to be traded.
It's not a reality yet and it possibly won't ever be.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Anteto
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:17 am
by Onlytimewilltel
boomershadow wrote:Onlytimewilltel wrote:chilluminati wrote:Looks like we've found next seasons narrative for a fake championship case. "25-26 ring doesn't count, entire league is injured, cheap win". We all love find ways to invalidate a winner, asterisks next to each championship!
And while I agree with your take on Giannis, I don't think there is a team out there that wouldn't have to completely dismantle their roster to acquire him. It's the catch 22 in trading for stars. Unless the team trading for him is extremely desperate to get off of some negative assets, fair superstar deals usually ravage the receiving roster for a season or two until they can completely re-tool the roster around them. Houston was the best place to make a fair deal and still end up successful fast, but they went for KD. Probably because he was cheaper and the deal wouldn't ruin the entire squad acquiring him.
It’s so strange man lol. Basically either all the championships have an asterisk, or none of them do. I prefer the no asterisk options, teams can only play who’s in front of them, regardless. And there are injuries every single year it is what it is.
The championships of teams I dont like have asterisks. The championships of teams i do like do not have them.
I mean, that’s pretty much how it goes lol
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:29 am
by Lalouie
i would be disappointed if giannis or any foreign superstar( i guess there's only two others) gave into the lebron/kd/harden/kawhi/ad/beal/pg ring chasing ways of doing things and demanded to be traded
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:35 am
by NZB2323
The issue is if a team goes crazy and trades a lot for Giannis then they’ll be in the same position as the Bucks and won’t have a good enough supporting cast to win a championship with him.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:44 am
by One Last Shot
Lalouie wrote:i would be disappointed if giannis or any foreign superstar( i guess there's only two others) gave into the lebron/kd/harden/kawhi/ad/beal/pg ring chasing ways of doing things and demanded to be traded
How many times did LeBron demanded a trade in 22 years?
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:54 am
by Lalouie
One Last Shot wrote:Lalouie wrote:i would be disappointed if giannis or any foreign superstar( i guess there's only two others) gave into the lebron/kd/harden/kawhi/ad/beal/pg ring chasing ways of doing things and demanded to be traded
How many times did LeBron demanded a trade in 22 years?
it doesn't matter HOW MANY, he got the ball rolling. all the others?,,,they're following what he started
what do you thing the landscape would be if there was NEVER the decision and lebron just stayed home
i mean, aside from the fact that he would have zero rings
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:25 am
by TheGOATRises007
MartyConlonJr wrote:Miami could probably give Milwaukee all of this:
C - Kel'el Ware
PF - Nikola Jovic
SF - Jaime Jaquez Jr / Andrew Wiggins
SG - Tyler Herro
PG - Kasparas Jakucionis / Terry Rozier
$102,275,423
Plus 2026 pick swap, 2029 pick unprotected, 2030 pick swap, 2031 pick unprotected (or something like that, we owe Charlotte a lotto protected 27 then 28 unprotected, so probably conditions stemming from that).
Remember Tyler Herro is a Milwaukee born player. Rozier is expiring fodder, teams will possibly offer youth and/or picks for Wiggins.
To take back Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner and Kyle Kuzma at $105,333,750
OR
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Bobby Portis and Kevin Porter Jr at $101,502,899
Would leave the Heat with:
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
And that is before you see that team probably still has the MLE (Bradley Beal) and vet min (Damian Lillard), both who had the Heat as their #1 destination when were on the block.
C - Myles Turner / Bobby Portis
PF - Bam Adebayo / Simone Fontecchio / Keshad Johnson
SF - Giannis Antetokounmpo / Haywood Highsmith
SG - Bradley Beal / Norman Powell / Pelle Larsson
PG - Damian Lillard / Davion Mitchell / Dru Smith
There's bias and then there's delusion.
Come on.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:52 am
by axeman23
Lalouie wrote:One Last Shot wrote:Lalouie wrote:i would be disappointed if giannis or any foreign superstar( i guess there's only two others) gave into the lebron/kd/harden/kawhi/ad/beal/pg ring chasing ways of doing things and demanded to be traded
How many times did LeBron demanded a trade in 22 years?
it doesn't matter HOW MANY, he got the ball rolling. all the others?,,,they're following what he started
what do you thing the landscape would be if there was NEVER the decision and lebron just stayed home
i mean, aside from the fact that he would have zero rings
You know, you COULD'VE just answered the question, but seeing as the answer is "zero times" it would've thrown out your whole argument before it started. After fulfilling his contract, Lebron was under no obligation to stay with a n absolutely poor front office/coaching staff. I mean, at least Lebron didn't... oooh, let's just say, pull a "Kobe" and tell the Cavs before a ball was bounced that he wouldn't play for them and give them exactly ONE team to negotiate with.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:21 am
by doogie_hauser
I get the impression the more people want/beg Giannis to move, the more likely he is going to stay at Milwaukee!
He is different type of personality, one that doesn't want to follow the narrative that ESPN and many other ring chasing fans want him to.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:23 am
by Black Jack
I think Magic moving one of their two all star talent level young wings and maybe some picks is fair value for Giannis. I'm sure some added pieces for salary matching.
Orlando is ready to win now and also Florida is tax free. A young star level player and picks lets Bucks rebuild properly.
Re: A team (don't know which one) needs to go crazy to get Giannis
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:30 am
by jokeboy86
"Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb"
That's what I think of with these Giannis threads(film buffs will get what I'm referring to.)